The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

What public though? It's not been a topic of conversation amongst anyone I know.

Well Republicans don't want to behead them, they want them to go away and live a private life, and for them to be replaced by someone who has chosen to be there. Its Royalists who insist on keeping these people in captivity like pets. It would be far better for them and William and Kates children if they lived a normal privileged life and had autonomy to choose their own career.

You know what, someone on here in another thread about something or other political or social said that what the UK needs is a revolution. And what I immediately always think of is France, where they did that - completely and violently overthrew long standing institutions, only to end up a few decades later with what they'd got rid of in the first place, only with hundreds of thousands if not millions of people dead. And then had a couple of revolutions to get rid of those.

To the people who don't like Britain and its institutions it's taking a few bricks out of the wall. It doesn't collapse immediately, but it weakens it. And a lot of people on here, knowingly or not, took part in that.

No the don't get it, it was exactly the same with Brexit.

That was me, asking who 'they' are. This mysterious 'they' who always work in the shadows. I think it's pretty obvious why the PR went a bit kattywampus - they were both blindsided by what was happening, both with HM< Kate and the SM reactions. In the end I assume it would be very difficult for the PR to overrule the Wales's and say 'that's really not a good idea' if they really wanted something put out.

Then I wish they'd have a proper intelligent debate about it instead of just being vile about the personnel.

I found it incredibly uncomfortable to see others speculating, it was clear there was a medical issue, and that had been explained, the time taken for the Princess to recover was obviously concerning and I'll never understand how anyone could speculate during such a time.

The media isn't an excuse. Now is a good time for anyone who did post, joke, speculate, or spread cruel rumours to look at what that's says about their own character. I think many people have a lot of work to do on themselves, and this is another clear example of the type of people we're unfortunately surrounded with in society.

I hope those who contributed feel awful because they are.

Its Royalists who insist on keeping these people in captivity like pets. It would be far better for them and William and Kates children if they lived a normal privileged life and had autonomy to choose their own career

Something that the late queen acknowledged when she said 'If they want us to go, we'll go quietly.' And as it appears the consensus is that people in this country want a RF, that's what we'll continue to have.

You want a debate about republicanism vs monarchy? then have a debate. It isn't quite as simple as them retiring to a normal privileged life, whatever that is.

That was such a facinating show, really changed my outlook on certain things that have happened since like Covid etc

Hi @MrsDanversGlidesAgain I wasn't having a go at you in that post, sorry if I gave that impression. Sick of the "KP comms fail" talk that allows those who were vile about W&K to deflect blame for their own shitty posts onto some mysterious other, as you say.

I don't really understand what's happened here.

I'm not a Royalist at all. However the public were told that Kate Middleton was having surgery and would be back after Easter.

There really was nothing more to say about it. What you say in your own home is one thing, but speculating publicly about someone who we knew was/is unwell is poor judgement.

Besides, it wasn't beyond imagination that the woman would want to recover from an operation in private. It wouldn't have been the same happy occasion as when the children were born.

I can't understand what all the fuss was about and know everyone knows she's got cancer.

That's not accurate though is it? Because what actually happened is that people at her clinic accessed her medical records illegally and KP probably thought it would be a matter of time before it got out.

Try asking them what they are actually doing about it. Nothing apart from moaning, it seems.

Well if we're talking about Brexit, The Queen could do absolutely nothing to stop Boris Johnsons government behaving illegally. She had to do what she was told. It was the courts who put a stop to it. We should have a head of state that can hold the government to account. A hereditary monarchy just can't do that. Our institutions were made for a time when a tiny group of men were in charge of a monocultural society. They are crumbling to pieces already. Partly because they are not fit for the 21st century. George will be stuck trying to hold something together that was outdated when his gŕeat grandmother was alive.

Yet weirdly, most of them love Harry and Meghan - a very royal couple!

Thank you. I’ve been wondering what I missed!

Really simple experiment. Go to a crowded place and look up as if you're looking for something in the sky. See how many people do the same.

There was another experiment where a couple of people in a crowd started running. It took a few seconds and lots of other people started as well. They had no idea WHY they were running, but someone was so they assumed there was a reason for it and joined in.

Or - take the panic buying four years ago and how that took hold. There's a lot of online explanation about that and how people behave in crowds.

Of course you can't discount that a lot of the people posting here and elsewhere on SM have the moral outlook of dung beetles; find a ball of shit and trundle it around making it into a bigger ball of shit.

The many posts on here speculating about the health of the Princess, her marriage, her children, sharing baseless rumours, making cruel comments, it’s been a complete and utter disgrace.

The fact they’ve been left to stand meanwhile entire threads about another female with a title are deleted without hesitation. It just goes to show it has nothing to do with the actual content of those threads. It’s shameful.

I can well believe it.
Brown is excellent at exposing stuff like this.
His programme about a Seance was fascinating, as well as astrology and spiritualism.

Humans are vulnerable to outside influences

Christopher Jefferies was a prime example .

Made a scapegoat by press and I’m ashamed to say I too thought hecwas guilty as he has a key to Murdered Jo Yeats’s flat.

I was shocked at how influenced I’d been subliminally by media headlines.

And don’t even mention cheese.

Yeah, what happened there?

Most people agree with you. Apart from the Sussex squad, Russian bots and a few jumpers on bandwagoners with little judgement and less scruple.

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain Wouldn't we like to know!

But this really isn't quite true. All the speculation was there before the picture. That's why the picture was released. It was ill judged I grant you but given the circumstances I think we can see why. Maybe desperation to keep up appearances as normal and stop the speculation simply for the sake of her children? Who knows. I doubt that she and those around her were really in a fit state of mind.
Whatever, I keep reading that it's all the fault of that picture and really that's not the case. I read so much speculation on here and on the Internet before that. The public should be ashamed sadly. And most definitely the media.