Harry’s security case

[smilesy]

The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

I suspect he will have full tax funded security for this trip, at a minimum on his way to and from the event.

"Jones wouldn't be drawn in to detail on the party-loving prince's extracurricular activities. except to say he was always professional when the time came to knuckle down"

So no comment on whether he really was allowed to disappear when the drug testers came round?

Quelle surprise

Thanks. I’ll learn how to do it one day 😂. Every time I try absolutely nothing happens 😆

The author can only speak to what happened during the time Harry was in Apache training. Did that reported incident happen then?

I agree. Which rather makes a nonsense of his claim of being “unsafe” in the UK and underlines the fact that RAVEC are capable of making decisions over security in his favour if deemed necessary. Just not when he demands it. Rather shows how questionable his motives are in pursuing legal action

Thanks for the DT article and the link for us cheapskates..

The authors version of events ties with other accounts I’ve heard/read elsewhere…

Is the Invictus service a royal event? If it isn’t, why would Ravec be involved in providing security?

Well they do make decisions around Royalty and VIP protection, so if there are any of those at the ceremony and there is any intelligence to suggest there is a risk, then presumably they would be involved 🤷‍♀️

ETA presumable RAVEC will view Harry as a visiting VIP and they don’t want to lose
one of those, even if it is some tossers who has launched a pointless court action against them 😂

Thanks, @smilesy . I’m struggling to figure out what his problem is then. He’s presumably always likely going to be deemed important enough as a VIP and there will always likely be a valid security risk for this type of very public event in a Central London location. I understand that RAVEC needs 28 days’ notice, which can’t be onerous given these things are booked and organised far in advance. It’s seriously hard to understand what a rational, well balanced grown up would find unfair about the situation.

I thought it had been said on here that he'd left the "apache helicopter base", but haven't checked it out so that could well make a lot of sense

The event security isn't what RAVEC would be concerned with though. They are responsible for decisions about whether an individual should receive close protection.

If other VIPs are going, and the event security is good (eg cars pulling up within a traffic/crowd control cordon at St Paul's - a precaution that may well be in place whether or not Harry attended) they may conclude there is no need for individual bodyguards on top of that.

Yes. I suppose what I mean is RAVEC will want to be sure that security is good enough, which it undoubtedly will be. They will not abandon Harry to the wolves as he would have us believe they will

I agree. Invictus has royal connections and is also linked to the military, with perhaps high ranking officers in attendance. So it might well be considered a high risk event, with or without the Duke of Montecito. That doesn't mean he's going to get his own security detail to swan about the country at will, which is probably what he wanted.

There's no reason for Meghan to be there since she has no connection to Invictus other than being married to the Founding Patron, so I doubt she will attend.

The problem is it is not what Harry wants. The fact he cannot and doesn't merit having what he wants is something he cannot handle.

It’s also been reported that he is expected to carry out other meetings while he is in London. So clearly he is able to move around without full close protection and outriders

according to Twitter apparently they are visiting Nigeria in May, how can he spout this security shit.

I just saw that on X and I was shocked! With all respect to Nigerians ( we have a lot of Nigerian friends), it's not a safe country. Our friend works for an oil company and when he visits Nigeria, he has to wait at the airport until all the employees visiting Nigeria arrive and they travel in a motorcade to a compound. He's just a flipping marketing manager not a British prince!

Does anyone know if other countries can voluntarily give Harry state protection, despite him having lost the IPP status?

He’ll be treated in the same way as RAVEC with security, risk analysis. I don’t think they allow private armed security

@JSMill Sadly Nigeria is currently listed as a Level 3 safety risk by the US State Department and ppl are advised to “reconsider travel.”

Of course they can go there if they wish to, but it’s a surprising choice given how much they fear for their safety.

Any country can set its own rules about the security arrangements it offers visitors, or what security it allows visitors to bring with them.

I'd heard there are some notorious roads in Nigeria (eg to airport) and that many people, even quite low-ranking, get armed escorts along them

Jamaica is also level 3, and that didn't stop them, ballgowns and all. I'm seriously at a loss to understand what Harry thinks is going to happen to him in the UK that in any way compares to what happens in these countries.

@mpsw I hope that they’ll bring their own security team and not expect Nigerian taxpayers to cough up.

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar Yes, you’re right. Perhaps the safest thing to do is stay in Montecito and live quietly?

Does anyone happen to know what they're supposed to be doing in Nigeria?
All I can find is some reference to "cultural activities" ...