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Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, spotted out and about, part 4

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pipsfromthefuture · 06/03/2024 12:52

Part 4 of a nice, unproblematic thread to discuss some of the fab outfits from the Duchess of Sussex, and some of the many great causes she (and Harry) and Archewell supports.

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JingsMahBucket · 29/04/2024 21:03

Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

Runnerinthenight · 29/04/2024 22:11

JingsMahBucket · 29/04/2024 21:03

Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

Maybe there's a reason for that?

And stop with the exaggeration - it is not a "cesspool of hate" - wise up! It's justified criticism!

AliceOlive · 29/04/2024 22:41

JingsMahBucket · 29/04/2024 21:03

Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

It was never nice. Never.

AliceOlive · 29/04/2024 22:41

JingsMahBucket · 29/04/2024 21:03

Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

You folks. 🤣 Nice one.

Runnerinthenight · 30/04/2024 00:22

AliceOlive · 29/04/2024 22:41

You folks. 🤣 Nice one.

The (actual) truth hurts.

skullbabe · 30/04/2024 01:31

Meghan has had no public appearances since Kelly’s Instagram post with no speeches since early March at SXSW. Consequently, there’s not much recent news to share about her with regards to her clothes or her charitable activities. It’s unfortunate that some choose to use positive platforms to express negativity - it has been more than apparent that many people
have been active in trying to do just that over the course of these threads and of course have been successful in changing the conversation to one that is indistinguishable from the many on this forum which seem focussed on “justified criticism” of Meghan because many people posting positively have been successfully told they were not welcome here on the RF boards.

Perusing this thread we have …..her friend taking and sharing a photo with her on Instagram, another friend promoting her project, that friend’s clothing choices, another friend being absolutely shitty and reprehensible on the internet many years ago (many of us chronically online were around at the time that happened), some attempts to link that friend to some fairly fringe right wing conspiracy theories and repeated assertions of personality traits of Meghan’s perfidity and malevolence as fact.

There is nothing on topic really to discuss hence why I’m not really posting.

AliceOlive · 30/04/2024 01:39

In my opinion, the nice threads may have run their course; there was a ton of shade and lecturing disguised as “positivity” here from the start. Also there are other threads discussing this one now in an ugly way.

Not sure anyone should be allowed to dictate not just the topic but the entire tone of a thread anyway. I’m sure others will disagree, but I gave up after pages of repeated snark from some parties.

OneHeartySnail · 30/04/2024 01:55

AliceOlive · 30/04/2024 01:39

In my opinion, the nice threads may have run their course; there was a ton of shade and lecturing disguised as “positivity” here from the start. Also there are other threads discussing this one now in an ugly way.

Not sure anyone should be allowed to dictate not just the topic but the entire tone of a thread anyway. I’m sure others will disagree, but I gave up after pages of repeated snark from some parties.

Agreed, reading the full thread there has been plenty of negativity from the start, against thise who ask questions about the truthfulness of Meghan and Harry.

The revelations of the organised lies and bots of the Sussex Squad seem to have made the difference to the thread.

AnnieSF · 30/04/2024 03:59

Meghan won't be in the UK with Harry. Surprise, surprise. She doesn't like to be where she is not centre stage.

JingsMahBucket · 30/04/2024 05:40

Runnerinthenight · 29/04/2024 22:11

Maybe there's a reason for that?

And stop with the exaggeration - it is not a "cesspool of hate" - wise up! It's justified criticism!

Yes, yes it is a cesspool of hate and racism. To paraphrase Justine from MN, the Meghan haters are absolutely batshit.

PigglyWigglyOhYeah · 30/04/2024 06:21

JingsMahBucket · 30/04/2024 05:40

Yes, yes it is a cesspool of hate and racism. To paraphrase Justine from MN, the Meghan haters are absolutely batshit.

She actually said, 'Our users are deranged when it comes to Meghan.' Which isn't the same thing, is it? I look at that quote very differently.

Paraphrasing is when you express the same meaning using different words, not making a new meaning up. HTH.

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OneHeartySnail · 30/04/2024 07:23

Or perhaps she meant the Meghan supporters are 'mentally unwell and obsessive', to use your words.

Either way, that's just her opinion. People disagree on EVERYTHING on MN, that's the point of a discussion board. The founder's opinions are their opinions, but not some sort of divine revelation.

LaMarschallin · 30/04/2024 07:37

JingsMahBucket

the point stands that Meghan haters on MN are mentally unwell and obsessive.

What point?
The above is your opinion not some provable point.
You didn't paraphrase what Justine said, you completely changed the meaning.

And the word "hater" is thrown around so much it's lost its original meaning here. That's just my opinion, of course.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 30/04/2024 07:43

No need for personal comments.

LumiB · 30/04/2024 07:46

JingsMahBucket · 29/04/2024 21:03

Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

No surprise really they try to justify it by saying it's just criticism but let's be honest it isn't. Just another excuse to aya horrible things about someone. This was meant to be meghan out and about and it started off nicely ebough yet it's being derailed as per usual by the usual i dont like meghan crowd so lets keep bitching about her about every tiny aspect of her life 🙄

CoffeeCantata · 30/04/2024 07:50

JingsMahBucket · Yesterday 21:03
Wow, you folks really hijacked this originally nice thread from @pipsfromthefuture and turned it into the usual cesspool of hate.

Posters are being critical of Meghan but come on, it's a pretty civilised level of discussion! If you go on something like Celebitchy, which I did recently out of curiosity having seen it mentioned here as a SS haunt, you'll see a genuine 'cesspool of hate'. My God, the unhinged vitriol and spite launched against the RF, both in general and separately, is something which chilled my blood. Oh, and general anti-British venom. I really hope that their client base is a very small one.

I don't know about the 'nice unproblematic thread' concept - I get the OP's wish, but is it a fair one? I'm not a fan of nastiness online, but I just think that feelings run high about some topics and it's unrealistic to expect no challenges to the OP's view.

While I agree that, for me, the only positive things I could say about Meghan would be her undoubted attractiveness and SOME of her fashion choices (not all...) I don't think you can separate her behaviour from superficial things like her clothes - especially when they're eye-wateringly expensive and she's supposed to be a philanthropist. Doesn't sit right, somehow.

For me, commenting on her clothing choices is one thing, but it gets a bit much for me when people post things like 'She looks so happy!' 'Sweet pic of Meghan and her friend!' etc. Grrr - that's just taking it too far. Of course she looks happy - she's an actress and she does nearly everything for PR or Netflix in particular. Whatever M's virtues/vices, I don't think 'sweet' is a word anyone could genuinely apply to her - she's a savvy operator. And as for her cuddling up to 'friends' in the pics...I just don't buy it. To me it looks performative and transactional. I think the problem arises because we're being asked to comment on her public persona really, aren't we? And some see through it big time and others just lap it up.

OneHeartySnail · 30/04/2024 08:00

I agree @CoffeeCantata this thread has never been just about her fashion choices

skullbabe · 30/04/2024 08:19

Agreed, reading the full thread there has been plenty of negativity from the start, against those who ask questions about the truthfulness of Meghan and Harry.

Is this thread about truthfulness? Is this thread about Harry? This thread has indeed been full of people trying to make it the usual Meghan snark fest from the start - you had people trying to post iconic shots of photographers to minimise an iconic shot which involved Meghan which led to the OP making a positive thread for pictures to allow for people to share royal family pictures, you have criticism of her clothing, you have people criticising her speaking about the effects of online bullying on her family, criticism of an interview she gave 4 years ago, a reminder that this thread was meant to be positive, a criticism of positivity, discussion of her clothes at a BBQ spot, more criticism of her clothes, criticism at responding to someone asking about an anecdote that she’s told many times before, a discussion of another women’s clothes on the SXSW panel, discussion about a visit to a family she had known since a tragedy, a criticism of a person who was involved with said tragedy from posting about Meghan on social media, an attempt to misunderstand an American gesture, an attempt to denigrate people who code switch (please google it instead of doing what so many of you here do), a discussion of Sussex Squad and online fandoms, a discussion of what happens to people who post positive things about Meghan online, a discussion of the clothes she wore at another project, interest and speculation on ARO, discussion of the difference between the Duchy and other royal commercial endeavours, a criticism of ARO existing and potential of jam being made, another reminder of the theme of the thread, a several page discussion of cheese and recipes for cheesecake, a reminder of the theme of the thread, criticism of the launch date, a discussion of the outfit worn in the Kinsey, a discussion of Doria, a discussion of a dress Meghan wore to a reading, criticism of the books she chose, criticism of the hospital for filming it, an attempt to state that the visit did not happen recently and that it was a strategic release by Meghan for (insert nefarious reason here), a discussion of Aquazzura shoes, a discussion of the outfit worn at the polo, criticism of her wearing heels, criticism of her being at the podium, her position on the podium, her interactions with people on the podium, criticism of Harry and his treatment of polo horses, mocking Meghan’s previous acting career, personal jibing between posters, criticism of Meghan hugging Nacho, criticism of Meghan’s friend positing on instagram and criticism of another of Meghan’s friend publicising her commercial efforts.

There are people on positive threads who have been posting here for years and who have presence throughout Mumsnet. Many of you who have camped out on this thread to turn it into yet another “we hate Meghan - let me count the ways” have succeeded because you have successfully told many positive posters they are not welcome here. Without making this a TAAT this was very apparent just after the POW statement that there was a concerted effort to be very unpleasant to positive posters. I very rarely post now on other threads on this forum besides this one because of it.

AliceOlive · 30/04/2024 08:41

It was derailed by purposeful goading. We have been through this though repeatedly and everyone involved is quite aware of what changed the tone.

The discussion went on for 4 threads and all were quite nice until the goading. If you don’t like it, blame it up with the posters that goaded others into joining the thread.

themessygarden · 30/04/2024 08:43

Meghan is very unpopular. In general people don't like her (and Harry too) not only in the UK, but in the US and elsewhere.

So, of oourse , when you have a thread about her, that is open to public commentary, it is going to reflect that general demographic and opinion , 65% of those contributing will be ones who are not taken in by the glitzy PR.

skullbabe · 30/04/2024 08:46

I have said more than once on this very thread that there are at least 4 threads on the go at all times on this forum to be critical of Meghan, Meghan and Harry or Harry (but also Meghan). It’s interesting that many of the same posters on those threads are not happy to stay there and post to their hearts content without very much pushback but would rather come to a thread that is positive to what? To argue? A PP was a sole voice here for many years but will not return because of the behaviour on these threads - I lurked for many years and admired her for weathering the relentless attacks on her and am not surprised that it finally got to her.

There will be a few who will continue regardless. We have a few things coming up in the next month to be posting about - I, for one, know that the Nigerian ladies will be absolutely showing out with their geles and outfits for any formal events. Meghan better bring her “A game” if she is going to stand a chance against those ladies 🤣. (I remember watching a Nigerian bridal party reveal video - and although the bride looked absolutely stunning, each and everyone of the bridesmaids were so turned out it was blinding 🤣). I wonder if they’ll convince Meghan to wear a gele - that would be one for the books.

AliceOlive · 30/04/2024 08:47

There are no “positive” posters and never were. There were people trying to protect Meghan from any criticism, who made claims about themselves which did not hold up under scrutiny. Those claims being they disliked bullying, for instance while happy to watch it happen here as long as Harry and Meghan were not the target.

skullbabe · 30/04/2024 08:49

I know my Naija bredren are going to be insufferable for the next couple of months . Already seen a few showing out on Twitter and Threads. 🤣

AliceOlive · 30/04/2024 08:55

I read that 43% of Meghan’s ancestry that is Nigerian. Does this mean that Doria is nearly 100% Nigerian? This is amazing.

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