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The royal family

Yet another picture agency has ‘killed’ the Mother’s Day photo due to credibility issues

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Helfs · 11/03/2024 11:01

KP PR are really not doing well with this!

Associated press
AFP
Reuters
Getty images
And now PA media have all issued picture kill notifications to their editors and publishers regarding the Mother’s Day image due to how highly edited it was

Not going to help with the conspiracy theories

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aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 14:39

Frequency · 11/03/2024 14:37

This.

Speculating that a mother is dead/dying/seriously ill when her children's friends are old enough to read it and relay it back to them is disgusting.

The media and the general public have a complete lack of shame and awareness.

This is quite funny. So if their mother is dead/dying/seriously ill, it is completely fine for their family to release a fake image of her and then use her name to claim she edited the pic? This is care of the children - and the woman in question? Talk of shifting the blame...

Falafelsandw1ch · 11/03/2024 14:39

InfraredLight · 11/03/2024 14:37

I think they know that her entire head or something had been swapped out - not a few tweaks but like the entirety of the photograph is different. Faked as it were. There would not be a 'base' untouched image that would bear any resemblance to the final product. I suspect this is why the kill notices have been issued because it is ultimately deception (not just tidied up).

I don't think it is because she is in a coma, ran off, dead or getting divorced. I think it is because she is not looking great at the moment and they naively thought they could get away this.

This is exactly what I think. She took the photoshopping too far and got caught. But apparently that’s not a good enough reason, it’s not serious enough. But actually, I think it is serious enough for it all to be killed. But the OP seems to be suggesting that’s not the true.

Serenster · 11/03/2024 14:40

Anyway Kate has now been photographed in a car with William leaving Windsor - he’s heading to Westminster Abbey and she to a private appointment- but once again I doubt that will dampen the conspiracy theorists…

amberedover1 · 11/03/2024 14:41

I'm fascinated but then I love a mystery and am not feeling sorry for a very rich , very protected member of an institution that is based on stolen wealth and ,IMO, costs taxpayers more than they give back .

If the pic has been majorly altered to present an image which is not how Kate is looking at present then that's wrong on so many levels.

Not least of which are that it's a huge deception that wasn't necessary and that it perpetuates the idolisation of physical appearance.

ChalcotSq · 11/03/2024 14:42

Serenster · 11/03/2024 14:38

They do not all apply the same standards in regards to photo editing.

You have all their terms and conditions then? Excellent - do post links then, please! I was looking for them earlier.

Why are you calling out this poster when you have no idea either.....but felt free to make this claim:

...given they all apply the same journalistic standards...

Falafelsandw1ch · 11/03/2024 14:43

Serenster · 11/03/2024 14:40

Anyway Kate has now been photographed in a car with William leaving Windsor - he’s heading to Westminster Abbey and she to a private appointment- but once again I doubt that will dampen the conspiracy theorists…

Don’t worry, when she does do her first public engagement people will be on here saying it’s a body double.

Like with Avril Levine, Paul McCartney etc. it’ll never be good enough for them. To them, she’s either dead or she’s in an abusive marriage or she’s being forced into a marriage she doesn’t want to be in. The damage is done and it will never go away.

SeeYouInMyDreams · 11/03/2024 14:43

Larasbra · 11/03/2024 14:35

Who cares? She played with an image. Big deal.

It depends how much she’s played with it. I don’t believe a kill notice is issued for an altered cardigan sleeve as so many photos are edited now. If we have a RF who are deliberately misleading us, that is a big deal. It’s a possibility, so it’s no wonder people are talking about it. Again, the insistence by some that the unusual going’s on with the Royals, since Xmas, isn’t worth talking about, is odd.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 11/03/2024 14:49

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/03/2024 11:20

it’s almost as if the press are in a massive huff at the fact W&K have stayed silent about her health, despite the constant pushing, and have even not used a professional photographer on the annual occasion they usually do.

William is determined to do things differently and the press aren’t liking it so they’re pushing back in as many ways possible.

Spot on.

pipsfromthefuture · 11/03/2024 14:50

InfraredLight · 11/03/2024 12:22

The posters saying that news agencies don't allow any editing etc. How many times can you ever call a 'kill' notification ever being released for a photograph of this type. I cannot recall a single one. It is unprecedented.

They are making a clear statement - do not send us clearly fabricated/doctored photographs and expect us to circulate them as genuine. We will play the game to a certain extent but won't be party to deception. That to me is the message that is being sent.

There are calls for the original - the original will never appear because it will be radically different to the picture provided.

I agree.

The photo agencies are sending a clear message about INTEGRITY.

The KP Press team has failed them massively.

Serenster · 11/03/2024 14:52

ChalcotSq · 11/03/2024 14:42

Why are you calling out this poster when you have no idea either.....but felt free to make this claim:

...given they all apply the same journalistic standards...

Because the various picture agencies have explained why they took the action they did in their statements, and the BBC has explained some of the strict rules they operate under. I was keen to look at the rules (always best to go back to the source evidence…).

Frequency · 11/03/2024 14:52

aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 14:39

This is quite funny. So if their mother is dead/dying/seriously ill, it is completely fine for their family to release a fake image of her and then use her name to claim she edited the pic? This is care of the children - and the woman in question? Talk of shifting the blame...

If that is how the family chooses to deal with it then, yes, it is fine, however, that's not what is happening.

Kate is not dead/dying or seriously ill. That's nothing more than ghoulish speculation.

If the royal family wants us to know about her private medical issues then they will make an official statement. Until then, it's all just speculation and tin hat theories.

People should remember there are actual people behind this before fuelling it further. A mother and her children.

aliceinthecities · 11/03/2024 14:53

Frequency · 11/03/2024 14:52

If that is how the family chooses to deal with it then, yes, it is fine, however, that's not what is happening.

Kate is not dead/dying or seriously ill. That's nothing more than ghoulish speculation.

If the royal family wants us to know about her private medical issues then they will make an official statement. Until then, it's all just speculation and tin hat theories.

People should remember there are actual people behind this before fuelling it further. A mother and her children.

I have used the words offered by the post I was responding to

pipsfromthefuture · 11/03/2024 14:56

Startingagainandagain · 11/03/2024 12:46

This is getting so bizarre...

As someone who worked in PR/the media for years there is no way that Kate would do her own editing and randomly post/release an amateur picture on Mothers' Day especially at a time when they know perfectly well that there has been a lot of scrutiny and speculations lately.

They knew full well everything would be picked up by news agency.

The protocol means that anything would have gone through the approval of their press office and any image enhancement (making the colour/lighting more vibrant) would have been done by a professional.

To think over wise is naive.

If you think members of the Royal Family can just put things out without respecting protocol you have not been paying attention. Everything is regulated and this is a huge fail from their comms team.

I do agree that Kate is being thrown under the bus here, and she seems OK with it to allow that follow up tweet admitting she edited the photo.

I think that puts to bed the divorce rumors though.

pipsfromthefuture · 11/03/2024 14:59

Goblinmodeactivated · 11/03/2024 12:47

But no rings in photos posed for the intention of global release? Nah.

Tbf she could have legitimately forgotten them - taken off her rings prior to surgery and left them at a different home than where these were taken

mathanxiety · 11/03/2024 15:05

cloudchaos · 11/03/2024 11:10

Pretty much all photos in newspapers and magazines are edited. What's the surprise that this one is? Is it just a surprise at how "amateur" her skills are? This really is a circus.

This one is different because it was clearly edited - photoshopped actually - to give an impression she's hale and hearty, up and about - in skinny jeans and laced boots no less - and recovering well.

As such, it is part of a narrative, and because it is obviously doctored to bolster that narrative, it has naturally generated more questions than answers about KM's health. It is a spectacular own goal for whoever does their PR.

The photo was allegedly taken by William a few days ago, but it is clear from a few elements in the frame that it isn't a recent photo, and it is even questionable whether all the people in it were in the original image.

The agencies now killing it have their reputations to consider. The BBC should have taken a harder look at it before they published it.

Goblinmodeactivated · 11/03/2024 15:09

pipsfromthefuture · 11/03/2024 14:59

Tbf she could have legitimately forgotten them - taken off her rings prior to surgery and left them at a different home than where these were taken

I think the consensus is that the hands are one of the areas that has been photoshopped due to editing errors on and around them, for whatever reason. I think it’s unlikely that she has not worn her rings in the two months since her surgery?

cloudchaos · 11/03/2024 15:11

@mathanxiety you don't know it was edited to show that. Most editing is with photoshop or LightRoom so I'm not sure it being "photoshopped" requires the distinction? It could be she had a messy lawn in the background and removed the mess. Or a fly was going across the picture and she took that out. You don't know the intention was to deceive in such an extreme way. I'm always removing dirt from my photos and messy kids toys from my lawn in pictures.

Helfs · 11/03/2024 15:14

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Helfs · 11/03/2024 15:14

BenefitWaffle · 11/03/2024 14:32

People are purposely ignoring how serious a kill notice is.
Retouching photos is normal, this is not normal.

100%

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Falafelsandw1ch · 11/03/2024 15:17

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Odd interpretation of that, but whatever. There is a line between freedom of speech and what you’re doing, but clearly you can’t see that underneath the tin hat 😉

Helfs · 11/03/2024 15:19

Serenster · 11/03/2024 14:38

They do not all apply the same standards in regards to photo editing.

You have all their terms and conditions then? Excellent - do post links then, please! I was looking for them earlier.

Getty have only issued kill notices in relation to Generative AI

Their stance on editing and what’s not acceptable is readily available on their editorial guidelines.

The others have varying degrees of editing they’ll allow, but Getty is the most relaxed. So for them to issue a kill notice is odd indeed.

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BenefitWaffle · 11/03/2024 15:25

The Telegraph article suggests the photo is AI generated.

Falafelsandw1ch · 11/03/2024 15:27

BenefitWaffle · 11/03/2024 15:25

The Telegraph article suggests the photo is AI generated.

That’s very sophisticated AI then. Most of the time AI is instantly recognisable to be so. I wouldn’t have thought this to be AI at all, so it’s very, very good, better than anything else I’ve seen.

Serenster · 11/03/2024 15:29

BenefitWaffle · 11/03/2024 15:25

The Telegraph article suggests the photo is AI generated.

Contrary to Sky news, which has reported that the metadata shows that the photo was taken on a Canon camera and saved twice in Adobe photoshop.

Frequency · 11/03/2024 15:32

Adobe Photoshop uses Gen AI for a lot of things including minor things like editing backgrounds.

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