Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

Yet another tough week at the office for William, Prince of Wales,
fortitude, stoicism, duty, integrity, bred in the bone,
or,
as my sage Gran would say,

such things are sent to test your mettle!

Sorry missed your messages before posting my own. I’m in total agreement with you!

William was expecting and should have been the ‘most important’ person attending. He is the senior royal in terms of precedent as Prince of Wales, and the person being commemorated was his godfather.

instead he arrives a tWindsor and is to,d that Camilla is going to be ‘the most senior royal’ and enter the chapel last ( yes, I know,

It's the people who think they're entitled to the minutiae of someone's health issues because she's a public figure who are doing that.

people aren't asking for specific details about her health issue though. Its about why she hasn't not just been seen, but been heard from at all, and William has pulled out of something last minute. Along with other differences in behaviour, it is definitely unusual and something that concerns some people. You may think it's all normal, but there has been a series of unusual things happening based on how the family used to operate. Some people think its worth discussing given the fact they're not just public figures, but the future King and queen, parents of the King after, and our future Head of State.

Well then they can wonder. KP has said she's doing well, what do you want, a live feed to her bedroom so you can see for yourself?

Do we not think that sticking rigidly to the announced plan:

Kate will be out of the public eye until Easter with no updates.

is exactly the style of monarchy most people are asking for?

Most folk want a updated, different, more modern, lower profile, more 'like the Europeans'.

To my mind this means out with the simpering meaningless ''Kate is so happy and grateful'' messages typed up by any one, or fabricated pictures of her well enough to ''do work''. Any of the flunkys could type up a ''Message from Kate'' saying ''Thanks so much i'm doing well and it's all down to the good will of the peeps!'' and we'll all go ''Ohhh she's sent a message! She's ok then and very very grateful so we can all sleep well tonight''.

🙄

She's been ill. She wants a bit of privacy. Are we not all grown up enough to respect that and at least wait till Easter when they said she'd be out and about again.

I hope PW has the emotional intelligence to stop if he needs to and attend to his own mental health. This is much healthier than ploughing on when you’re at the very end of your tether.

Of this ever happened I would definitely be manning the barricades. Vive la revolution!

It may well be due to the security implications of Thomas Kingston's untimely and very unexpected death? If so key members of the RF would be under heightened security. It would explain why little was divulged since pulling out of a public appearance at short notice. Although the official line on Kingson's death on Sunday eve, is that no foul play was noted, they are still doing an enquiry into his death. It all seems too coincidental timing wise. If security services expect any element of a security breach, they will be locking down. And if we are on that line of thinking, for all we know Kate could also have received very credible threats that forced her of the public eye for a period while investigations happen. I mean, who knows..? PA acted the giddy goat at the service could be a foil by the now lesser-member of the RF to throw the public off the scent...? Ok, I think I've exhausted every conceivable plotline here! ;-)

Have you experienced mental health issues? I have. Even a prince isn’t immune to them and we can’t always plan/predict our reactions to something. Also, ‘days before’ doesn’t take account of the unexpected death of Thomas Kingston - perhaps he had a moment when it was all too much and pulled out abruptly?

If it was an issue with one of the kids I think the Palace would have said so, or even if it was because of Kate they could have come up with “a family issue”, taking care to stress separately that it wasn’t related to Charles’ or Kate’s health.

Interesting DM article which includes the passage that Prince William was supposed to read: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13135425/royal-family-open-prince-william-absence-concern-kate-middleton.html

It doesn't seem difficult at all, far cry from an actual speech. Maybe it was the subject matter that was triggering or maybe there was a security concern. The text mentions Jerusalem which is odd timing with his pro Gaza statement.

I still stand by the theory that there was some sort of total chaos behind the scenes and William (or Kate?) didn't bother confirming or cooperating with the press releases. So the PR team had to cobble together the vaguest statement possible and someone also hastened the release of the Thomas Kingston statement which even contained an error in the date. Everything seems extremely poorly coordinated. Whoever is in charge of the PR doesn't deserve whatever six-figures they're being paid for the job. Imagine your job is just to write a few lines of text saying basically nothing every 6-12 weeks. It's a no brainer that releasing a personal statement or picture of Kate is what people would be expecting to see at this stage, similar to Charles reading the well wishes. So the lack of that means she is either very ill, unwilling to do so or there's mayhem and marital drama at home and the PR team don't dare to intrude.

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain 😂 @ live feed.

William had presumably been told that he was going to be the centre of this event. He is in terms of precedent the most important Royal when The King is not present , and the person commemorated was his Godfather.

instead he arrives at Windsor to be told that Camilla is going to be the ‘senior royal’ and presumably enter the chapel last while everyone else stands up if they are able, even worse, he may have to ‘escort her’. So he tells them where to stick it.

William needs to defend his position when the King is incapacitated. Good for him.

This is ridiculous. Asking why their behaviour differs so greatly from normal and from the current Monarchs own way of dealing with his cancer diagnosis in his senior years, is not asking for a live feed.

If there were security implications then they wouldn’t have left the Queen, most of the top 20odd adults in line to the British throne, the entire Greek RF, the Spanish King and Queen and other royal representatives to attend the event

Given how secure Windsor and St George’s can be it’s massively unlikely that it was security related

The inquest will be into the cause of his death. Not whether he was topped off!

All completely normal for a sudden untimely death. Just the same when my dad died of undiagnosed heart disease at a similar age.

Whoever is in charge of the PR doesn't deserve whatever six-figures they're being paid for the job.

I so agree.

Its about why she hasn't not just been seen, but been heard from at all,

But the Palace made it clear from the outset that the surgery was being kept private & she'd be away from Royal duties til Easter. Unless thar changes there's no need for updates.

Or are thet supposed to update weekly: Princess of Wales is still recuperating and still not expected back on Royal duties before Easter

How would she be seen? She's recuperating at home. Are you expecting a zoom appearance or photos from her bedside

Or even by 9, my daughter loves poo!

Again with the ridiculous sarcastic responses. It's been covered what people think should happen, and usually would, and is currently by the King who has cancer. Nobody wants a zoom or a live feed, calm down.

If it’s chaos at the castle surely the quickest way to fix that would be to release a statement from Kate.

Given that William has already thanked people on Kate’s behalf I don’t think any statement from her would calm speculation.

If she releases an online statement it’ll be “why isn’t she all enough to do a video? Are they even her words?”
If she releases a photo or video and looks unwell it’ll be “she’s more unwell than they said. Shes got cancer/a stoma/an eating disorder/lymes disaease etc”
If she releases a photo or video and looks well it’ll be “she’s fine, why is she not back at work, lazy etc”

Not to mention it sets a precedent for future instances if this is something that may repeat at another point.

"how the family used to operate"?

There are no photos of The Late Queen when she was pregnant. Why would it be unusual that her grandson's wife is given the same privacy? This is not a novel concept.

It may well be due to the security implications of Thomas Kingston's untimely and very unexpected death

Why would that have any security implications. He was married to a very minor Royal. His in laws were at the service yesterday

An enquiry into any unexpected death is normal. They've stated there's nothing suspicious and no 3rd party involved which would suggest sudden illness or self harm.

Surely if there was any security implications then the Queen wouldn't have been there

Honestly some theories are just incredible

Ummm it IS the precedent for the unwell royal to thank the public. In a statement they have crafted or in person.

Everyone seems to be speaking FOR Kate, and that in itself is very very odd after all of this time. How can anyone think otherwise?