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Do the Royal Family just think we are really really stupid?

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Bex5490 · 11/03/2024 11:30

Just that really. From Harry’s car chase to Prince Andrew being at a Pizza Express kid’s party.

And now we’re supposed to believe that the country’s biggest PR machine in the middle of a media storm just let Prince William take a casual Mothers Day pic on his iPhone, let the missus edit it and then post it to the world?

😒

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Calliopespa · 12/03/2024 08:36

amberedover1 · 12/03/2024 08:26

There were demands for both a photo for mother's day and also a more direct message of thanks (I saw them on here).
You think Kate reads Mumsnet and it influences her behaviour ??
No way is she "a poor woman",she's an adult with many many resources to help and protect her .
If she felt she had to release a fake picture of herself this was not because of the baying plebs it was because of pressure from The Firm .
And that's a whole other story .

I have to say I was surprised that with all their support it came down to a photo that Catherine herself had been left to photoshop. I’d have expected a more watertight “presentation” of any image. But I didn’t expect a fully candid snap with one child sulking and their mum sans make up. I think we all expect something a little managed.

Lampslights · 12/03/2024 08:37

Calliopespa · 12/03/2024 08:22

But you’ve just admitted there’s no substantive lie. The majority of formal shots we see of anyone remotely concerned about the maintenance of their appearance are carefully presented. It’s all relative as to what constitutes a lie. Is wearing make up a lie?

I am not going to interact with you further as your posts are either showing you do not understand or are being deliberately obtuse.

the photo is a composite image. This means the pixels have been swapped out from another image. Its authenticity is in question. It has been pulled by all major agencies for this reason. If you do not understand please spend some time with google and learn about digital manipulation. This is not simply applying a filter so she looks better.

Lampslights · 12/03/2024 08:38

Calliopespa · 12/03/2024 08:36

I have to say I was surprised that with all their support it came down to a photo that Catherine herself had been left to photoshop. I’d have expected a more watertight “presentation” of any image. But I didn’t expect a fully candid snap with one child sulking and their mum sans make up. I think we all expect something a little managed.

It is unlikely to habe been just Catherine who manipulated it. Someone used a very specialised tool on it. There is also sloppy editing, so yes she probably did some of it. It was edited and saved twice on a Mac computer

Calliopespa · 12/03/2024 08:38

Lampslights · 12/03/2024 08:37

I am not going to interact with you further as your posts are either showing you do not understand or are being deliberately obtuse.

the photo is a composite image. This means the pixels have been swapped out from another image. Its authenticity is in question. It has been pulled by all major agencies for this reason. If you do not understand please spend some time with google and learn about digital manipulation. This is not simply applying a filter so she looks better.

The suggestion seems to be the best shot of each child ( and Catherine presumably) was used to compile the final image.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 12/03/2024 09:00

I think if I were K and W I would use a professional photographer in future .

Calliopespa · 12/03/2024 09:02

LadyMuckonpancakes · 12/03/2024 09:00

I think if I were K and W I would use a professional photographer in future .

🤣Agreed!

crumpet · 12/03/2024 09:05

aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 22:15

How many times this needs to be spelled out. One thing is to release a doctored photo on social media; another is to release it as an official photo from Kensington Palace to the world's news media. They've done both. International press agencies couldn't publish a lie - and had to "pull" it. UK press don't seem to have done any diligence and went along until the international news agencies pulled the plug. BBC et al had to follow suit. That is why it escalated from a discussion between a small circle of obsessives of various kinds to become big news. It literally never happened before.

It was for Mother’s Day. It was a nice picture. They have shared photos on similar occasions in the past.

MyNameIsFine · 12/03/2024 09:05

I don't understand the fuss about the photo. Why is this news?

anotherside · 12/03/2024 09:07

GibberingPeck · 12/03/2024 07:32

Makes me value my anonymity. I’d hate for my every movement to be put under a huge spotlight, analysed and dissected by the press/social media.

You have to wonder about the mindset of someone who would desire such a lifestyle. I mean sure, huge media attention COMES WITH certain professions - pop star, film star, top footballer - but that’s different to a position where that relentless media focus is the actual “job” itself. I feel sorry for the kids being born into it - it boggles my mind why anyone would voluntarily marry into the fishbowl.

So while Meghan may well have been naive or greedy in thinking she could have her cake and eat it so to speak, once the reality of royal life became apparent, I think that as a family they did the only sane thing possible. Get the hell out. And yes, of course yes they are at the moment still choosing to an extent to be under the spotlight (for financial gain). But that’s different to being forced to being under the spotlight. And different again from your kids being forced to be under the spotlight.

C8H10N4O2 · 12/03/2024 09:07

Begsthequestion · 11/03/2024 11:31

Yes. Centuries of unearned privilege can have that effect.

And staggering unearned wealth passed around tax free.

The Wales generation seem to be completely devoid of any sense of the work ethic which kept the late Queen's generation and some of the next (Anne for instance) dutifully cutting ribbons and doing all the "duties" well into old age. At least they understood the importance or presenting an image of doing something in return for the wealth and privilege.

anotherside · 12/03/2024 09:08

MyNameIsFine · 12/03/2024 09:05

I don't understand the fuss about the photo. Why is this news?

You could pick up a newspaper and ask the same thing about two dozen articles on it. If sufficient people are interested in reading about some current event - it’s news.

crumblingschools · 12/03/2024 09:10

If they can tell it was taken last week, what is the fuss about? Why do people want to see Kate looking ill? Maybe her face and hands are swollen (hence no rings and face and hands edited).

DirectionToPerfection · 12/03/2024 09:18

Are people really not getting that it's more than just a touch up?

If you were making small edits to blur out a spot or something that would be one thing, but why would you need to edit zips, sleeves, etc?

Seems pretty obvious Kate's head has been superimposed from a different picture, presumably because she doesn't want her face to be seen right now. That's also why she's looking away in the car.

I actually do think she's entitled to her privacy on this, and KP should have just reiterated that she's recovering well and will resume duties after Easter.

What makes this newsworthy is the fact that they have actively tried to deceive the public by releasing this photo, and that's a really silly and quite reckless thing to do.

Lampslights · 12/03/2024 09:18

crumblingschools · 12/03/2024 09:10

If they can tell it was taken last week, what is the fuss about? Why do people want to see Kate looking ill? Maybe her face and hands are swollen (hence no rings and face and hands edited).

No one wants to see Kate looking ill. Please point out one person who has requested this?

the issue is the image is effectively faked. It is a heavily edited photo that uses multiple images for the final product. It’s a composite, with Kate’s face the heaviest edited. So the palace has tried to mislead the public. It isn’t a genuine photo. There was no need to release anything.

Merrymouse · 12/03/2024 09:22

I think the last picture of the Queen and her great grandchildren was also a composite image (which seems forgivable given the ages of the people involved).

The Royals are paid to present something that isn’t real. However because of feverish speculation and pressure from media deprived of a story, they rushed out a photo that just had too many errors. That is all.

MyNameIsFine · 12/03/2024 09:24

anotherside · 12/03/2024 09:08

You could pick up a newspaper and ask the same thing about two dozen articles on it. If sufficient people are interested in reading about some current event - it’s news.

MyNameIsFine: "Why is this train so full?"
anotherside: "because there's so many people in it."

ChalcotSq · 12/03/2024 09:24

Lampslights · 12/03/2024 08:19

Of course she’s still there for goodness sake. And she is more than right to stay out the public eye. But it is very naive to assume it’s just she looks a bit shit and can’t be arsed sitting there having her hair done and make up applied so has to hide her face, 8 weeks post surgery. No one is desperate for a haggard photo. Give over. It’s the lying and hiding that’s the issue.

It’s the lying and hiding that’s the issue.

What have they lied about and hid?

Bex5490 · 12/03/2024 09:33

Merrymouse · 12/03/2024 09:22

I think the last picture of the Queen and her great grandchildren was also a composite image (which seems forgivable given the ages of the people involved).

The Royals are paid to present something that isn’t real. However because of feverish speculation and pressure from media deprived of a story, they rushed out a photo that just had too many errors. That is all.

But do you think it was left to the queen to edit that photo?

The weirdness comes from them making out that this was just a casual home snap.

The world’s media have been going crazy for a glimpse of her so I’m pretty sure they would have at least had a conversation about what the first public image should be.

Does this seem plausible?

PR Team: The world’s going mad. We should just put a picture out to show Kate’s fine.

Kate: I’m not ready to be seen on camera because of insert whatever reason.

PR Team: Ok well we’ll just do an edited one like we did with the queen.

Kate: Ok great… out of all our expert royal photographers and editors, who shall we get?

PR Team: You?

William: Great…I’ll get the camera.

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Sparetoes · 12/03/2024 09:34

crumblingschools · 12/03/2024 09:10

If they can tell it was taken last week, what is the fuss about? Why do people want to see Kate looking ill? Maybe her face and hands are swollen (hence no rings and face and hands edited).

No-one wants to see her looking ill. If she's too ill to be photographed, don't photograph her. No one was expecting a picture to be released. I suspect it's just incompetence rather than anything sinister, but the whole thing has been astonishingly badly handled by KP.

Mentquit · 12/03/2024 09:35

BalloonSlayer · 12/03/2024 07:51

I think the most important point is that the Princess of Wales is sending a very clear message, which is: she does not wish the general public to see a full-on picture of her face as it is at present.

We need to respect that wish.

There were demands for both a photo for mother's day and also a more direct message of thanks (I saw them on here). So she sent a more personal message of thanks plus a photoshopped picture because she doesn't like how she looks at the moment. This gets found out - embarrassment ensues. So then there is a "paparazzi" photo issued which shows Prince William clearly in the car as proof, with a brief side view of Kate which you can tell is her but that's it. Because she doesn't want you to see her whole face at the moment.

If she wanted you to see her whole face at the moment, you would see it. Poor woman. Have none of you ever felt self-conscious and not wanted your photo taken?

Yes this …poor Catherine.

EasterIssland · 12/03/2024 09:36

Sparetoes · 12/03/2024 09:34

No-one wants to see her looking ill. If she's too ill to be photographed, don't photograph her. No one was expecting a picture to be released. I suspect it's just incompetence rather than anything sinister, but the whole thing has been astonishingly badly handled by KP.

No ones wants to see her ill

yet there are threads in mn asking where is she a few days ago and so was in the news I believe.

Sparetoes · 12/03/2024 09:43

EasterIssland · 12/03/2024 09:36

No ones wants to see her ill

yet there are threads in mn asking where is she a few days ago and so was in the news I believe.

Asking where/how she is not the same as wanting a picture of her looking ill.

As I said, it's all been badly mishandled by KP. If they aren't going to be truthful, they should stick with saying nothing.

crumblingschools · 12/03/2024 09:46

No-one wants to see her ill but people are complaining they can’t see her properly in the car, people have been speculating since operation announced what is wrong, why haven’t we seen her, is she in a coma, dead, divorced! People commenting on the photo with her possibly in the car with her mum, picking holes in the photo with her and William in the car.

There are a load of ghouls who want to know/see what is wrong with her.

She normally issues a photo on Mother’s Day, if she didn’t this year, more calls that she is dead! Photo only of the kids, she must be dead, coma, divorced!

ChalcotSq · 12/03/2024 09:50

Sparetoes · 12/03/2024 09:43

Asking where/how she is not the same as wanting a picture of her looking ill.

As I said, it's all been badly mishandled by KP. If they aren't going to be truthful, they should stick with saying nothing.

If they aren't going to be truthful, they should stick with saying nothing.

What have they not been truthful about?

RoseAndRose · 12/03/2024 09:50

Sparetoes · 12/03/2024 09:43

Asking where/how she is not the same as wanting a picture of her looking ill.

As I said, it's all been badly mishandled by KP. If they aren't going to be truthful, they should stick with saying nothing.

Yes, I agree, I think they would have done better to have stuck with nothing.

And the "where's Kate?" bollocks definitely did include repeated calls for "just one photo and then all this speculation will end"

And that is tantamount to wanting a picture of her looking ill - because there's a real possibility that that's exactly how she does look.