Harry’s security case

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The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

Probably investigating Meghans roots. Apparently she found out she is of Nigerian heritage on her mother’s side .

@mpsw

I'd heard there are some notorious roads in Nigeria (eg to airport) and that many people, even quite low-ranking, get armed escorts along them

Correct.

I visited the country a few times for work purposes, (reasonably large high profile UK private sector company, nothing to do with HMG or military ) and the team always had escorts when travelling between hotel and airport.

Not sure if our minders were armed but wouldn't be surprised if they were.

Are both of them supposedly going to Nigeria?

If so, presumably they are leaving their small children on the other side of the world? Something they have done on other occasions too? Remember the complaints on Oprah about Archie not getting his own private security detail as a newborn? Yet now they will happily jet off to a very dangerous country in another continent, leaving their children behind?

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13359723/harry-meghan-nigeria-visit-unofficial-royal-tour.html

Who is leaking this stuff from their side I wonder?

The thing is, she was getting paid for it, through the money they got from Charles and the civil list!!

Whatever they’re doing in Nigeria, it’ll be for money somehow. Maybe a Netflix crew in tow. If Meghan were going privately to research or reconnect with her roots, she’d do it privately (you’d assume) and perhaps take her mom with her. The fact they’re both going, to Nigeria and not an African country more commonly associated with tourism in the USA, means there’ll be a reason: Nollywood, high-end luxury lifestyle, whoever that mining billionaire was who funded the recent medal-giving - something. These two never do anything altruistically.

Somewhat late to the chatter, that burn from Sophie Trudeau was truly astonishing. Not far from the “fucking grifters” embarrassment. I’d just want to crawl into a hole and die. But not these two. I almost admire it.

I shall be interested to know as and when Harry is going pay the costs for his court case given he has lost it.

Re Nigeria , and my father worked there in the 70s when it was possibly more dangerous than today , did not Meghan find out that she has some Nigerian descant and so perhaps that is why they want to go.

Oops sorry I see someone has already posted this . I am not sure what an "unofficial Royal Tour is " . It isn't a Royal Tour - they have just accepted some invitations or indeed asked for them - I do not know.

I read that it is also seem to do with Nigeria wanting to host Invictus as well as Meghan investigating her Nigerian roots

I meant to say yesterday that exDH went to Nigeria on a business trip and they had armed guards to and from the airport and every time they left the hotel, especially if they had to visit a bank (back in the day when cash was used more)

I saw this on X and this totally sums up the situation.

It is sometimes hard to see their logic, but presumably it makes sense to them

I’ll no doubt be proven wrong but TBH I can’t see the dynamic duo wanting to go through one of the major airports (e.g. Abuja or Lagos), let alone venture out onto the adjacent roads.

Given the context of the invite (from the military, Invictus etc) one plan might be for them to bizjet directly into somewhere like Kaduna, where the Nigerian Military Academy is based with all it’s associated sporting facilities etc. They could hunker down there, well protected, and have the cultural events brought to them…

As a bonus I see Wiki even reckons there’s a local polo team…………

Risk assessment H&M style:

Q: Does this make us money or give us publicity while sticking it to the RF?

A: Hell yes! -->Security be damned.

A: Nope --> Waaaaah, we don't feel safe!!!!!

Personally I think the continued insistence that they are not safe in the UK while freely travelling to other parts of their world is just part of their narrative (constructed when their half in, half out narrative failed) that they were bullied out of the country.

I really think Harry’s problem is he conflates security with avoiding / controlling the press. I forget what he came over for but one time he complained that he had been pursued by press on his way to the airport in the UK. Then we of course have the infamous near catastrophic car chase. And the incident with the pizza delivery bike. This seems to
me to be what Harry is concerned about. Not any real threats of kidnapping or murder. I know Meghan had some truly vile threats, but these were dealt with and security reviews are of course on going. Meghan does not want to come back to the UK at all, partly I think because it holds no attraction for her and partly because it is very probable that she would receive a negative reception. So genuinely dangerous places to travel to but able to control the narrative =ok, safe, secure places but no influence over the narrative= dangerous

eta cross post with JADS. It seems that some of us are thinking along the same lines

Sorry, wrong poster, cross post with JSMill

As a bonus I see Wiki even reckons there’s a local polo team …

Apparently so, notimagain; there's a Michael Palin in Nigeria thing running ATM and it was featured on that

TBH it all looks a bit "colonial days" to me, but maybe Harry will enjoy it and avoid commenting on Africa Parks

That makes a lot of sense, you are probably right.

I agree. I bet some carefully curated locals will be bussed (is it bussed or bused?! Both look weird!) in so M&H can do some fun dancing with Nigerian people. And a nicely-cleaned toddler served up for a photo of a hug with the kind and relatable royal couple

Bussed, I think.

So Harry is in the U.K. without it seems tons of security. How does this help his case? He clearly can come without a song and dance.

But he can’t bring his wife and his family. Much safer to go to Nigeria with his wife and leave his children thousands of
miles away 🤪

@OnceinaMinion
"So Harry is in the U.K. without it seems tons of security."
I assume he has his own paid for security, but they will not have access to the usual intelligence, and they are not allowed to be armed.
In some cases (such as on state occassions, which Harry does not go on, anyway), there is likely to be Met police security anyway.

He brought the same body guard he used in NYC. It was the guy with the distinctive yellow tie. He wore the same tie in NYC.

I watched the video of his arrival. He seemed perfectly safe but oddly enough all the clergy at the door were staring past his grinning face with completely blank expressions.