Spanish press reporting Kate was extremely ill

[vaporrub]

I don’t know how credible this is because I saw it on Twitter…

But apparently the media in Spain have reported that Catherine’s surgery was not actually planned, did not go smoothly and she was actually very sick/possibly in a coma for a period of time. And there has been a press blackout in the UK.

Could there be any truth in this? I’m struggling to see WHY something like that would be ‘hidden’ anyway 🤔

This!

Amazes me that people keep peddling the 'tax payer' money, when it isn't whatsoever. Secondly, the vast majority of the expenses of the Royals would be the same or more for a President. For example: State Dinners, Advisors, upkeep of publicly owned palaces etc. For reference, all their living expenses etc are funded by their private income, as are most their staff - this wouldn't be the case for a President.

Even if they were funded by taxpayer money, why anyone thinks they are owed medical info (and yes, before the photo, people were demanding info - many seem to have 'forgotten' this) is beyond me. She is not Head of State, nor the heir.

Thankfully, I am seeing growing numbers of people calling out the horrific bullying, so at least the conspiracy theorists haven't completely taken over. If and when she wants to tell the public, that should be entirely up to her and no-one else.

The link you gave isn’t to El País the respected Spanish broadsheet paper. It’s to the Colombian tabloid El País.

Imagine having surgery and every person on your street including the nosy ones, the ones you don't like, the ones you've had a row with and the ones who give you the creeps pitching up to your hospital bed and asking you everything about your hysterectomy, pelvic floor, sex life or whatever and them then going back home and discussing the state of your health, talking about it on Facebook with associated links and then guessing you have some hideous disease and sending it to your children and their friends. Yep all the women on here would just love that you can imagine the threads this would generate. Well extrapolate that to the world, literally the world discussing it.

LEAVE HER ALONE. It is no one else's business. She evidently isn't at deaths door now and if she had been all the more reason she should be left alone. It is disgusting hounding of a woman who probably feels at a very low ebb irregardless of the surgery she has had. Yes the royals have made mistakes over their handling of it and yes they do get paid with whatever public money but noone has the right to know your private medical business. I'm not even a royalist.

@vaporrub

hope she is well but it's not news.
time the royals and lords go along with this government and the UK goes through a full renewal and change.

now the queen has gone it's time to leave this all in the past and move forward and rejoin the EEA.

I had an ovarian cyst, laparotomy to remove it (was big!) and was in hospital a week nearly, 3 months off work to recover - whilst I think she was in hospital a while, 3 months recovery isn't that unusual

You are completely right. I gave a cursory read to El Pais link and failed to notice it was the Colombian tabloid, not the Spanish paper. I'm an El Pais (Spain) subscriber, and have been checking news regarding the POW (there are few articles as royals are not really followed by the paper) and they haven't mentioned her medical condition.

Having said that, there are plenty of hints in serious papers in Spain and some TV programs are giving more than just hints without saying the condition out loud.

The big majority of people around the world, not just the UK, want her to get well and be as healthy as she could be. But it's disingenuous to think that one of the most popular women around the world, who also holds an institutional role in the most popular royal family, is not going to create gossip or be talked about. Last Saturday I went to my hairdresser to have a cut and imagine what was the topic of conversation. My hairdresser is not a monarchist and doesn't follow royals......but it's impossible to not hear the news, the TV or radio programs, specially after the manipulated photograph disaster.

Opening a thread in the royal Mumsnet section only to tell posters discussing news to leave her alone, defeats the purpose. If you really want the threads to die, don't post.

Opening a thread in the royal Mumsnet section only to tell posters discussing news to leave her alone, defeats the purpose. If you really want the threads to die, don't post.
^I disagree. With the die hard Meghan and Harry fans, bots and incoming weirdos it's refreshing to see that we have finally some normal, sensible posters representing what the majority of us think. It takes a certain kind of personality to kick a sick woman when she's down. Kate has never, ever done anything wrong in her time in the RF, on the contrary she has been pretty perfect in the role. The fact that people have to resort to bitching about her smile, her nice looks and calm behaviour proves this. Kate is no drama lama and thank goodness for that. Once recovered, she will come out of this stronger, wiser and more popular than ever. I'll add that I'm not a royalist but Kate is pretty much as good as it gets as future Queen.

I haven’t read the whole thread. But I was in the same hospital for a procedure the day after Kate apparently had her surgery. I could see the nurses getting together and I heard one ask “tell us about her”. Then another nurse said oh she is so lovely but then they all went into one of the bays and closed the curtain to continue the chat for a few minutes.
they all seemed rather excited and giddy - did not sound as if there were any serious post op complications based on that.

There very clearly are very serious complications. They are not doing this just for a laugh.

What ticks me off a bit is casual xenophobia here automatically assuming that Spanish press is rubbish and tabloids and calling all the claims “Spanish tabloid rags” 🙄

the first link is to a newspaper called El Pais, it is very respectable broadsheet, on par with Telegraph/Guardian.

So these assumptions are a bit insulting (but very British in their casual xenophobic attitude)

This is really tying yourself in knots trying to say royal family isn’t sponsored from the taxes 🙄 like, technically whatever, but they are sponsored from public funds

Actually I think it is to the Columbian El Pais which is not the same at all

Doesn’t matter.

its the ASSUMPTION that all press outside Britain is automatically trash. Typical British (unfounded) superiority complex

Re Diana, I actually use this in a writing class I teach – about fast drafting news and the pressures, among other things. Off the top of my head so I might be an hour out here and there, The Guardian and other newspapers go to press at 8 or 9pm; later on election nights. They do four night editions the last of which goes to press at 1am. The timing of Diana’s crash plus the news blackout out of Paris once she was on the ambulance – no one issued an update for several hours – meant that even when papers “stopped the presses” and did exclusive later editions meant that most papers hit the newsstands at 6am with headlines that she was hurt and Dodie had died. Of course TV and radio had the real story, as did the newspapers by then, but remember rolling internet news wasn’t a thing: at some point you have to press print on a newspaper to ensure it’s printed, packed, delivered and distributed to newsagents in time for them to then make their rounds. I think one of the tabloids had a special 2am edition. But basically the combo of the news blackout and the timings meant that most papers had a front page saying she was hurt, with the rest of the paper the regular issue; the pages and pages of coverage came next. There just wasn’t time that night in the 45-90 minutes the night editor would have had to say “stop the press, write this up, cut that story down, shiiiiiit”. History!

@mardylookingfrump slightly off topic but I have wondered about the story that was going to press on Diana that they pulled (?) Unrelated to crash. What was that about (?)

@User14March Ooh, I don’t know – I wasn’t old enough at the time to see this first-hand, I just use it because it’s a big story even the younguns I teach know, and the timings work, so it’s a good intro to then make them do a boring writing exercise

I’d be very here for an “obscure royal history, conspiracies and tawdry gossip of yesteryear” thread, though. Speculating on Kate is gross, since she’s currently going through it; speculating on “what might the press have printed about Diana nearly 30 years ago” feels tasteful in comparison.

I don’t care what she’s had done. We all expect privacy and confidentiality, so she should too.
She does like to look good whilst in the public eye, and she won’t be able to exercise whilst recovering, so I expect the long time off is to recover from surgery and then get back her physical shape.

To be honest, does it really matter? As long as she's OK, who cares what she had done, that's her personal medical business. It doesn't matter whether you are HRH , Beyonce or Carol who works in Tesco, geez give the woman some privacy, and stop speculating, it's just weird wanting to know the ins and outs of someone's life.

😂😂😂

TOUCHÉ!

The irony of the last sentence

You've already expressed your opinion on other threads and have been answered and explained to very articulately.
Why are you back again rehashing what you have already said?
Stirring the pot...
I said to you before, bog off.

We pay for them so they owe us explanations

When it comes to very personal things - their marital relationships and their medical requirements- they really don't!

We had as much explanation as we needed - planned abdominal surgery, back after Easter.

Nonsense!

It's just that we know there is trashy foreign press, just as much as there is trashy British press - but foreign press can go further because they aren't constrained by British laws, and they want to sell papers. Scandal - real or manufactured - does that.

If we in the UK didn't have those laws our press would be just as bad - we have no illusions about that.

The bit I now find most interesting is all the rose stuff. If it isn’t true she has had her name absolutely dragged through the mud. I’m surprised there hasn’t been stronger legal action which then makes you wonder if there is truth in it.

“We pay for them.”
🙄

Just how far do you imagine this ownership of them goes? This was a private health matter.