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Saladcreamdreams · 14/03/2024 21:39

Do not read or comment if you aren't interested!

Shamefully starting a new Kate related thread for the fellow people like me who are so far down the rabbit hole they need to talk it out with fellow tin foil hat wearers 🤙
I want to know.. what do you think?
Where is she?
The wild theories?
Will she make the Easter Day service?
What the hell is going on over at KP?

I think she's seriously ill and will be stepping back soon.

I've got popcorn and I've got alllllll night, let's dissect.

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Chairsinthewaitinhroom · 18/03/2024 21:27

MrsWidgerysLodger · 18/03/2024 19:49

I don't actually want any details about whatever it is that has caused Catherine to take extended sickness absence.

What I object to is being taken for a mug.

The photo released on Mother's Day was heavily doctored. Not just tidied up a bit with a few edits but so heavily doctored that the kill notice was issued. It was a photo directly issued by KP so in essence holds the same weight in news terms as any formal Palace announcement or broadcast. This could have been rectified by KP releasing the original to the relevant news agencies (not for publication or for public perusal, simply to establish the edited image was a true representation of events) The fact that this was not done raises the question of why as it would have fixed a lot of the public distrust. I'd go so far as to say that the public in general (save a few conspiracy theorists) were a bit miffed at not seeing Catherine for months on end but would accept the excuse of ill health with grumbling grace.

The so called story of her at the farm shop raises it's own secondary set of questions. If she is well enough to go out and be seen in public, why couldn't she have recorded a brief 30! second video wishing the Irish Guards well? She's their Colonel FFS. Again, I think most people would accept she wasn't fully well enough to attend but if she's okay enough to go out in public, nip to a local shop and spend the morning "watching the children play sports" then she should have been able to record a very brief video. This would have gone a long way to not only restoring public faith and good feelings, but would have shut up the wild conspiracists. Perception of this from what I've seen is that either a) The farm shop visit never happened or b) she's too workshy to bother with a phased return which may include very short videos or staged photos in the vein of well wishes to the Irish Guard. Either way it's fucking terrible PR and no matter which side of the coin you fall on it looks like they're taking the piss.

Thirdly (and this is the one that is boiling my head a bit because I really don't want to start going down the conspiracy rabbit holes) why isn't there a single photo of her attending this farm shop. On a normal day you would expect the odd member of the public to have grabbed a sneaky snap with a mobile phone. In today's current state to play with hashtags such as #katespiricy and #whereskate trending you know damn well that SOMEONE would have got a snap, even if it was dreadfully out of focus. The UK media may not have published it but you could have sold it for a fair whack to a fair few international agencies, not to mention the speed at which it would go viral. Unfortunately this makes me really doubt the story.
Plus there'd be the second cousin on the brother of the shopkeepers wife (or something equally tenuous) speaking to the papers about seeing her. The fact they cannot trace a single named source to confirm the appearance simply adds fuel to the theory of it never happening.

Even if the story about going to the farm shop IS true, the fact that it is disbelieved by so many is a mark of how little trust is now held by W&C (and maybe the wider Royals by association) The AP do not issue kill notices lightly, not was the statement from the AFP stating that KP is no longer a trusted source to be taken lightly.

To anyone that says "oh she's allowed out even on sick leave" I don't disagree. What bothers me is that if this is the case the W&C KNOW the furore surrounding her not being seen and are frankly acting like they don't give a shit. When they live a life of luxury and privilege funded by the British public and do very little in return (W&C are one of the lowest performing Royals in terms of engagements etc) then of course it's going to feel like a piss take.

Sorry but that's mostly just rubbish.

Just because she can take possibly her first public steps since her surgery doesn't mean she has to be straight back at work all glammed up etc as would be expect. That's not how it is, if you worked for a company I'm sure you aren't expected to go straight from sick bed to your office desk full time in one step are you?

mardylookingfrump · 18/03/2024 21:27

DV is never a private family matter. It’s a crime. But I’m not sure what your question means really: are you asking that if we find out the truth and it turns out to be DV, should we all stop caring and leave them to it?

While I’m finding much of the speculation a hoot – watching the tinfoil hat brigade tie themselves in knots to claim photoshopped bricks – I do think the prurient “maybe he hit her!” theories are unpleasant and a bit gutter-scraping.

Marchintospring · 18/03/2024 21:56

Surely only a police matter if one of them reports it? Or what if it was about an affair. Any of our business or just between husband and wife. Charles and Diana was a public mess. Repeat of that?

Angrymum22 · 18/03/2024 21:58

Chairsinthewaitinhroom · 18/03/2024 21:27

Sorry but that's mostly just rubbish.

Just because she can take possibly her first public steps since her surgery doesn't mean she has to be straight back at work all glammed up etc as would be expect. That's not how it is, if you worked for a company I'm sure you aren't expected to go straight from sick bed to your office desk full time in one step are you?

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This.
After having surgery for breast cancer I was able to go to watch DS play rugby the following week. But only because my wounds healed really well and I had the drains removed after 5 days. I couldn’t drive or do much around the house, and I had to do weeks of physio. I looked fine but no way could I return to work.

Major abdo surgery may have involved having drains fitted for weeks. My DM had cancer of the colon and it took her several months to recover fully. Her incision was from her sternum down to her pubic bone. If POW has had a full laparotomy then it would not surprise me if she has not been out and about until now. My DM wasn’t much older than POW. She struggled to walk up the stairs during the first few weeks and resorted to going up backwards on her bum.

I really think people have underestimated just how long it takes to recover. Probably because anyone who has a laparotomy doesn’t venture out for weeks after surgery.

Not everything is keyhole and with major surgery they often send you home with multiple drains, catheters and weeks of dressing changes are needed.
Just because she is royalty doesn’t mean that they can wave a magic wand so she avoids all the unpleasant effects post surgery.

Nono22972 · 18/03/2024 22:24

Marchintospring · 18/03/2024 21:23

Ok, for arguments sake let’s say one of conspiracy theories was true. An affair, DV whatever. Would that warrant our concern for Kate or be a private family matter?
It’s a genuine question.

Obviously, DV is no private family matter that should be immediately reported and exposed.

I'm struggling to understand how these DV rumours came about though

As for an affair, if he had an affair and she decided to forgive and forget, that's their business

TooningOut · 18/03/2024 22:26

@Nono22972 I don't know where they were fabricated either.
I'd be surprised if anyone believed that take on it.

Twonewcats · 18/03/2024 22:37

Watching kids sports is not even close to being on a video in a professional capacity.
It's like some posters are deliberately missing the point.

AliceMcK · 18/03/2024 22:54

mummymeister · 18/03/2024 11:46

This really is at the heart of it all for me. I pay the Royal families wages. I dont have a choice in this. I didnt vote them into power. I cant vote them out after 4/.5 years . They can only lead the lifestyle that they do because I fund them. We urgently need a grown up discussion in this country about the royal family with a referendum. I cant judge whether or not the PoW is too sick to carry out her duties or not because I dont know whats wrong with her. In what other job would you be able to ring in and just say you are so sick you are taking 3 months off but not give some explanation why?

KP and the whole entourage are burying their heads in the sand. not surprising as if the royals go so would many of their jobs. the PoW's are single handedly destroying the monarchy at the moment and they are either too arrogant or too stupid to realise this.

I want a referendum and I want them gone. Its just ridiculous now.

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I’ve never been a Royalist but always thought that on a whole that we were better having a monarchy. I don’t think that anymore, i totally agree we need a referendum and the POWs are a big part of that.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 18/03/2024 23:06

CloudyHeadLikeLemonade · 18/03/2024 20:22

You can watch the clip here. It's her. She looks happy and healthy.

apple.news/AE2U2fH51RTyc1ywJq6dA4A

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How can anyone possibly tell from a couple of seconds of blurry video?

Vespanest · 18/03/2024 23:15

Nono22972 · 18/03/2024 22:24

Obviously, DV is no private family matter that should be immediately reported and exposed.

I'm struggling to understand how these DV rumours came about though

As for an affair, if he had an affair and she decided to forgive and forget, that's their business

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The DV came from a mocked up photo of Kate from a real poster of a DV victim on Twitter. Pretty awful

LadyMuckonpancakes · 18/03/2024 23:16

If it is them, it’s very refreshing that they go to the local shop like that. I feel sad that someone felt it was okay to film them and sell the footage and photos. Why can’t people just leave her alone?

Nono22972 · 18/03/2024 23:28

AliceMcK · 18/03/2024 22:54

I’ve never been a Royalist but always thought that on a whole that we were better having a monarchy. I don’t think that anymore, i totally agree we need a referendum and the POWs are a big part of that.

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Quick question, if the monarchy is abolished, would Charles and William still control the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall?

William never stroke me as royal to me. He's always been lazy, has always used his children as excuses not to work. The press used to call him out on it pre-Meghan days. The man missed his daughter's first Easter to go to his alleged ex's wedding and missed his first born's first holiday to go on a trip to Spain with Harry and friends while Kate and George went on holiday with the Middletons.

His engagement numbers are always low.

I low-key believe he wants it over: no more responsibilities, duchy money, private life.

He'd finally get to live the aristocrat life he clearly wants

Nono22972 · 18/03/2024 23:30

Vespanest · 18/03/2024 23:15

The DV came from a mocked up photo of Kate from a real poster of a DV victim on Twitter. Pretty awful

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I saw that! As someone who was in an abusive relationship, that was very triggering. It even got me in tears

Vespanest · 18/03/2024 23:40

Nono22972 · 18/03/2024 23:28

Quick question, if the monarchy is abolished, would Charles and William still control the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall?

William never stroke me as royal to me. He's always been lazy, has always used his children as excuses not to work. The press used to call him out on it pre-Meghan days. The man missed his daughter's first Easter to go to his alleged ex's wedding and missed his first born's first holiday to go on a trip to Spain with Harry and friends while Kate and George went on holiday with the Middletons.

His engagement numbers are always low.

I low-key believe he wants it over: no more responsibilities, duchy money, private life.

He'd finally get to live the aristocrat life he clearly wants

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there is so much conflicting reports with the Duchy, they will probably be involved in legal disputes, even without them Charles is independently wealthy, Balmoral, Sandringham, art, jewellery and investments. It would be financially beneficial for Harry, William and Camilla if the monarchy was abolished, rich enough for a life of luxury and some generational wealth

quantumbutterfly · 19/03/2024 00:31

Vespanest · 18/03/2024 23:40

there is so much conflicting reports with the Duchy, they will probably be involved in legal disputes, even without them Charles is independently wealthy, Balmoral, Sandringham, art, jewellery and investments. It would be financially beneficial for Harry, William and Camilla if the monarchy was abolished, rich enough for a life of luxury and some generational wealth

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It will be interesting trying to untangle it all, and to see if they're cunning business types that can retain what wealth they're left with without special influence on the law.

They have some very expensive habits to maintain along with security and property upkeep.

Vespanest · 19/03/2024 01:16

quantumbutterfly · 19/03/2024 00:31

It will be interesting trying to untangle it all, and to see if they're cunning business types that can retain what wealth they're left with without special influence on the law.

They have some very expensive habits to maintain along with security and property upkeep.

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The rumours are without the two Duchy, Charles is likely to be a billionaire, the queen’s wealth was estimated at 500 million and that is meant to be a conservative figure. A billion pound portfolio in Williams case is 20 plus million profit a year. Harry and Camilla would benefit the most as currently the majority of wealth is passed without tax from monarch to heir. This doesn’t even take into account William’s wealth, he’s probably never needed to touch his inheritances

Wickedlywearynamechange · 19/03/2024 01:28

eise · 18/03/2024 15:56

Where's your proof of what you are saying. May as well be drivel itself, lies without anything to support them.

Somehow certain posters manage to drag Harry or Meghan into any post that has nothing to do with them, I wonder why.

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Quoting unnamed members of staff, the book claims that Meghan was heard saying: "I can't believe I'm not getting paid for this."

From a mirror article (dated 2022, 25th Sept.) which quoted Valentine Low’s book. That is the ‘source’. “ unnamed members of staff.”

= bullshit

Roussette · 19/03/2024 01:29

Charles is worth just short of £2billion

Wickedlywearynamechange · 19/03/2024 01:29

LadyMuckonpancakes · 18/03/2024 23:16

If it is them, it’s very refreshing that they go to the local shop like that. I feel sad that someone felt it was okay to film them and sell the footage and photos. Why can’t people just leave her alone?

If you read the Sun it was a Sun photographer. Arthur somebody.

Severalwhippets · 19/03/2024 04:43

Wickedlywearynamechange · 19/03/2024 01:29

If you read the Sun it was a Sun photographer. Arthur somebody.

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Except it’s a fake and not William or Kate. They were never at the farm shop.

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/03/2024 04:54

Severalwhippets · 19/03/2024 04:44

That is AI enhanced and not necessarily an accurate photo of the person in the footage, it’s what the AI software came up with.

Severalwhippets · 19/03/2024 04:55

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/03/2024 04:54

That is AI enhanced and not necessarily an accurate photo of the person in the footage, it’s what the AI software came up with.

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It’s not her, you can easily see from the original.

Severalwhippets · 19/03/2024 04:57

Yet again another fake.

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