The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

I think the mother's day photo added fuel to the fire. When the photo was released after about two months of her absence, I was glad and felt relieved to see her. She looked happy with her children. I liked the photo and thought it was a great photo. When it was found out that it was manipulated and it seemed the manupulation wasn't some level of photoshop editting, I was disappointed and thought I was stupid and gullible and lost trust and started to wonder about her actual conditions and whereabouts.

I didn't say they had. My post was in response to all the people on here saying that others need to hang their heads in shame etc, which I don't think anybody needs to do. I'd rather not have a RF to speculate over in the first place, I'd rather we were all oblivious to Kate's existence and medical issues altogether, which would obviously be far better for her.

They're quite happy to be propped up by the taxpayer, have hundreds of thousands of people queue up to see them lying in state, line the streets for an obscene coronation

Oh well. That makes every rumour and lie okay then.

I get paid by the taxpayer too. For about 90% of my working life maybe.

Tell me. What should I be happy to have said about me for in exchange for my wages?

Who else propped up by the taxpayer is an unelected head of state? You cannot compare the RF to anybody else

I couldn't disagree more.

It's time to take responsibility and not blame others (specially not the victim!)

Are you King Charles? If not this isn't about you

Andrew has not been "brought back in the fold". He has still had various privileges removed. He is still a member of the family, and presumably they believe him. I would think less of them if they totally turned their backs on him.

Bit annoying how all of the people who bought into the conspiracy are suddenly blaming Kensington Palace PR when their own gullibility had made the leap from crappily edited photo to death, divorce, face lift etc.

People now have to live with themselves, I get that.

They need to find a justification for their actions, but really there is nothing wrong with acknowledging that things went too far and that an adult should know when to stop.

I also missed the bit where people were marched out of their homes at gun point to go and stand and cheer for the royals on pain of death.

Oh right. So your logic is that 'we pay for them and we deserve to know' ONLY applies to an unelected head of state. Not PMs or MPs or the head of MI5 or civil servants or doctors or teachers or anyone else on the taxpayer dime.

Why?

You have not owned it. You have gone on and on about "Kensington Palace" releasing a "composite" photograph. Even after the PoW has said she altered the photograph herself.

And two days ago they were calling us the sheeple, the ones who were being manipulated.

Now it is all the fault of the dastardly Kensington Palace!!

I dont see what they could have done differently really. If she had done a video looking like she did yesterday the public would have been picking her apart (has she lost weight, is she pale, where is William?). The whole point was they needed time and space to digest the news in private and away from cameras, particularly since Kate was still recovering from a major operation. They were trying to protect their children from gossip and questions. Trying to figure out how to handle it all. They most probably did not discuss the prognosis with the Palace staff as they didn't want the news leaking out and didn't want to talk about it until they had come to terms with it themselves. Put yourself in their situation .

Oh right. So your logic is that 'we pay for them and we deserve to know' ONLY applies to an unelected head of state. Not PMs or MPs or the head of MI5 or civil servants or doctors or teachers or anyone else on the taxpayer dime.

Why?

Well quite.

Do I really need to explain the difference to you between a teacher and the King?

And I didn't actually say anything about people deserving to know things, my point was that the public can't be expected to switch their interest on and off, that speculation is natural.

I remember posting ages ago, long before the Mother’s Day photo, that this all called to mind the public over-investment that was seen after Diana’s death. Only quite a bit more malevolent than demanding the Queen and the Royal Family come out from seclusion at Balmoral to show themselves to the grieving nation.

I haven’t really changed my mind on that.

Nobody ever said that speculation wasn't natural. It's the vile rumour mongering that's beyond a little bit of speculation.

Do you still really think, now in the context of knowing that she has been undergoing chemo, that she was sitting around fannying around on photoshop?

Anyone that’s even tangentially known someone with cancer knows it’s quite possible.

It's all about values isn't it? Some peoples values are that a persons health issues are private and we should all respect that.

Others peoples values are, we own you, I have a right to know, let's tear a woman down, let's make up horrific lies about someone, let's watch with glee as they make a mistake.

She's not completely out of it. I think she can use a bit of software.

I prefer not to call Princess Catherine a liar.

Do I really need to explain the difference to you between a teacher and the King?

One can retire at 66, the other works until they die. So that's one difference. OTOH HM is much better paid than a teacher and is a public figure - so your argument is that because of this they have to endure all the stuff that's posted on SM about them, however poisonous and inaccurate, and they're not entitled to any privacy when they're ill and not to be treated like human beings deserving of compassion and understanding.

Do I have that right?

You absolutely have that right.

I should know. Apparently.