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Prince William

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Olderkids · 01/03/2024 19:02

I am pleased to let you know that Prince William is on good form, visiting my home town today, meeting our football team and pulling a pint in the local. He clearly prioritised his engagements this week and this was far too important to miss⚽️🤣

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AlbertoDilemma · 04/03/2024 21:26

OliverTwisted · 04/03/2024 19:03

Yes unfortunately I’ve had it thrown my way a lot growing up

💐💐I'm really sorry you went through that, @OliverTwisted and @User442681bgt

AlbertoDilemma · 04/03/2024 21:38

PaperSky · 04/03/2024 19:52

He didn’t cancel a public event, did he?
I thought he was going to the memorial in a personal capacity, and pulled out.

Don’t see how it’s anyone’s business what private events he does/doesn’t go to?
(Unless there’s been a public one I’ve missed?)

Yes I believe you are absolutely right. @PaperSky. Despite the presence of the press outside, I too believe it was a private memorial, and therefore nobody's business that he cancelled other than the family of the deceased, with whom I assume he has a close bond of understanding.

OliverTwisted · 04/03/2024 21:57

AlbertoDilemma · 04/03/2024 21:26

💐💐I'm really sorry you went through that, @OliverTwisted and @User442681bgt

You’re very sweet thank you 💐

jeffgoldblum · 04/03/2024 23:06

Flowers for all !

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/03/2024 23:14

CathyorClaire · 04/03/2024 21:15

If it’s about the excess, I imagine many of the very same posters that find themselves so outraged by William’s living quarters would have no problem whatsoever with Harry and Meghan’s 12 mock Spanish-Mission bathrooms. They would likely say “Good for them!”

Willy has the publicly subsidised use of several homes while trousering Daddy's rent on another.

Harold has a mortgage along with the rest of the eye-watering expenses to pay on his cut price and grandiose purchase from a suspect oligarch.

While both seemingly have the same excessive appetite for property the two situations aren't comparable.

I’m sure Daddy’s dirty money provided a nice fat deposit though, Harry didn’t arrive in Montecito penniless, his royal coffers were full.

WhatAreThey · 05/03/2024 03:27

2dogsandabudgie · 04/03/2024 08:28

Because we really should believe all the nonsense spouted on Twitter 🙄

As long as you don't belive all the nonsense spouted by the RF using the code "royal sources". If the staff are consistently "breaching confidentiality" sells info obtained in the course of their duty then as usual, they're doing a poor "job"

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/03/2024 08:41

I don't believe that tabloid accounts of sourcing is Quite What It Seems, and "royal sources" can mean one royal correspondent talking to another.

It's only really the Sussexes who allege that Palaces are notoriously leaky, but I think that's because they assumed that negative coverage must be deliberately placed (despite it being pretty bloody obvious that's not inherently true) and made a false assumption that Palaces commented on gossip (whether press or SM) as reputation management - which they don't; after all look at the tidal wave of crap about the Waleses right now, and the Palace is remaining (as it does) steadfastly silent

(The nearest they got to reputation management was Charles for Camilla, but that was essentially "do nothing and the tide will turn, people will get used to her, she needs to keep her head down and do some work for charities and just sink or swim by how people take to her when they meet her)

Gottseidank · 05/03/2024 09:48

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/03/2024 08:41

I don't believe that tabloid accounts of sourcing is Quite What It Seems, and "royal sources" can mean one royal correspondent talking to another.

It's only really the Sussexes who allege that Palaces are notoriously leaky, but I think that's because they assumed that negative coverage must be deliberately placed (despite it being pretty bloody obvious that's not inherently true) and made a false assumption that Palaces commented on gossip (whether press or SM) as reputation management - which they don't; after all look at the tidal wave of crap about the Waleses right now, and the Palace is remaining (as it does) steadfastly silent

(The nearest they got to reputation management was Charles for Camilla, but that was essentially "do nothing and the tide will turn, people will get used to her, she needs to keep her head down and do some work for charities and just sink or swim by how people take to her when they meet her)

As someone else commented recently, it’s rather interesting how few leaks there have been lately. Almost as though the culprits have been identified and removed.

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/03/2024 09:54

Gottseidank · 05/03/2024 09:48

As someone else commented recently, it’s rather interesting how few leaks there have been lately. Almost as though the culprits have been identified and removed.

Or because there weren't widespread leaks in the first place?

No-one (IIRC) has been able to show which stories were deliberate Palace leaks to discredit or deflect, and of course we're seeing right now how many just pop up from nowhere on SM then get repeated in mainstream media.

The Palace don't comment on crap like that, whether its Waleses now or Sussexes before they left

CathyorClaire · 05/03/2024 10:11

I’m sure Daddy’s dirty money provided a nice fat deposit though, Harry didn’t arrive in Montecito penniless, his royal coffers were full.

Oh yes. I agree.

I think Harold claimed in Spare that it was Diana's dosh that enabled him to vanity buy his moneypit.

Ironically enough that was Daddy's dosh originally too.

AutumnCrow · 05/03/2024 11:14

Apparently, or so I have read, some of the 'Diana dosh' left to Harry was Spencer family money, although only a minority? The aristocratic Spencer family also had it's dibs in the slave trade once upon a time though, so I can see why that's kept quiet.

Quite the tangled web.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 05/03/2024 12:51

The aristocratic Spencer family also had it's dibs in the slave trade once upon a time though, so I can see why that's kept quiet

Mate and I were ambling around the Tate last week, noting that a lot of 18c portraits have explanatory notes that so and so was involved in the slave trade. I did occur to me that if you were wealthy or important enough to have your portrait painted at that time it was pretty much a given that you were and that it would be easier for the likes of the Tate to point out who wasn't involved.

OliverTwisted · 05/03/2024 13:07

Gottseidank · 05/03/2024 09:48

As someone else commented recently, it’s rather interesting how few leaks there have been lately. Almost as though the culprits have been identified and removed.

Are you implying the leaks were actually Meghan and Harry?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/03/2024 13:24

WinnieTheW0rm · 05/03/2024 09:54

Or because there weren't widespread leaks in the first place?

No-one (IIRC) has been able to show which stories were deliberate Palace leaks to discredit or deflect, and of course we're seeing right now how many just pop up from nowhere on SM then get repeated in mainstream media.

The Palace don't comment on crap like that, whether its Waleses now or Sussexes before they left

I’ve often asked this question what stories were “leaked and planted” by the palace as Harry so often says but never had an answer.

Maireas · 05/03/2024 16:28

BigWillyLittleTodger · 05/03/2024 13:24

I’ve often asked this question what stories were “leaked and planted” by the palace as Harry so often says but never had an answer.

That's because they weren't.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 05/03/2024 17:04

I do wonder (and this is in the spirit of trying to work out what went wrong rather than apportioning blame) if the issue was that Meghan felt the palace should have the ability to squash stories and was therefore suspicious when they didn’t. She obviously didn’t understand the palace’s PR strategy and because increasingly frustrated about not being able to respond to things in the way she had done previously.

Any Brit could have told her how the papers and palace had a love/hate relationship and being Royal was no armour against criticism from the press (often quite the opposite). Harry either didn’t tell her, or told her she’d be protected.

Because really, it’s not appropriate for someone who represents the U.K. government and the country to be constantly trying to produce clap backs via socials and gossip mags like Hello! Which is what Harry talks about them wanting to do in Spare. Totally understandable that they would but it is a bad, bad idea so also understand why palace didn’t.

wordler · 05/03/2024 17:17

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 05/03/2024 17:04

I do wonder (and this is in the spirit of trying to work out what went wrong rather than apportioning blame) if the issue was that Meghan felt the palace should have the ability to squash stories and was therefore suspicious when they didn’t. She obviously didn’t understand the palace’s PR strategy and because increasingly frustrated about not being able to respond to things in the way she had done previously.

Any Brit could have told her how the papers and palace had a love/hate relationship and being Royal was no armour against criticism from the press (often quite the opposite). Harry either didn’t tell her, or told her she’d be protected.

Because really, it’s not appropriate for someone who represents the U.K. government and the country to be constantly trying to produce clap backs via socials and gossip mags like Hello! Which is what Harry talks about them wanting to do in Spare. Totally understandable that they would but it is a bad, bad idea so also understand why palace didn’t.

US celebrities are represented by PR companies who have a whole raft of different people on their books. They are very good at suppressing bad stories for one client by either threatening no access to other premium clients, or offering a better story from another client instead.

This makes the main PR reps in the US very powerful as the news beast particularly the entertainment news beast is desperate for constant new contact and access to the latest new starts and the big A listers.

I wouldn't blame Meghan for not understanding that the seemingly powerful celebrity power of the royal family wasn't operated in the same way.

It's very interesting that both Meghan and Harry have complained that the royal communications team

  • didn't protect them by quashing stories by going to the editors of the tabloids and 'persuading' them not to publish
  • used stories about them to distract from other royal activity

which are exactly things that US PR firms do as a matter of course.

OliverTwisted · 05/03/2024 17:26

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 05/03/2024 17:04

I do wonder (and this is in the spirit of trying to work out what went wrong rather than apportioning blame) if the issue was that Meghan felt the palace should have the ability to squash stories and was therefore suspicious when they didn’t. She obviously didn’t understand the palace’s PR strategy and because increasingly frustrated about not being able to respond to things in the way she had done previously.

Any Brit could have told her how the papers and palace had a love/hate relationship and being Royal was no armour against criticism from the press (often quite the opposite). Harry either didn’t tell her, or told her she’d be protected.

Because really, it’s not appropriate for someone who represents the U.K. government and the country to be constantly trying to produce clap backs via socials and gossip mags like Hello! Which is what Harry talks about them wanting to do in Spare. Totally understandable that they would but it is a bad, bad idea so also understand why palace didn’t.

Interesting- well said about a powerful person clapping back.

OliverTwisted · 05/03/2024 17:28

‘US celebrities are represented by PR companies who have a whole raft of different people on their books. They are very good at suppressing bad stories for one client by either threatening no access to other premium clients, or offering a better story from another client instead.’

didn’t know that - learn something new every day!

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 05/03/2024 17:35

@wordler

That is interesting. And does tie in with her not really understanding the role of the royal family being different to that of a celebrity. It would be inappropriate for a RF member to be constantly quashing negative press. They just have to ride it out.

I wonder if she still misunderstands this and that is why they are both gunning so hard for apologies/ special treatment.

If Private Eye can get away with calling the Queen Brenda for decades and writing all sorts of gossip about them then I’m not sure why she thinks she should be different.

Maireas · 05/03/2024 17:57

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 05/03/2024 17:35

@wordler

That is interesting. And does tie in with her not really understanding the role of the royal family being different to that of a celebrity. It would be inappropriate for a RF member to be constantly quashing negative press. They just have to ride it out.

I wonder if she still misunderstands this and that is why they are both gunning so hard for apologies/ special treatment.

If Private Eye can get away with calling the Queen Brenda for decades and writing all sorts of gossip about them then I’m not sure why she thinks she should be different.

Because she married into an institution and took on a role she seemingly had absolutely no clue about. Which I find bizarre.

wordler · 05/03/2024 18:05

OliverTwisted · 05/03/2024 17:28

‘US celebrities are represented by PR companies who have a whole raft of different people on their books. They are very good at suppressing bad stories for one client by either threatening no access to other premium clients, or offering a better story from another client instead.’

didn’t know that - learn something new every day!

I can see Harry learning about this system and putting 2 and 2 together and making 57. That's probably why he's suddenly blaming Camilla in Spare for all his bad news stories.

AliceOlive · 05/03/2024 18:07

Maireas · 05/03/2024 17:57

Because she married into an institution and took on a role she seemingly had absolutely no clue about. Which I find bizarre.

She-Ra didn’t know anything at all about the Royal Family before she met Harry.

Salemforcuddles · 05/03/2024 18:09

Who is She-ra?