Calling her Kate Middleton seems so disrespectful

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In the midst of all this, I hope that anyone who reports on or speaks about the matter can refrain from calling her Kate Middleton. She is the Princess of Wales, and that's that.

Other than that, I sincerely pray that she and the family are offered privacy and respect that they themselves ask for, and deserve.

I know, I know, not technically Princess Catherine or Princess Kate. I'm just arguing that calling a woman by her maiden name is not okay. Period.

In many countries married women are still known by their maiden names. They go from the cradle to the grave with them. It's not offensive.

Only on MN do people obsequiously call her Catherine. The rf might have decided to attempt to lose ‘Kate’ after she was known by that name for years, but it won’t succeed.

My friend hosted them at an event not that long ago and William called her Kate all afternoon. Do people really think he stopped calling her Kate in private and calls her Catherine?

Well the newspapers and media shouldn’t use nicknames in reporting - we know they (K&W) call Charlotte Lottie and Louis LouBug at home but it would be weird if a news reporter used those terms.

However we all know the reason why the media calls her both Kate Middleton and her official name and title in news stories - it’s because it gets more returns in internet searches and therefore more clicks and therefore more ad revenue.

’Kate Middleton’ is a strong keyword in internet searches - no paper wants to give up the extra clicks.

What you wrote in such a factual manner is completely wrong.

Another zombie thread

Yes, although an entertaining read nonetheless. Especially the merails. Worth stressing that many of us both in the UK and abroad simply do not use royal or aristocratic titles for people. It would be disrespectful for any holder of such a title to presume they're entitled to be addressed by it, given the range of views people hold about such title systems and the history attached to them.

And yeah, the rest is google analytics plus people not actually knowing or keeping up with surnames, which clearly don't function like they do for the rest of us.

She is Kate Middleton. She is also Princess of Wales. I will call her what I want…

She has not been "Middleton" since she married. Do you usually go around calling married women by their maiden names, even if they've changed them? Or is this a special case?

I doubt this poster knows her personally 🤨

Yes. I call people by their maiden name. Hope that helps!

But what is her name now? If you don't want to use a title like PoW because you have no desire to be so obsequious then it's a total guess as to what her actual name is now. Catherine Windsor? Windsor-Mountbatten? Wales? Does she even officially have a surname now?

No idea. So Middleton will do fine. I'm not convinced that isn't her name given that I don't think she ever did officially change her name, just got a bunch of titles

When she placed an order with a furniture shop on Anglesey (during William's RAF days) she gave her name as "Mrs Cambridge".

During the wedding it was "I, William Wales, do take..." so you could call her Catherine Wales.

If the monarchy were abolished they'd be "Mountbatten-Windsor" so you could use that if you like.

Must be a bit complicated if you didn't know them before they married.

Personally I call people what they prefer to be called. It's much easier.

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Worth stressing that many of us both in the UK and abroad simply do not use royal or aristocratic titles for people. It would be disrespectful for any holder of such a title to presume they're entitled to be addressed by it, given the range of views people hold about such title systems and the history attached to them.

I’m not catholic.I’ll still call Robert Prevost Pope Leo XIV though. I don’t think he’s being disrespectful in assuming people will call him that?

Everybody calls Queen Elizabeth’s father George VI, even though his birth name was Albert. And everyone calls Elton John by that name, not Reginald Dwight. What’s the difference?

This.

If I wanted to be pedantic I would call the Sussexes Henry and Rachel, but that would be rude as they have specified they prefer being called Meghan and Harry. Hence why I refer to the Princess of Wales as Catherine.

I would hope no one misnames the people who insist on calling her Kate Middleton. It’s rude when she signs herself of as Catherine or the Princess of Wales.

Don’t be so silly! She has been married since 2011 and is now known by another name.

If your maiden name was Jane Smith, then you married Mr Jones, it would be like everyone calling you ms Smith for the rest of your life, even if you wanted to be called Mrs Jones.

But wasn't he only William Wales because he was the son of the Prince of Wales? Same as George started at school as George Cambridge because Duke of Cambridge was his father's highest title at the time.

Not sure that extends to wives, despite Meghan Sussex calling herself that.

If she isn't officially Catherine Wales, or Catherine Mountbatten-Windsor then she never stopped being Catherine Middleton.

As I said, if titles were abolished tomorrow then "Mountbatten-Windsor" is what she would be called. Use that if you insist.

It's disrespectful to continue using someone's maiden name unless they themselves have decided to continue using it.

Why are some people refusing to accept that in certain countries married women are still known by their maiden names 🤷‍♀️

Do the Italians still use both surnames? If Miss Smith married Mr. Jones she would have been called Someone Smith Jones.

Of course there are. But the woman in question lives and works in the United Kingdom, where that is not the custom.

But she's not not using it because she doesn't have a different one. So she might become Mountbatten-Windsor if we abolished the monarchy but that isn't her name now. So the only surname she's actually ever had is Middleton.

Nothing disrespectful in using it. And I can't imagine she gives a shit.

For Elton, the difference is that one is a title and one is simply a first name. They're not the same thing, adults changing their names does not have the same connotations or come with the same history. There is zero comparison.

Re the Pope, it would indeed be disrespectful of him to presume he's entitled to be addressed by that title by every single human he encounters, especially those who fundamentally disagree with and may feel the institution has done harm to them and/or their ancestors. Such people may sometimes still opt to use the title when referring to the person for practical reasons, usually so they can be most easily understood. That would still be their choice and not something the holder of the title is entitled to expect.

The same applies to TAFKA Kate Middleton. Or currently known as actually, if that is the surname she prefers- we don't seem to have certainty either way? Maybe she could go with a symbol, like one very famous Prince with naming issues. Though if we ever met I expect we'd use first names to address each other anyway, so probably not information I'd ever actually need.