The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

If people thought there was something wrong the most likely explanation was exactly what has happened, a more serious diagnosis than was originally thought.

So why didn’t people wait until Kate was ready to share the news (especially when they have young children).

Why post speculation after speculation? If you had a friend or relative that had recently had major surgery and had asked for people to leave them in peace for a while with their close family unit, would you keep badgering them for information, would you gossip amongst other friends saying things like, bet her husband had beaten her up, had an affair, had an illegitimate child, or would you wait patiently until they were ready to share their news?

That’s a massive deflection of this debate there.

This thread is about bullying and harassment.

Youre basically saying well we wouldn’t have harassed this poor woman if the NHS was fit for purpose. Yes, the NHS has problems but that is a complete side issue to this.

If that’s your counter argument as to why it was done in the first place then it just boils down to the ugly face of jealousy.

The NHS not working properly does not make any of what has gone before in this instance right.

As it turned out Catherine was extremely unwell. It was not a simple operation with a return at Easter as we were told.

It is even worse than most of the conspiracy theories.

Perhaps. When it comes to Kate and her illness.

It doesn’t explain the nasty accusations levied against William though.

A man who was doing his best when two of the people he loves best in the world are diagnosed with cancer. As well as bearing that burden, he had the knowledge that people were spreading absolute nonsense about it when he thought he might just have had some compassion.

As it turns out, I don’t think it could have got much worse for him.

I am not sure what was said about William, but the affair rumours happened years ago. That is old news.

They shared what they were comfortable sharing. A right that all of us should have.

It is not an invitation to cackle with glee and start going all jackanory.

People generally can not bear uncertainty.

Bullshit. It was in part a concerted campaign aided by the Sussex fans. Some people can't help themselves but they love and get kicks from slagging others off-line and in real life. They have to bring others down. It's almost compsulsive. Imagine being William and hearing about the DV gossip because his brother has obviously created a platform for that with his book. Imagine he hears about it while trying to come to terms with the news that the mother of his 3 very young dc has cancer. What is it with these apologists?! He lost his mother at a young age, his father has cancer. But everyone on X, Mumsnet etc goes, he's lazy, he's beat his wife up, he knocked up another woman, while his heart is broken for his wife and young dc. This has nothing to do with information vacuum, it is the lack of kindness and basic humanity. It's sadly eye opening.

Well that says more about your morals than it does about anyone else.

The speculation was utterly vile.

I'm quite happy to see snapshots of the Royals' lives as they go about their duties. I don't need to know every trivial bit of their private lives.

Not to mention the family members who you have to decide not to tell, because they can't be trusted...

@eise Why don't you start a thread about the inequality in access to health care? Try AIBU

I am not sure what was said about William, but the affair rumours happened years ago. That is old news.

Old news or old rumours?

The rumours and allegations since Kate stepped down are many.

Have a look. It is a treat. If you like fiction.

If no picture had been released social media would still have gone into overdrive about the PoW hiding away. I really don't know what magic formula people think KP could have used to stop people speculating whilst at the same time giving Catherine and her family time to assimilate and deal with the diagnosis privately.

I’m starting to feel like it has gone all ingénue on my arse.

Well I am sure the royal PR team have learnt so much from this, but really at Catherine’s expense. The King’s diagnosis was handled so beautifully, smoothly without fuss and he retained his dignity and integrity throughout. I felt the opposite was true in Catherine’s case. I do believe had the public been informed in a similar way there is no way we would have seen so much speculation or the horrendous efforts to find out ( checking her medical records etc)

We need greater legal protections.

With the news we now have how do people think the PR could have been handled whilst the family were digesting the news and needed their privacy. What could have been said?

What could have been said?

It doesn’t need explaining.

Exactly what was said.

No more. No less.

It said all that was needed. They don’t have to placate fools.

I think it's perfectly understandable why she didn't want a photo taken, but in the U.K. what has caused the problem was the photoshopping of the image. In the US of course, and online, it was way over the top speculation that exploded with the photoshopped image.

People are forgetting oh-so-conveniently that there was massive speculation before the photo ever appeared.

Anyway. I am going to bow out of this thread now. Just one more thing to say before I go:

I hope but doubt all you conspiracy theorists and gossip ghouls are feeling thoroughly ashamed of yourselves today. And no, blaming "Kensington Palace" or "the media" or "the Establishment" does not let you off the hook. You acted with volition and you behaved appallingly. Own it.

NOTHING!!! NOTHING NEEDED TO BE SAID!!!!!!!!!

Turns out I had two more things to say. Over and out.

Well, on these threads they were revived and given and extra addition of unsubstantiated rumour. Fathered a child by another woman? Subjected her to domestic violence? Vile.

The princess is having further treatment following her surgery, she is recovering as expected, the Princess of Wales will make a statement at Easter with an update.
Catherine would like to personally thank her well wishers for their incredible support, they have been touched beyond words by your kindness.

Eh? We were told she had abdominal surgery and would be out until Easter
What more was necessary?

It wasn't just about the affair rumours. I've seen tons of posts accusing him of domestic violence, murder and those tweets got tens, sometimes even hundreds of thousands of likes on X.

Well there was far more to it. Sadly.