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CurlewKate · 23/03/2024 08:42

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 23/03/2024 09:45

CurlewKate · 23/03/2024 08:42

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

Many of us managed to use our critical thinking skills, funnily enough. But were being told again and again that we were the ones being manipulated, while the SM keyboard warriors were all so very wised up.

Thanks for acknowledging that some people are genuinely upset though.

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 09:46

I generally don’t think it’s wrong to wonder what’s going on. I agree that some of the threads got particularly nasty (and that’s not on). The behaviour from the RF was very unusual so it would have been weirder NOT to speculate as a lot of us were genuinely concerned about her. So I don’t feel bad for wondering! But I feel bad for posting some of the ridiculous things that I’d heard. I do feel bad about nasty comments and the fact they felt hounded. And I feel bad that we all wondered about the silly stuff when it was in fact cancer.

The best thing to do is let it go now, accept the news and stop constantly going on and on about that bloody farm shop photo.

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 09:51

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 08:59

Thanks mum.

I think it’s horrible that KP released a totally composite picture of her family and lied. They should not have done that. Stick to the story. Be back at Easter.
All of this could have been avoided if the pictures had never been released.

Heads should roll at KP for not being able to hold the line.

Twitter will alway twit and SM will feed off any scraps out there. But KP have done HRH Kate dirty. Not the public.

They are human you know and were trying to do something that would give her some respite from the public. Obviously it didn’t work.

FrownedUpon · 23/03/2024 09:52

it’s disgusting that people have treated her situation as a soap opera, with spiteful accusations. You should be ashamed. I’d be embarrassed if I was you or your parents. How were you brought up to think that was ok?

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 09:53

I dont think it was just the media though. Remember that official sources wouldn’t post anything - there was a media blackout. Basically you can’t win.

I think this shows how the RF can’t be like normal people and they can’t even be like celebrities who do take breaks. It should demonstrate to everyone including those who don’t want a RF (myself included) how hard their lives actually are.

Kinneddar · 23/03/2024 09:59

The only reason last night's announcement was made is because it was about to come out anyway, her records had been breached. Otherwise they would have continued merrily with the deceit and fake pictures indefinitely. On the relationships board they call this kind of thing gaslighting

Was there an actual breach?? It said staff had attempted to access not that they had

i think the timing is more likely because we're now pretty much at Easter & clearly shes not going to be undertaking any duties as planned. Folk would have gone into meltdown if we'd reached Easter with no explanation

I dont think it's gaslighting at all. Between the predicted time line approaching & the children stopping for Easter holidays, announcing it now makes most sense

Regardless how about folk now just give her the privacy she's asked for just now

Chickpea17 · 23/03/2024 10:06

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/03/2024 09:33

Sorry but I disagree with you. I think that people who speculated ought to feel ashamed of themselves and learn from it.
It’s not about you, it’s about an unwell mum and her privacy who has been forced to speak publicly by a mob.

This with bells 🔔 on!!!

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:07

The picture will never be confirmed as a total fake. It’s the RF! But in this modern age you can’t have it all which ways, they took a family snap (they didn’t) we won’t come out till Easter (let’s go to the farm shop and bow to pressure).

the PR machine is fucked and it’s them who helped feed press/media. The media was baying for more info. What do they expect it is the RF???

As soon as the wheels started to fall off they should have released a statement. It’s such poor management. She is the future queen. It is completely untenable for KP to try and fob people off with shite. They should never have done that.

And please be kind they are people. Yes of course will and Kate deserve that and their children. I personally have not said anything derogatory about any of them. The “firm” and the pr machine- oh yes. Absolutely. I am so angry they got it so wrong for them. It’s scandalous.

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:10

FrownedUpon · 23/03/2024 09:52

it’s disgusting that people have treated her situation as a soap opera, with spiteful accusations. You should be ashamed. I’d be embarrassed if I was you or your parents. How were you brought up to think that was ok?

Who are you referring to please?

crumblingschools · 23/03/2024 10:11

How could KP give updates, once cancer had been diagnosed? If they wanted to keep that news private whilst Katherine and William coped with the news and then told the children. KP would have had to lie, the updates would have been meaningless. They were in an awful position.

When anyone has been in the position of a cancer diagnosis, telling the news is one of the hard things you have to navigate and I’m sure most people wouldn’t want someone spreading the news all over their social media.

Royal they maybe but they are young and they have young children, who they want to protect. William lost his mum when he was young, his dad is undergoing cancer treatment and now his wife has cancer, after having major surgery. And all whilst this has been going on ghouls have been speculating they are getting divorced, he beats Kate up or he has fathered DC with another woman. How utterly despicable some people are.

And many people have said well there was obviously something going on due to radio silence and a slightly dodgy photoshopped picture. Well let’s face it, if something was going on after major surgery it was more than likely something medical so why not leave them in peace until they were ready to share the news and not spend hours trying to think up malicious gossip

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:12

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 09:51

They are human you know and were trying to do something that would give her some respite from the public. Obviously it didn’t work.

When has it ever?

I think it’s really crap to treat the public in this way. It’s pretty clear the RF does not have the respect it thinks or deserves. They lost ALL credibility for me when Andrew was brought back into the fold.

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:15

Yeah I agree those saying about rose h or eating disorders were awful. Almost wanting it to be true. That was disgusting.

crumblingschools · 23/03/2024 10:16

@Catsfrontbum what would have satisfied you, what did you want over the last few weeks?

pickledandpuzzled · 23/03/2024 10:16

Shame up to a point is good. It’s how we learn how to behave.

Some people are desperately refusing to accept any shame and are blaming it on bad PR, deceptive palace communications, anything except accepting responsibility for their own somewhat shoddy behaviour.

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 10:20

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:12

When has it ever?

I think it’s really crap to treat the public in this way. It’s pretty clear the RF does not have the respect it thinks or deserves. They lost ALL credibility for me when Andrew was brought back into the fold.

Well yes, that’s disgusting.

I still think people like Kate and Wills are trapped. Anyway even if they aren’t normally, they are in this situation. I’m just thinking of Kate as a mum. My worst nightmare.

Newsenmum · 23/03/2024 10:21

pickledandpuzzled · 23/03/2024 10:16

Shame up to a point is good. It’s how we learn how to behave.

Some people are desperately refusing to accept any shame and are blaming it on bad PR, deceptive palace communications, anything except accepting responsibility for their own somewhat shoddy behaviour.

Yeah that’s not on. It was definitely us plebs! 😂

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:22

I would have expected the palace to release an interim statement saying-

HRH Kate is recovering from her planned surgery and thanks everyone for their words of kindness and cards. She is at home with the children and her husband.
Then a panning shot of all them cards and so on. A royal correspondent saying he’s chatted to them and she’s doing well.
something like that. Holding statements can be drafted.

anyway there are a lot of heated feelings on here.

I don’t feel ashamed. I never said any of the horrible stuff about her health or her husbands alleged behaviour. I didn’t speculate on the why, i don’t care.

I still stand by the pr machine treating us like plebs and not controlling the story. I feel
sorey for Kate and will they have been so badly let down.

pickledandpuzzled · 23/03/2024 10:24

NotQuiteNorma · 23/03/2024 09:44

And who caused all that speculation by treating the public like fools, not being honest and issuing fake pictures? That wasn't the public. The problem is now that we know the lengths they will go to lie about something this huge, what else can we not trust the monarchy to be truthful about? Only a few weeks ago the palace said they would only be issuing significant updates about Catherine. The princess of Wales having cancer wasn't significant then? That's ok then. The only reason last night's announcement was made is because it was about to come out anyway, her records had been breached. Otherwise they would have continued merrily with the deceit and fake pictures indefinitely. On the relationships board they call this kind of thing gaslighting....

Eleven days. They found out eleven days ago. Do you seriously begrudge 11 days to line up a strategy, decide who to tell when, and how to manage the children?

Wow.

SabreIsMyFave · 23/03/2024 10:24

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 08:59

Thanks mum.

I think it’s horrible that KP released a totally composite picture of her family and lied. They should not have done that. Stick to the story. Be back at Easter.
All of this could have been avoided if the pictures had never been released.

Heads should roll at KP for not being able to hold the line.

Twitter will alway twit and SM will feed off any scraps out there. But KP have done HRH Kate dirty. Not the public.

What a vile post.

Daz57 · 23/03/2024 10:26

Usernamewassavedsuccessfully · 23/03/2024 08:50

And you would expect adults to know these things (about social media). We are taught from childhood to be kind, not to gossip about people, to consider others' feelings, but when it comes to social media and fame, all bets are off and anything goes.
People who were not kind, did gossip and lapped up the meanness towards someone else deserve to feel ashamed and guilty. Adults should not be mean to others and should not tolerate others doing so.

This. Just be kind.

SabreIsMyFave · 23/03/2024 10:27

Agree with @Daz57 Good post @Usernamewassavedsuccessfully . 👏

Catsfrontbum · 23/03/2024 10:30

omg- I knew someone would trot out the “just be kind”

aka- please stop taking woman

I wish nothing but wellness for Kate. I can wish that AND be angry at how KP have handled this.

MrsJellybee · 23/03/2024 10:31

I think they were always going to release an update on the Princess of Wales’ health yesterday. It wasn’t forced. They delayed for several reasons. One of which was to wait for the children to break up for Easter so they could take them away from the inevitable fallout. I think the manner in which it was done - a personal piece to camera - was not the original intention however. The PoW had to do this to show ‘proof of life’. Had a statement been released by KP about her diagnosis, I think the rumour-mill would have exploded further with where she was, how ill she was etc. I am sorry for her. That she had to ‘show herself’ to the world at such a time…

grapeomelette · 23/03/2024 10:34

Some people have very dull lives and are not very nice people. Now we know who those people are. They've done us a service.

CurlewKate · 23/03/2024 10:36

That moral high ground must feel pretty good.....

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