american riviera orchard - what was that all about then?

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It seems to have gone the same way as their Sussex Royal site. I don't know much about social media or PR, but this all seems pretty odd and ineffectual.

Imagine writing that about yourself yet not feeling deep shame. It’s just mind boggling .

Also, on keeping the investigation report confidential, this is completely normal. ACAS’s guidelines on this are in the screenshot below.

Given that Buckingham Palace were rightly being criticised for not having appropriate processes to protect their staff from bullying, it was clearly in the public interest for them to announce that they had instructed an independent third party to undertake an investigation. At the end of the process they then announced that recommendations had been made and acted on. Despite the public being greatly interested in the content for he report, that however contained individual’s private information, that rightly stays private.

Harry did get to claim in his book that his wife was unfairly depicted as a bully, and that they exposed the 'lie' with a 25 page rebuttal.

The employees, who were silenced because of NDA's , never got to contest Harry accusing them of lying about being bullied. It must be a bitter pill to have to swallow.

There's a difference between privacy and secrecy.

Harry & Meghan have invaded their own and others' privacy willy nilly. Almost all other members of the RF have respected their own and others' privacy - what do we really know about any of them, after all? They mostly don't say anything (Fergie and Andrew aside, and even then they've only ever spilled about themselves). Harry, especially, has been very open about some very intimate aspects of his inner life.

What Meghan & Harry go on about is "secrecy", which is different. It's selective. Privacy is generalised: my private life, my family life, my home life, my thoughts and opinions, even (for the RF) my personality. Secrecy is about specific things/events. Generally, the secrets H&M have made public have (1) been a retort about alleged accusations or perceived slights, like children having to have the last word (2) almost always reflect poorly on them (3) really should have been kept private for their children's sake because the internet is forever (4) are motivated by a desire to both make money out of publicizing them AND to raise their profiles.

The bullying investigation and report must be kept private. It's about many people's professional lives, and probably their emotional state at a given point. The victims are entitled to keep their secrets about how they were impacted (if they were), and the perpetrators don't need to be paraded through the village square by way of punishment. Banishment from the employer is the enough, and that's what's happened.

And this is the same women who requires not just her staff, but also members of the public with whom she interacts to sign NDAs agreeing that they won’t say anything negative about her (or anything at all without it being approved)…

I find that extremely shocking @Serenster

A fairly accurate description @Chupacabara .

Indeed. Prince Harry is the Prince Andrew de nos jours.

Two men who can't understand that it's not them that makes them speshul, it's their family. Two men who were indulged by the late Queen, until even she had enough and stripped them of everything except their titles.

because if she'd been exonerated don't you think that she and Harry would've been singing that from the rooftops and using the bullying claims as evidence that they themselves had been bullied?

Yes I’ve said as much in my posts.

What I can't get my head around is the level of arrogance and entitlement from someone literally in the RF for 5 minutes?! When you start any new job, you'd keep your head down for a bit, see the lie of the land, and try to prove yourself, not throw your weight around from Day 1? I just don't know who she thinks she is!

I think a lot of it was sheer stupidity with Harry . Not understanding the impacts of his actions, doing as he pleases, saying what comes into his mind, with no filter, a feeling of entitlement, thinking he was funny sometimes, resenting any over sight.

Yup @JJathome, he's literally Prince Andrew. The spare who thinks he's special, and has never been told otherwise.

I think it's clear that Meghan is an incredibly confident woman who came in thinking she would show the royal family how it was all done . She definitely struggled with the protocol element ( ie not keeping gifts) walking a step behind Harry etc and two steps behind William and Kate
She came from a world where even as a not super actress, ringing and shouting at interns was very much the norm especially under the guise of being a perfectionist and expecting perfection from everyone around her when ever she wanted.
Ultimately she was just simply very very unsuited for a role in the royal family where you stay out of politics and anything controversial and do a lot of smiling and ribbon cutting .

Harry then simply adores her so much and can't believe his luck that she marriee him so much so that she can a) convince him of anything and b) wants her to have what ever she wants always - hence the tiara conversation.

They might do ok in the US when the dust settles a bit more .

She came from a world where even as a not super actress, ringing and shouting at interns was very much the norm especially under the guise of being a perfectionist

I disagree.

The peak of Meghan's acting career was in an ensemble cast in a cable TV series filmed in Toronto for budget reasons. We're not talking Charlize Theron or Margot Robbie here. And even if we were, screaming at the 'underlings' would not be considered acceptable these days. For a minor actress like Meghan, it could well have led to her being written out of the series. She was just one person among many in what was likely a fairly mundane working environment. The 'interns' worked for the production studio. Not for her.

They might do ok in the US when the dust settles a bit more .

Doing what though? Their only real selling point is the royal connection, but that has become considerably devalued. They are also middle aged, lazy, difficult to work for and with no obvious talents. What do they have to offer to public life?

Meghan’s friend Ellen DeGeneras was accused of bullying in the workplace, birds of a feather as they say.

Who keeps reporting posts? Is that you Bouzy?

He didn’t behave or look like a 35 year old. He was old before his time.

Yes.

Bullying in the workplace is no longer acceptable, even if you're an A lister. Of course it still does happen, but it's not the norm. And anyway, Meghan would not have had 'staff.' She was just another employee.