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CarolinaInTheMorning · 27/02/2024 18:41

In the countries of the UK, morganatic marriage has never really been a thing as it has been in Europe, where marriage to people of equal rank was much more important to royals. There have been several queens consort who were not royal so not of equal rank, yet still queen.

Camilla became queen the moment the late queen died, but a different kind (consort rather than regnant). Even if she had been called something else (as in Princess Consort) she would still be Queen, just as she was Princess of Wales, but used a lesser title Duchess of Cornwall.

Zone2NorthLondon · 27/02/2024 18:41

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/02/2024 18:40

Yes, that's what I'm saying. You're agreeing with me. Queen Consort or Queen Regnant are both queens, one by right of inheritance, one by marriage.

Ish. Queen consort isn’t same designation or status as qieen
colloquially it’s queen but it’s not the same

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/02/2024 18:43

Queen consort isn’t same designation or status as qieen
colloquially it’s queen but it’s not the same

No, it isn't. It's the title that is the same, though. Just qualified by regnant or consort.

Crispedia · 27/02/2024 18:43

Crispedia · 27/02/2024 18:35

He may have wanted to be a support for his cousin.

Just seen media saying not the reason. However, I think it’s unsavoury speculation to say anything to do with Kate. She has had surgery and is recovering.

iwiporangi · 27/02/2024 18:43

hopefulmummytobe78 · 27/02/2024 17:07

I think they genuinely don't care what he's done. They would rather have him hanging around than Harry. They have treated a pedophile better than someone who married outside of the usual pool of people.

That has to be the most offensive and idiotic post for a long time
And it's paedophile
And the usual pool of people? Please define who comprises this pool

Kenthighst · 27/02/2024 18:44

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 27/02/2024 18:17

No wonder Prince Michael looked so strained in the photos from today.

How sad at such a young age.

Did Lady Gabrielle Windsor not read instead of William? The late Prince of Greece was also her godfather. Hardly if her husband was dying?

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Letsgodancing · 27/02/2024 18:44

Some news has just been released that there was a death in the extended family. This person could have been close with William and William could not have faced being out in public today.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 27/02/2024 18:44

Ignore my last comment, the article says this isn't linked to why William cancelled.

Zone2NorthLondon · 27/02/2024 18:45

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/02/2024 18:43

Queen consort isn’t same designation or status as qieen
colloquially it’s queen but it’s not the same

No, it isn't. It's the title that is the same, though. Just qualified by regnant or consort.

Title and status aren’t the same, habitually & colloquially people drop the consort part. The two titles don’t have same status irrespective of whether they’re used interchangeably

derxa · 27/02/2024 18:45

wordler · 27/02/2024 18:18

In a weird coincidental twist, Gabriella was the royal who went to Constantine’s funeral as William’s representative last year. As she is also a godchild of his.

This is beginning to make sense. I think William went to see Gabriella. Despite the haters on here I think he is a compassionate man. I see a pattern. Kate Garraway revealed that W&K sent her a lovely letter of condolence. He went to see Deborah James personally just before she died.
https://news.sky.com/story/deborah-james-prince-william-personally-delivers-damehood-to-bowel-cancer-champion-at-her-home-12612502
He went to see Rob Burrow to present his honour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-67946699
He surprised a mum who was doing a charity walk in honour of her daughter who took her own life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clwpey5w809o

Deborah James: Prince William personally delivers damehood to bowel cancer champion at her home

The bowel cancer campaigner said it was "quite surreal" to have Prince William visit her home, joking that the "cleaning antics and preparation went off the scale".

https://news.sky.com/story/deborah-james-prince-william-personally-delivers-damehood-to-bowel-cancer-champion-at-her-home-12612502

EchoChamber · 27/02/2024 18:45

listsandbudgets · 27/02/2024 18:23

This is horrible - and I've only read the first few pages and got depressed

If anyone - male or female came on Mumsnet and said I didn't go to my God fathers funeral today - I just cant cope. My mum died when I was a kid, My Gran died last year and I loved her so much, my dad has cancer, I'm estranged from my brother and his wife, my wife has had major surgery and been really ill with it and the children are upset about it, and everyone thinks my uncle is an abuser... I can't take any more, I just can't do it

How many of you would tell them they were going to do a shit job in their future career (or just that they had the shits?) How many of you would tell them that it's amusing?

OK his family are meant to represent stability but blimey have some compassion

Yes. This a thousand times. Instead it’s just ‘he’s lazy’. Horrible . Meanwhile his appalling brother is off the hook living without any restrictions or responsibility.

Quizine · 27/02/2024 18:46

The media is saying his absence is not connected with TK's sudden death.

So that suggest to me that they KNOW what the reason really is So why all the secrecy?

Must be something other than the shits or a sudden attack of kidney stones.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 27/02/2024 18:46

Kenthighst · 27/02/2024 18:44

Did Lady Gabrielle Windsor not read instead of William? The late Prince of Greece was also her godfather. Hardly if her husband was dying?

Gabriella wasn’t there today.

She attended the funeral in Greece last year representing William.

One of Constantine’s sons read today in William’s place.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/02/2024 18:47

The two titles don’t have same status irrespective of whether they’re used interchangeably

I didn't say they did have the same status. Queen regnant is Head of State, queen consort is wife of the Head of State.

fleurneige · 27/02/2024 18:47

Why do people on MN and elsewhere be obsessed with taking guesses at his reason/s. We will probably know in good time, or not. None of our business.

CarolinaInTheMorning · 27/02/2024 18:47

Andrew is named after the ex kings uncle

But more because this uncle was Prince Philip's father.

Kenthighst · 27/02/2024 18:47

BirthdayRainbow · 27/02/2024 18:25

That's not on the Palace. That's on all the speculators.

Maybe it's because his friend and cousins husband has died.

Well it would be more important for Prince Michael & his wife to leave briskly as the man was their son in law.

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Countrylife2002 · 27/02/2024 18:48

X is absolutely batshit this afternoon!

Zone2NorthLondon · 27/02/2024 18:49

Countrylife2002 · 27/02/2024 18:48

X is absolutely batshit this afternoon!

X is a gossipy cesspit, always

CurlewKate · 27/02/2024 18:49

@listsandbudgets If that person's actual job was doing stuff like this, then yes, I might well say go and do your reading then go straight home. Apart from anything else, if you do that, there'll be less speculation. Particularly as your wife is so well on the road to recovery.

Quizine · 27/02/2024 18:49

fleurneige · 27/02/2024 18:47

Why do people on MN and elsewhere be obsessed with taking guesses at his reason/s. We will probably know in good time, or not. None of our business.

Then why did the Palace make a statement at all? I doubt anyone would have noticed his absence apart from those invited to attend.

And @derxa I do feel he has some compassion, but T K died suddenly on Sunday, today is Tuesday, why the sudden departure within an hour of the service. Doesn't sound right...

Willmafrockfit · 27/02/2024 18:50

no clean shirts

upinaballoon · 27/02/2024 18:50

SandyWaves · 27/02/2024 15:19

Had enough of this family.

Andrew remains in the fold despite him clearly being linked to Epstein. Why do people fawn over these people?

The RF needs to be abolished

Have you contacted the government, to see how you can start the abolition ball rolling?

WimbyAce · 27/02/2024 18:50

Zone2NorthLondon · 27/02/2024 18:49

X is a gossipy cesspit, always

I mean......let's not pretend mumsnet is any different..........

hopefulmummytobe78 · 27/02/2024 18:51

derxa · 27/02/2024 18:45

This is beginning to make sense. I think William went to see Gabriella. Despite the haters on here I think he is a compassionate man. I see a pattern. Kate Garraway revealed that W&K sent her a lovely letter of condolence. He went to see Deborah James personally just before she died.
https://news.sky.com/story/deborah-james-prince-william-personally-delivers-damehood-to-bowel-cancer-champion-at-her-home-12612502
He went to see Rob Burrow to present his honour
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-67946699
He surprised a mum who was doing a charity walk in honour of her daughter who took her own life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clwpey5w809o

It's been said this wasn't the reason.

William is so compassionate he cheated on his pregnant wife!!

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