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Zyq · 12/03/2024 00:11

I suspect the reality is that the RF really wanted to give Kate full privacy about her health to try to avoid the sort of shitshow that surrounded Diana. Then, despite them being absolutely clear that she was out of commission till Easter people kept speculating so they issued the photo in an attempt to shut everyone up. I can quite believe that they remembered that they usually issue something for Mother's Day so William took a few quick snaps which Kate edited to improve. Really they would have been better off just reminding everyone that they had said she was off till Easter and nothing had changed.

Alondra · 12/03/2024 00:14

goldenrachita · 11/03/2024 23:47

I don't think the rumours will stop. People are like a dog with a bone over this. 24 hour social media and news has made them think they deserve every detail. I've read so many comments complaining that "obviously her medical details are private but we should be told what kind of operation or we will keep speculating...."
So, let's imagine (not too hard to imagine from the facts we do know) that Catherine had a bowel resection that went wrong, maybe involving some kind of brief cardiac issue or nasty bacterial infection. Maybe as a result of Crohns or a inflammatory bowel. Maybe you think the public will think its your fault for having an eating disorder when actually your weight had dropped in your most difficult medical flare-ups. Maybe it involved a stoma and colostomy bag, and she needs the months off before a stoma reversal. Women can have abdominal operations that are not hysterectomies. How many here would announce their colostomy bag to the nation? Would you do this if the press have spent years analysing your weight and critiquing/admiring your glamour appearance and wardrobe? Would you appear in public so the Daily Mail could pore over your photos and ask why you were wearing baggy clothing or worse, publishing photos with arrows on, highlighting your stoma bag? And your medication has swollen up your face- it's puffy and swollen- you barely look like you- and you can't face make-up. Would you put out a photo of yourself unphotoshopped? Would you be tempted to lie about how you're currently looking?

The PR around this has been poor but there are plenty of possible reasons why she might want to hide away that are not coma, divorce or overdose.

The only oddity for me was William missing the memorial service but there are so many reasons why that might have happened.

I also think much of the public don't realise Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace each have their own staff and own approach to publicity. King Charles is an old man with inevitably less vanity over appearance, and his approach has been overall more Frank and public- I think this has been admirable but hasn't helped the Waleses as it is such a contrast to their own highly private approach.

I hope she is doing well, whatever the story is behind the scenes.

This. I've been thinking for a while she has Crohn's or inflammatory bowel disease. It's the only explanation connecting all the dots. One of my brothers had Crohn's diagnosed when he was 35 and the first few months were a nightmare. He had two surgeries in the first 3 months, developed a lower back fistula which needed another surgery, had a stoma and was so full of corticosteroids his face looked like a full moon.

The problem has been how KP and ultimately William, have handled all this in the public eye. It's been a PR disaster when it could have been handled with more transparency without having to disclose the nature of the medical problem. A few announcements from time to time saying Kate appreciated all the good wishes, and was recuperating well. William answering questions to the public in the same manner instead of giving complete silence. He and Kate have a right to privacy but they also have serious institutional responsibilities to the country and their people. Combining both is the difficult part and frankly, they've made a mess of it.

marmaduke12 · 12/03/2024 00:19

I'm surprised nobody from the hospital has leaked any details.
Poor woman .

Lunde · 12/03/2024 00:20

MeTooOverHere · 11/03/2024 22:27

He has had a long standing affair with Rose Hanbury. It is well reported on outside of the UK. There is a press blackout here.

I'm outside the UK and I have seen little mention of it. I have seen reports of rumours of it but nothing confirming it.

I thought Giles Coren had admitted to making up this rumour for a laugh one night at Soho House?

SuperstarDeejay · 12/03/2024 00:20

MeTooOverHere · 11/03/2024 22:27

He has had a long standing affair with Rose Hanbury. It is well reported on outside of the UK. There is a press blackout here.

I'm outside the UK and I have seen little mention of it. I have seen reports of rumours of it but nothing confirming it.

I'm outside the UK too but in a country which is friendly towards the royal family and where the media is largely controlled by the same players as it is in the UK. So no surprise it's not mentioned here either.

A quick Google will show you the story was printed in other European countries though, and widely discussed elsewhere.

Primrosecottagelover · 12/03/2024 00:26

RoyalDramaLlama · 11/03/2024 20:00

I think its probably her, but she looks like she's been made to sit in the car with him. Why would you do that and not at least look out of the window? As if they only have one car and have to drop her off at the doctors before he goes to the Commonwealth service! I think Kate is being thrown under the bus by William.

I agree, I get the distinct feeling there’s a conflict behind this.

Ramalangadingdong · 12/03/2024 00:42

Ncncncworkywork · 11/03/2024 23:13

What if she has been pregnant?

You mean miscarriage? Now, that would be really sad. If it was that I think we would all feel ashamed for probing. That is so private and so very painful. I hope it isn’t that.

Mirabai · 12/03/2024 00:44

From what I’ve heard from an old contact Kate had surgery to separate gynae organs fused to colon, and Charles’ cancer is worse than admitted. (Skeptical about the latter as I think if that were true he would be doing surgery/chemo etc).

Ramalangadingdong · 12/03/2024 00:46

blueshoes · 11/03/2024 21:52

Good point. Kate's statement was written like a lawyer. She did not actually lie did she?

Someone pointed out that the photo wasn’t photoshopped but was cobbled together from different photos. That makes it a very different issue - proper lying on someone’s part, not necessarily POW’s.

SunburstsOrMarbleHalls · 12/03/2024 01:06

I thought that she may have had to take steroids post surgery (quite likely)

Or perhaps as she was due to have unavoidable downtime after a big operation she might have also had a cosmetic procedure a few weeks after the abdominal surgery (less likely)

She is one of the most photographed women in the world and if she wanted a procedure on her face now would be the perfect time to get it. She is slim, outdoorsy and some people say a smoker so may have wanted a little work while out of the public glare. I don't mean a full facelift as she is relatively young for that but maybe a blepharoplasty or a brow lift?

Im sure any significant abdominal surgery could leave a person feeling super vulnerable, particularly if bowel related. My other half had stoma surgery last year and it took months for him to gain any kind of confidence back. We had a family wedding 4 weeks after the surgery that he was desperate to attend and it really set his recovery back as he was exhausted for weeks afterwards.

The car photo today makes it clear she doesn't want to be photographed at all so I am surprised she was traveling in the same car as William.

QueenBitch666 · 12/03/2024 01:34

OhItsOnlyCynthia · 11/03/2024 15:12

Her right ear looks radiant.

Grin
SuperstarDeejay · 12/03/2024 01:50

She is one of the most photographed women in the world and if she wanted a procedure on her face now would be the perfect time to get it. She is slim, outdoorsy and some people say a smoker so may have wanted a little work while out of the public glare. I don't mean a full facelift as she is relatively young for that but maybe a blepharoplasty or a brow lift?

Despite being youngish and very beautiful she is a definitely a bit more jowly these days (as happens to the best of us!). I had thought facelift (with or without the reported abdominal surgery), especially when we saw how puffy she was in the car last week. No judgement - I'd do it if I had all that money and all that scrutiny.

However even that slight glimpse of her profile in the car today suggests she still has a little puff of cheek just above her jaw, so maybe not. Surely it'd be the first thing to be yanked tight in a facelift.

GripGetter · 12/03/2024 02:35

BoohooWoohoo · 11/03/2024 14:43

You’ve not been on the Internet long enough if you think that the rumours won’t stop.

will stop?

namechangeduetoimpatience · 12/03/2024 05:06

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 11/03/2024 16:25

“Are you disrespecting me? Are you disrespecting my thread?”

hahahahaha

Ncncncworkywork · 12/03/2024 05:53

Ramalangadingdong · 12/03/2024 00:42

You mean miscarriage? Now, that would be really sad. If it was that I think we would all feel ashamed for probing. That is so private and so very painful. I hope it isn’t that.

No, not a miscarriage, but a pregnancy she wasn't meant to have, shall we say, and one she was forced to see through

Jacopo · 12/03/2024 05:56

i really hope the Rose story is untrue. But if it is, why hasn’t the Rose person sued, or at least denied the story? Wouldn’t you, in that situation, go public and say this is a blatant lie?

minou123 · 12/03/2024 06:01

Ncncncworkywork · 12/03/2024 05:53

No, not a miscarriage, but a pregnancy she wasn't meant to have, shall we say, and one she was forced to see through

You know, I have read some utter shite on these royal boards, over the years.

There has been some horrific, nasty, misogynistic, untrue drivel spouted about women, especially Kate and Meghan.

But this, this is the most fucked up thing I've ever read.

What the fuck is wrong with you

Ncncncworkywork · 12/03/2024 06:04

minou123 · 12/03/2024 06:01

You know, I have read some utter shite on these royal boards, over the years.

There has been some horrific, nasty, misogynistic, untrue drivel spouted about women, especially Kate and Meghan.

But this, this is the most fucked up thing I've ever read.

What the fuck is wrong with you

You think it's more fucked up than suggestions she is now disfigured or in a wheelchair? Grow up and maybe go easy on the dramatics. If you can't handle speculation, what are you doing on this thread?

It's a perfectly valid explanation for why the future queen might have been kept out of the limelight for a solid block of time that was planned well in advance.

Deardoofus · 12/03/2024 06:59

It's a perfectly valid explanation for why the future queen might have been kept out of the limelight for a solid block of time that was planned well in advance.

😂Oh dear.

Mumsnet has changed.

IloveAslan · 12/03/2024 07:12

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mardylookingfrump · 12/03/2024 07:16

Although, if you read the conspiracies on X and Reddit, where posters make explicit what people here couch in vague terms, Mumsnet actually looks sane. I’d be terrified to be Kate, especially the thought she can never leave The Firm because she’d have less protection from the insanity.

Tlolljs · 12/03/2024 07:28

Ncncncworkywork · 12/03/2024 05:53

No, not a miscarriage, but a pregnancy she wasn't meant to have, shall we say, and one she was forced to see through

What?

ChanelNo19EDT · 12/03/2024 07:29

Yeh, I live in ireland and I've seen nothing on irish websites that wasn't already on uk websites. They're just playing catchup, ok, copy and paste that article from yesterday, it'll still get a few thousand clicks. Not saying this NEVER happens though. Spain has got a bad reputation for reporting utter rubbish about kate, but I follow pilar eyre and I believe her reporting on the philandering of crown prins frederik! Nothing much reported in Denmark. Except denials of "rumours"

2dogsandabudgie · 12/03/2024 07:32

Bing123 · 11/03/2024 23:41

They didn't exactly look loved up in the car...

They looked like any other normal married couple.

RoyalDramaLlama · 12/03/2024 07:43

Stickinthemuddle · 11/03/2024 21:52

I heard he was in Hanson and got booted out for not having enough hair

😀

I think it's pretty obvious BP and KP have different offices. KP have cocked up so badly here compared to BP it's obvious. Either William is not lustenjng to advice or he has surrounded homself with incompetents sonthey will do what he says. Either way, the buck for this stops with him.
If Kate has booked herself in for a face-lift as soon as she heard about her films cancer, that family is seriously dysfunctional. The current Queen is 70 years old, the one before thst was in her 90's. Why would Kate with a face-lift make a difference? She had the normal crows feet of a 42 year old woman in that photo.