Harrys name appears in P Diddy court docs? Why?

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I’m seeing this on TwitX this morning.

Prince Harry’s name appears in PDiddys court docs, in relation to his ‘sex trafficking parties’.

From how I’m reading it, it doesn’t appear to actually say Harry attended, but why would his actual name appear? He seems to be the only example mentioned by name?

I’m assuming this court doc is real, I’m very confused by this?

When inheritance for H and W is mentioned I always wonder if the QM left as much to her other GGC. I've only ever heard of it in relation to H and W.

I agree that Harry’s probably not done anything wrong but serves as a convenient face to protect bigger fish who will know Diddy’s secrets and have the influence to go after him in prison.
Totally agree that the Epstein-Andrew situation is probably the inspiration (with the obvious difference that Andrew is guilt of wrongdoing)

The photos doing the rounds are of the concert for Diana after party. PH presumably had further meets with Combs following this. That was when he did have Royal protection so what were the powers that be thinking when they okayed these engagements, they must have realised what went on. Wonder why nobody else is mentioned.

IPP status (which Harry is fighting for) comes with diplomatic immunity right? Would having that have kept his name hidden?

Well if you happened to attend a party and then be named in an official court document (the ONLY person named) related to sex trafficking that you likely had no involvement in, I'm sure you'd think it was pretty awful too. Try putting yourself in the shoes of others. They've added his name purely for attention...ridiculous

They've added his name purely for attention...

Who put the document together? Who do they work for? Who and what influences them?

This won’t be doing Harry’s visa status any favours.

Personally, I’d like to know the names of the political figures, and if they tally with those who knew Epstein.

Prince Andrew acted as quite a good lightening rod for all other Epstein high profile associates as the press basically focused on him and everyone else got a free pass so maybe idea is to try same tactic here by naming Harry ( who is not involved at all but just a handy name to keep others out of the news)

@Valhalla17 it's not possible to know what his involvement was but can't imagine Royal protection officers would let him far out of sight. Can't help thinking he must regret his naivety in walking away from the RF and he can never get it back now.

I imagine he must be furious about this, why name him and not anyone else. I mean if it said, 'including politicians such as Barack Obama' - everyone would be WTF, why name him?

I can't believe he is named purely because of the Diana concert after party. So many celebrities and foreign signatories would have been there. And that was clearly nothing to do with 'sex trafficking parties'

He must have his lawyers all over this and I would expect a statement distancing him from this US time today. He has to get in front of this otherwise he risks being associated with this in the same way Andrew is associated with Epstein.

I for one would be utterly shocked if there is anything nefarious here, I just can't see it.

I would also be suspicious that he is named quite spuriously to attract attention to it- the Prince Andrew association garnered the Epstein matter huge attention. He has not been accused of anything at all. Unlike Andrew though Harry is extremely litigious so I can't see him sitting back and taking this.

I think this is awful btw, so have some sympathy but…

what I really came here to say, which I have always thought, which is that the yearly running costs of M&H’s life are probably astronomical (even to live in the gated community that they do) plus travel costs, moving costs, and the one thing I would say about most royals although some are frugal enough (hi Anne!) is that it must be almost impossible for them to imagine what things cost in the real world.

The royal life operates in such a way that anybody would be so, so insulated from the reality of paying for the equivalent. Like, a good private secretary, legal costs, wardrobe costs (I hope Meghan at least gets lots for free, she’s an amazing clothes horse so I expect she does). Never having traveled anything but first class or received anything but the most impeccable service and prioritising. You’d need to be a billionaire in private life to get the same amount of ‘fixing’ as the royals.

There’s quite an interesting book that talks about e.g. royal visits and how staff turn up beforehand and make sure it’s all organised to be mega smooth and to the hrh visitor’s liking. Imagine how if that was the same all your life you would think that was ‘reality’.

I don't think Harry did anything wrong. Back in the day, he always mingled with celebrities. I'm sure he still has a lot of celebrity friends.

This is another reminder to never get too close to these mega rich celebrities. Look what happened to Andrew

There are so many evil people in Hollyweird. Most are probably putting on a facade but are doing some of the most evil things behind the scenes (Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein,...). I'm not surprised about Diddy at all. There's been rumours about him since the late 90s, I wasn't even born yet.
In the 2000s, we've heard of him being violent, aggressive towards women, scamming, stealing his artists' money. He apparently broke his ex's nose when she moved on and dated another man. Karma really has no expiration date

As Tupac once said, "you can fake for a long time but one day you gonna reveal yourself to be a phony”

It's also interesting to see who, in the media and social media, is talking about this.
Rebecca English, Chris Ship, Omid Scobie and all the Harry fans who have been posting 10-20 tweets about Kate daily seem to be off duty today

No smoke with out fire Harry, party boy about to be exposed me thinks.

Maybe he's similar to Phillip? Hangs in the wrong kind of circles?

I do wonder if Harry, like Andrew, is a multi-millionaire mixing with multi-billionaires who feels somewhat demeaned by the gulf in wealth between them when he, as blood royalty, has the (on paper and in his mind) higher status.

It’s a dynamic that sets venal men up to be vulnerable to nefarious influences.

Apparently even Tony Blair - who was/is intelligent - used to feel pangs of envy meeting the super-rich. World leaders don’t get paid vast sums either, unless they’re corrupt (or corrupted). Men who feel thwarted make poor decisions.

Yes, I thought it was weird that they mentioned Harry when photos exist of a much higher profile figure

Is that picture from a yacht?

I would imagine it wouldn’t just be party boy.

Well her certainly used to like getting off his head on drugs and going to ~Las Vegas chasing girls round the room naked, certainly took a lot of the Palaces time to try to cover up and block, who knows what else he did. 🤔

Any hoo I think Kelly sums him up nicely here...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1772240735288361198 (Profanity warning on swearing). 😂

Andrew Lloyd-Webber in the background! But yes, there would've been close protection officers mingling there.

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Yes, I thought it was weird that they mentioned Harry when photos exist of a much higher profile figure

Quite. In fact, we've already seen William in the original photo on this thread. Several PPs mentioned it.

But, as you say, much higher profile.
As I would say, also much higher status, better protected and with less of a connection to US celebs & no published history of drug taking which all might make a difference in choosing who to mention in the documents to, presumably, gain publicity 🤷‍♀️

The document is a complaint filed in the US Federal Court Southern District. The entire 73 pages are available online. As the case proceeds, more information will be provided.

Perhaps they stated access to Prince Harry rather than Prince William because Harry spent more time with them based on the testimony of the filer.

I am not a legal expert but I believe what protects people from US law is diplomatic immunity rather than IPP. We've had a lot of issues with embassies running up parking fines, etc. in New York and not paying them. We aren't providing all embassy employees with security.

I was under the impression this was not a historic case, but the last few years, im going to have to have a look at the court paper

They were his protection officers, not his nannies - he recounts in Spare how he physically attacked one for taking him home at the end of a heavy night out. They didn’t stop him getting involved in the drinking games in Las Vegas, taking a woman behind a pub for a quick shag in a field or travelling through the Alma tunnel in Paris at high speed - Harry made his own decisions (he told us these ones himself).