Calling her Kate Middleton seems so disrespectful

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In the midst of all this, I hope that anyone who reports on or speaks about the matter can refrain from calling her Kate Middleton. She is the Princess of Wales, and that's that.

Other than that, I sincerely pray that she and the family are offered privacy and respect that they themselves ask for, and deserve.

Without good cause, I slightly twitch when people call her Catherine.

Me too. I think it's because the change was made for not very natural reasons - Queen Catherine sounding better (to Queen Elizabeth?) than Queen Kate.

No one close to her seems to actually call her Catherine, so I think I file it with calling her by her titles, a bit obsequious.

@sashh she didn't choose not to use it. QE2 chose for her not to use it. Thought that if she did we would all get angry about Diana again.

If we are being really pedantic isn't Elton John Reginald Kenneth Dwight? As you don't seem to like people choosing their own nicknames which then catch on.

The point is the same. Camilla had all but one of the titles Kate has now, but was only known by one (possible two if she used her Scottish title in Scotland).

Titles
are such a load of bolox.

You can buy a title!

@sashh yes, but the way you wrote it seemed to imply it was Camilla's personal choice. It wasn't, it was optics.

I'm guessing it was a choice she was absolutely fine with! Why on earth would she want it.

Re-reading my initial post, and what I obviously didn't make clear was that I was talking about the news media use of Kate Middleton (even IF for SEO) when referring to her. There may well be rules from the Palace, or even wish from Catherine herself, that they use certain terms. The BBC seems to follow that.

Whatever any individual cares to use was not what bothers me. Couldn't care less - although makes them seem a bit rude, or trying to prove some kind of point about retaining (use of ) family/maiden name. Again, not unusual in the modern world.

If though, you become a member of the Royal family, and are then titled as a Princess (along with many other titles) would you not expect to to be used? Especially in certain circumstances, and to have it as default would make sense, and possibly stop the DM "writers" getting themselves all confused in just one article.

Of course it is, Diana was PoW after marriage, not Lady Di, but people still called her Lady Di.

We still call all of Henry the VIIIs wives by their maiden names.

Thank you. I look at it like this. If the name holder has no concerns, then no one else should

I can see the OP's point of view and do agree with the OP to a great extent as I too felt, rightly or wrongly that some media called hRH Kate, KM just to disprect her but as thread proves, I'm wrong.

I dont think most people care enough about titles to get it right. If she's not being called "Kate Middleton", she's being called "Princess Kate". Neither is correct, but people just do what they want and the media plays into that.

I think the fact Harry and Meghan sent a message yesterday to ‘Kate’ is evidence that she’s known as Kate to those that know her. My friend has met them through his work and William always calls her Kate.

It does seem nauseatingly obsequious to see posters on here calling her Catherine or by her title. It’s rather silly.

Strange thought process.

So we shouldn't use Joe Biden's name, or Rishi Sunak's, only their job titles?

They probably didn't at the time though?
There were a couple of Katherine/Catherines mixed in there, and Annes, so I suppose it also helps to remember which ones died or survived.
At the time though, they were probably called Queen [XXXX], even the Queen of England.

Today's media - including, especially, online - would be a real frenzy I bet.

Well... I sort of think that doesn't sound too great either....
Certainly removes any gravitas (if they have much) that comes with the office they hold.
A combination is better - somehow.

Really ? Every time I have heard William speak about his wife it’s Catherine .

That’s because it’s on camera. Off camera and in private, he calls her Kate.

Apologies , I didn’t know that you are friends .

🤨 we’re not friends, but as I have said upthread, my friend has hosted them (many times) at a sporting event so does know them well. Catherine is her name in public only. Behind the scenes, William calls her Kate.

Here, he refers to her as Kate:

Royal titles are a load of bolox. But if they have to give them title
Why don't they just call them princess, instead of "Princess of place name".

Usually two people in the royal family get the same place name title in a generation.

As people inherit it after someone dies.

And people get confused, amd think of the first person who had the place name, not the second person who now has it

It's confusing for people. And it's hard to remember, as their title keeps changing when someone dies.

Diana was princess of wales, now Kate is princess of wales

Prince Philip was Duke of Edinburgh,

now Prince Edward is Duke of Edinburgh.

Stop with the place name stuff. Just call them princess Diana, princess Catherine, Prince edward if they have to

Agree. And it’s nauseating to see people get on their high horse about others not calling her Catherine. And pathetic to be honest.

I still think of the King as Prince Charles.....
And heard The Queen (Camilla) mentioned the other day (no name included) and took a second.

Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice seem to have escaped the dropping of the titles (which yes, came at birth). I do not know their husband's surnames either - which I doubt they have taken on anyway. The Duchess of Edinburgh/Sophie is never referred to with the use of her maiden/family name.

So that adds to the use of Kate Middleton - by the media - seeming ,as I maintain, slightly disrespectful.

The engagement was years ago - maybe he calls (or called, then) her Kate, but refers to her as Catherine - which I know I have heard

Well, those two are such a classic of example of following protocol, aren't they? Although shall I mention how the use of Meghan's name in full all the time, is quite inflammatory. (Much as I have disliked their behaviour.)

I find the incorrect (arguably) use of Catherine's name/title by the media - nauseating. And the defense and perpetuation of it, on social media, ignorant. To be honest.