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William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story

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WhatAreThey · 24/04/2024 12:27

In the audio, the journo explains what happened when she referred to Kate as being thin.
William rang Tatler and The Daily Mail, arranged lunch with them and his staff to plant stories.
Camilla's niece who works at Tatler helped him twisted the true position to be favourable to William and Kate.

She says no British print media is allowed to say anything negative about Kate or William. The negative stories must be about Harry and Meghan.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5jImF0sAfp/?igsh=MzRraTBxZDViNGRt

This is democracy in 21st century Britain.

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Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 22:29

SuziQuinto · 24/04/2024 20:08

He also always bagsied the bigger bedroom.

I suspect none of the bedrooms were small!

Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 22:32

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar well done for disproving that silly nonsense!!!

I'm sick to death of not being able to have a sensible discussion without haters derailing it. It was good while it lasted!

AliceOlive · 24/04/2024 22:46

Do you think Meghan and Harry will receive warning before other info about the bullying allegations comes out in the news?

Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 22:50

AliceOlive · 24/04/2024 22:46

Do you think Meghan and Harry will receive warning before other info about the bullying allegations comes out in the news?

I'm sure they already know the contents of the report?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 24/04/2024 22:52

@Runnerinthenight It's incredible that people haven't discovered this invention called google! And also that republicans and sugars haven't figured out that being a working royal is a job, not a bloody celebrity role.

StormzyinaTCup · 24/04/2024 22:55

Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 22:50

I'm sure they already know the contents of the report?

I too am sure they both know the contents of the report.
Probably why they didn’t sue Tom Bower.

Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 22:56

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 24/04/2024 22:52

@Runnerinthenight It's incredible that people haven't discovered this invention called google! And also that republicans and sugars haven't figured out that being a working royal is a job, not a bloody celebrity role.

I actually despair of people!

I had a friend from years ago - still in touch but not as much as we once were. She said that social media dumbed down massively as it became more universally available. I think she was right!

AliceOlive · 24/04/2024 23:00

StormzyinaTCup · 24/04/2024 22:55

I too am sure they both know the contents of the report.
Probably why they didn’t sue Tom Bower.

Yes but I meant when the alleged victims begin to speak out. Some think Samantha Cohen’s comments were the beginning of the flood gates opening.

StormzyinaTCup · 24/04/2024 23:07

AliceOlive · 24/04/2024 23:00

Yes but I meant when the alleged victims begin to speak out. Some think Samantha Cohen’s comments were the beginning of the flood gates opening.

Yes, could well be.
Would be interesting to know, assuming Palace staff sign NDAs, if these NDAs had expiration dates.

Vespanest · 24/04/2024 23:10

I’m not sure they can speak out, tbh I wouldn’t. The abuse they would get would be off the charts. They and their families would be doxxed, it would need to be anonymous because of the abuse they would get, and then they wouldn’t be believed because of anonymity by those who’d do the doxxing. The abuse would be double if they are women.

Serenster · 24/04/2024 23:17

How are there never any photos of her looking a bit windy, a bit tired, a bit lazy, just normal?? No photos of her eating or drinking, no photos of her in a bikini on the beach etc.

Such a ridiculous statement…

William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
William Threatened Tatler and Camilla's niece help plant story
Runnerinthenight · 24/04/2024 23:35

AliceOlive · 24/04/2024 23:00

Yes but I meant when the alleged victims begin to speak out. Some think Samantha Cohen’s comments were the beginning of the flood gates opening.

I do hope so!

JanglingJack · 24/04/2024 23:47

I heard that William bullied someone once in Waitrose in to buying lemon curd. Or something.

Apparently he was raging and his eye was twitching. He frightened the shopper so much that she dropped her curd and got some berry jam instead.

William walked off and kicked a box of Weetabix.

That's what I heard.

AliceOlive · 25/04/2024 00:24

StormzyinaTCup · 24/04/2024 23:07

Yes, could well be.
Would be interesting to know, assuming Palace staff sign NDAs, if these NDAs had expiration dates.

I was wondering that, too. It does seem that they wouldn’t be precluded from giving a few positive comments, though.

Thedom · 25/04/2024 01:05

JanglingJack · 24/04/2024 23:47

I heard that William bullied someone once in Waitrose in to buying lemon curd. Or something.

Apparently he was raging and his eye was twitching. He frightened the shopper so much that she dropped her curd and got some berry jam instead.

William walked off and kicked a box of Weetabix.

That's what I heard.

😂😂

Mummyoflittledragon · 25/04/2024 03:53

JanglingJack · 24/04/2024 23:47

I heard that William bullied someone once in Waitrose in to buying lemon curd. Or something.

Apparently he was raging and his eye was twitching. He frightened the shopper so much that she dropped her curd and got some berry jam instead.

William walked off and kicked a box of Weetabix.

That's what I heard.

😂😂 It’s on that level, isn’t it?!

pilates · 25/04/2024 06:52
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Sums it up for me

OneHeartySnail · 25/04/2024 08:02

JanglingJack · 24/04/2024 23:47

I heard that William bullied someone once in Waitrose in to buying lemon curd. Or something.

Apparently he was raging and his eye was twitching. He frightened the shopper so much that she dropped her curd and got some berry jam instead.

William walked off and kicked a box of Weetabix.

That's what I heard.

You've got it all wrong.

What really happened was that he was trying to gather up armfuls of Duchy Originals and screaming 'they're mine! ALL MINE' and laughing in an evil way...

I know someone whose sister in law's uncle was there, but he works for the British Meeja and KP kidnapped his pet gerbil to stop the story from being published.

Begsthequestion · 25/04/2024 09:46

myrtleWilson · 24/04/2024 18:28

I think it was Serenster on another thread that debunked this little conspiracy theory @Begsthequestion. The Mirror story referenced a DM story which was about Harry but for reasons unknown in the Mirror it was erroneously transposed to Kate. You can see other references to the same source which all refer to Harry
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/prince-william-harry-mood-swings-diana-charles/
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1860158/prince-harry-mood-swings

Thanks for responding. I still want to know HOW that happened. If you think about the journalistic process, it's impossible for this to have happened accidently.

Serenster · 25/04/2024 11:53

You’ve never seen a sub-editor mistake before? They happen all the time. Particularly on online news sites as there is such a rush to get the content out first to get the clicks.

This is an older blog entry collating some good ones, but it’s still amusing 🤣

https://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2010/12/23/journalisms-own-goals-and-gaffes-2010/

Journalism’s own goals and gaffes 2010

Making light of others’ mistakes is fraught with danger, and will often come back to haunt you when you make your own. But that doesn’t stop us or anybody else, it seems. Schadenfreude …

https://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2010/12/23/journalisms-own-goals-and-gaffes-2010/

Begsthequestion · 25/04/2024 12:02

Serenster · 25/04/2024 11:53

You’ve never seen a sub-editor mistake before? They happen all the time. Particularly on online news sites as there is such a rush to get the content out first to get the clicks.

This is an older blog entry collating some good ones, but it’s still amusing 🤣

https://blogs.journalism.co.uk/2010/12/23/journalisms-own-goals-and-gaffes-2010/

I've never heard of a sub editor or any journalist publishing an entire article about the wrong person, including quotes and photos, no.

The very first thing they teach you in journalism school is to get the names right.

If you don't, the legal and professional repercussions can be extremely serious.

wordler · 25/04/2024 17:46

Begsthequestion · 25/04/2024 12:02

I've never heard of a sub editor or any journalist publishing an entire article about the wrong person, including quotes and photos, no.

The very first thing they teach you in journalism school is to get the names right.

If you don't, the legal and professional repercussions can be extremely serious.

The problem comes from the constant regurgitation of older news articles and people cutting and pasting from old articles and sometimes forgetting to change something or making a mistake about what they are cutting and pasting. And other publications cutting and pasting bits from other publications.

So for this story - it's all based on quotes from a royal reporter Robert Jobson who had written a book about Diana, and more recently a book about William turning 40.

In promoting the most recent book he did an article talking about William's tendency to have a short fuse like Diana.

He used the phrase: She (Diana) could be your best friend one minute and the next your worst enemy.

The first article he was mainly talking about William and also mentioning that he'd heard from a courtier that Kate could give as good as she got when it came to arguments but in general she was the calming influence.

So then in a different article later Robert Jobson is asked to comment on Harry and William's moods. He just regurgitates his quote about Diana 'best friend one minute and the next your worst enemy.' and now applies it to Harry as well as William.

Both these different articles are clipped and republished by lots of different publications after the initial articles were published in the DM.

What probably happened at the Mirror is that whoever was tasked with repurposing the second Mail article about Harry's moods, had been using multiple archive articles to copy and paste different Jobson quotes and had got confused someone about all the different people accused of being hot tempered, or argumentative, mixed up a few pronouns - passed to a subeditor - who thought the article was supposed to be about Kate and did a quick edit, published it to the online paper, the writer spots it realises the mix up and corrects it.

It's surprisingly easy to make these kind of mistakes when working under pressure - your editor gives you 20 minutes to bang out a quick rehash of an old story with a new headline to make it seem new, or have noticed that an article in another publication is doing well in the search engines and asks you to take a chunk of it to get some clicks too. You pass to the subeditor who has less than ten minutes to give to each article to get through his/her workload. You might even have a third person tasked to pop in and stick some fresh photos and captions in this old article - who haven't read the article properly etc.

These things are nearly always human error - people working fast and banging out pieces to meet quotas etc.

wordler · 25/04/2024 17:53

The team I worked with we had to make it a rule not to write 'holding' captions like "blah blah blah write something funny here" under photos, thinking you'd come back and do that bit later, only to forget or get your piece handed to someone else to finish and they didn't notice and published it like that.

Or worse put something really rude and funny in there to make your subeditor laugh and they didn't notice and published it anyway.

We also had a period of time where we were training people on the software system and were using the live system to train and not a dummy system and had some mortifying moments where someone in the training room trying out the new software made up a funny story about someone famous dying, or doing something illegal and added a ridiculous photo to it and it got published. It was only minutes before someone caught it but it was out there.

Every now and then when I see a tweet or an online mistake by a news organisation claiming someone has died when they are very much alive, I just know it was someone testing a system and not realising it was already live.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 25/04/2024 17:54

Fascinating insight, @wordler , thank you.

LiterallyOnFire · 25/04/2024 18:04

AutumnCrow · 24/04/2024 12:33

Yeah that William, he threatened me yesterday in Waitrose next the Duchy jam. Said I had to buy the strawberry but I wanted the raspberry and next thing I know he was raging and saying ‘BUY THE FUCKING STRAWBERRY YOU SODDING PLEB’ and that’s a true story.

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😂😂 I have no idea what's going on but that's hurt my diaphragm laughing,