The Princess of Wales..

[CurlewKate]

I just wanted to share some thoughts I've had since talking to some RL friends last night. I'm a Republican, and didn't actually post much on any of the threads on here. But I did read them, laugh at the ones I found funny and speculated a little IRL. I enjoy robust mental health, but I feel a little sad and down today about the news. And a little guilty. It occurs to me that it might be a real source of distress to some other people. Not the big media ghouls, of course, they have no shame and will just move on to the next thing without looking back, but for those of us who bought in to the whole farrago and maybe posted things we now wish we hadn't. So remember, the media often manipulates us, the establishment often lies to us and it's actually a good thing not to immediately take what we're told at face value. Don't beat yourself up and find someone to talk to if you feel really bad about it. Take care of yourselves.

Aye aye.

Yes, they should hang their heads in shame, and fucking apologise until the day they die.

yeah, that's really going to happen not

what's worse is that since the latest announcement, it's apparently still raging on Twitter, with people continuing to rip lumps out of each other, recriminations, faux outrage, yada yada yada.

when the paparazzi were hounding Princess Diana in the 90s, long before social media really took off, people devoured the trash press stories, creating the demand for more coverage, everything from the gutter press, Hello magazine to the National Enquirer. Then after her death, It was all the hand wringing and "this cannot continue" and here we are again, history repeating itself, demanding updates because people think it's their right.

all this "everyone should be hanging their heads in shame" is pitiful, from the very people who caused the problem in the first place.

well put OP.

when the paparazzi were hounding Princess Diana in the 90s, long before social media really took off, people devoured the trash press stories, creating the demand for more coverage, everything from the gutter press, Hello magazine to the National Enquirer

Editors reckoned that a pic of Diana on the front of a paper or magazine sent the circulation into overdrive; read by the same people who blamed the press for hounding her to death. Some people really have zero self awareness or examination of themselves.

I do agree with this. The PR team has been very amateurish and must be run solely by interns and work experience. Not a jot of common sense between them.

I haven’t been part of the feeding frenzy mob and, having at abdominal surgery myself (which also turned out to be cancer) I had no problem with her being away for a few months.

Oh, are you one of the ghouls who is taking it easy on themselves today?

Famously captured here

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Well done you!

I don’t want to have an argument with you.

But every time any of us click on a news article about RF, express an opinion (however supportive), take part in a social media discussion on the topic we are part of the mechanism that drives the unhealthy interest and wild-rumour mongering. That’s what I mean about ‘collective responsibility’.

Just ignoring the madness would be more beneficial in the long-term. Creating more anger and arguments is counterproductive.

Don’t post a composite pic saying all is fine.

say something else.

they will have the best in the business working for them. Why can’t they do better?

More generally, I am loving the virtue signalling on this thread. Nothing like a bit a back peddling.

No backpeddling here. Happy for you to do an advanced search on my previous posts.

You seem to be very invested in including others in your ghoulishness. Just own it, why don't you?

Just ignoring the madness would be more beneficial in the long-term

I agree in part with what you say.

Unfortunately that would mean that it would allow lies, scurrilous rumours and derogatory comments to stand unchallenged when the reason was explained and was clear to most with a shred of decency.

As someone who has had their reputation and career pretty much destroyed by that kind of nonsense, I sympathised.

It only really works if those intent on spreading absolute shite don’t bother spreading shite in the first place.

This article by Mark Toth of The Hill has been posted elsewhere on this board before, and is worth posting again regarding the discussion up thread about Russian propaganda and the useful idiots helping to destabilise our political structures.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4426960-harry-and-meghan-knives-out-in-jamaica/

Plus tweets from Mark Toth:

Heretofore, I’ve intentionally not commented on @KensingtonRoyal despite frequently writing about the British Royal Family in context of national security — and King Charles’ status as head of state & head of the Commonwealth.

For the past several weeks, I’ve watched in utter disgust as a young mother has been trolled, attacked and maligned by so-called nameless Sussex squad Twitter accounts — and wondered how they would personally react if the world’s town square turned on them or a beloved family member during a time of significant health crisis.

Several of my own sources I have always found credible, confirmed weeks ago to me that the Princess of Wales was undergoing a significant health crisis.
Believing in privacy, I went no further as her health condition falls outside the purview of what I cover as a journalist.

Yet her story was never about royalty let alone about a royal personage. It was solely about a woman enduring a significant health crisis — and every Twitter account that reveled in demonizing her for clicks and revenue should be ashamed.

Cancer sucks. I’ve watched close family members die of it. I’ve attended the wake and funeral of a young 11-year-old boy I helped coach and train in soccer.

You don’t have to believe in monarchy to believe in decency and human kindness.

I am under no delusion. These accounts do not care about humanity. They’ve attacked her children, her parenting decisions to prioritize raising George, Charlotte and Louis — and they have attacked her husband, the Prince of Wales, for adamantly refusing to betray her desire to keep the nature of her illness private until she and her family could process it.

Clearly, as an American, I do not believe in monarchy as the best means of governing a democratic nation. Yet, at the same time, I 💯% percent respect that this is a choice for only the British people to make — and it is none of my business what choice they make.

England is America’s closest ally — and I believe that means being as supportive as possible of the decision the British people make for themselves.
I also believe in decency — and it is sorely missing by many on this and other social media.
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Godspeed to Catherine, William, George, Charlotte and Louis as they as a family face this period of uncertainty as so many other families do when cancer attacks.

Oh get over yourself!!! Youngish mother with cancer, massively in the public eye, wants to keep her illness private, but the vultures won't let her.

It's cruel that she and her family had to put up with the maelstorm of vicious speculation while dealing with such a difficult diagnosis, and reassuring her young children.

Most decent people don't give a shiny shit about the fucking photo! It's nothing in the grand scale of things!

Absolutely.
I think what I’m trying to highlight (albeit clumsily) and encourage is an element of self-awareness.

I feel sad for anyone who is ill but I'm wondering how Rose Hanbury is feeling after having her personal life dragged through the gutter.

I don't think that people who speculated are awful.

The RF can't have it both ways. They're quite happy to be propped up by the taxpayer, have hundreds of thousands of people queue up to see them lying in state, line the streets for an obscene coronation, be curtseyed to and fawned over.

But then at other times the public are expected to completely step back, show no interest, not speculate. That's completely unrealistic.

On a personal level I feel very sorry for Kate, and William, who must be going through hell with both his father and wife unwell. Nobody should have to issue public announcements about their cancer treatment and that's one good reason why we shouldn't have a RF in the first place.

STFU Norma

@naturesform - the RF, to the best of my knowledge, have never ever told the British population "not to speculate".
Being asked for privacy because of medical treatment and recovery is an expectation anyone could rightly expect.

I have owned it. You do an advanced search love.

I don’t understand this attack on me. Feels very displaced. Can you own that?

Telling me that I have been a ghoul, that I have fuelled conspiracy theories. Goodness me. I have a lot to be responsible for! What a joke.

Not content with going after one family and their children but two. The whole thing has been despicable.m when as said, it was clear what the reason was.

I wonder if those who insist the RF should accept and expect, nay deserve this kind of speculation think that this woman and her family ‘deserved’ it also.

They're quite happy to be propped up by the taxpayer, have hundreds of thousands of people queue up to see them lying in state, line the streets for an obscene coronation

Dang, I missed that obscene coronation, were there nudes?

And I'm pretty sure HM had no thoughts whatever about lying in state, what with her being dead and all.

Lots of people are propped up by the taxpayer. And yet it's only the RF that seems fair game.

@Geebray I said “more generally” meaning the wider MN community. Not you specifically just for clarity. HTH