Cheese and royal gossip 2 , cheese harder

[jeffgoldblum]

A second thread!

Terrible news about Thomas Kingston. The poor guy. And echoes of the son of the Marchioness of Milford Haven (Louis, Lord Mountbatten was the first Marquis of Milford Haven) who shot himself. The Marchioness set up James’s Place as a well being centre for men with mental health struggles. Prince William opened the centre so I can imagine finding out this news earlier this week was not pleasant.

Links to follow, for the lurkers.

James’s story: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/young-student-took-life-days-19238496?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

The Marchioness of Milford Haven: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clare_Mountbatten,_Marchioness_of_Milford_Haven

I've just heard the news rhubarb, very sad 😔

Prince William opening the James’s Place centre: https://www.jamesplace.org.uk/what-we-do/our-centres/liverpool-centre/#:~:text=Our%20Liverpool%20centre%20was%20opened,Highness%20The%20Duke%20of%20Cambridge.

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Indeed. So pulling out of a private memorial service where you know your every word, speech inflection and body movement is going to be raked over and analysed is quite understandable. It wasn’t a public event and it wasn’t his duty to attend. It was an extended family event.

William's mental health doesn't count it seems, @RoyalIyRhubarb . Thank you for the links and information about James and James' Place. Poor lad. And very sad news about Thomas Kingston - so sad for the family. He sounds like he had a very interesting and capable life of service and industriousness.

It is strange how some people want special consideration and concessions for Harry's mental health problems, but William gets cut no slack at all. I think Diana leaned on him a lot, he was 15 when his mother died, such a sensitive age, and he knew about her ups and downs. He shouldered a lot.

Some people enjoy all the gory details so will reward people who share and lack all empathy for those who keep their feelings to themselves.

We are seeing it unfold. William OWES these people an explanation of his whereabouts the other day. Catherine OWES people details on her surgery and pictures of her convalescing now.

Do they receive narc supply from that type of detail? Like they’re feeding on it almost

@AliceOlive and @Maireas I think we keep returning to a recurring theme. The creeping of narcissism into the public space. All fueled by the notion that, unless you are sharing your every thought and deed publicly, you are in fact nothing. The result being a lot of playacting and lip service to a kindness and decency that doesn't actually exist behind closed doors.

X post with @Turtlerussell !

Great minds! 😄

I can remember someone giving me a really awful time at work. About a year later she came back to and apologized. She said I always seemed so confident and it looked like my life was perfect. That it had nothing to do with me and everything to do with her own unhappiness. She said she was jealous. I told her that if she knew the kinds of life struggles I had experienced she would never want to trade places with me. Yes, I smiled at work and apparently looked like I had it together. It was my job! But I have experienced tremendous grief and pain at pretty much every life stage, just like most people, but in some cases I do think it has been worse than average. I just didn't go around telling everyone.

It is idiotic to be envious of anyone. You have NO idea what other people's lives are like no matter how it appears.

I do have to say that I admire more former coworker. I think it takes a person with incredible character to recognize your own mistakes and apologize the way she did. I never thought I would forgive her but even today she is one of the people I most respect in this world just for this single action.

You handled that well, @AliceOlive and we can't help how others behave, we can only manage our response to it. I think people like that must be very unhappy.
It was nice that she acknowledged and addressed it, though.

I too have been on the end of the " it's alright for you brigade" @AliceOlive !
Mine was particularly upsetting, when dh left the forces he joined a company that still went to active war zones ( a lot , for months!) , this meant he got paid a very large amount.
I only worked part time because frankly my wages were less than his taxes.

The jealousy and comments I had to put up with from a particular colleague was awful!

Everyday I smiled and laughed!
Every night I cried and wondered if he was alive, was he coming home!

I never watched the news till recently because, it was torture , this well meaning cow , would come in and say " have you seen the news? Bombs were dropped! , I hope your dh wasn't there! "
What made it slightly stupid was her geography was shit !
He'd be in Afghanistan, the bombs were in Iraq, he'd be in Iraq , the bombs were in Afghanistan!
I've never forgotten or forgiven her!

Oh my goodness! How awful. Just so nasty and unnecessary. No-one has any idea what another person is going through. That's why you should always at least try to be a decent person, you just don't know what anyone's struggles are.

@jeffgoldblum That's truly awful. Some people are unbelievably self absorbed and obsessed with themselves and their "lot".

@AliceOlive You colleague sounds like a decent woman, but you are very decent too to have forgiven her. Many wouldn't.

Indeed! @Maireas , money jealousy brings out the worst in people!!

Maireas, I can't say I handled in well in the moment. She told me that everyone talked about me and everyone felt the same way. And I told her that no matter what I might be, I could never be so cruel as to say things like that to someone, even if it were true. That I would never again walk through my own office without wondering who exactly was talking about me and who hated me.

Then I moved to another building without asking permission and didn't speak to her again until I ran into her in a store one day and she apologized. She had to do it a second time and in much greater detail before I truly believed her. She told me as a result of that day, she had gone into counseling and gotten on an anti-depressant. Then she divorced her husband!

What a nutjob!!!

I will add ! I'm much happier now dh is home , I'd rather have him than pots of money ( although I do miss it occasionally 🤣) .

Oh @AliceOlive , she really was ! And very unpleasant to boot!

The sort that complained about smokers in the pub , then the ban comes in , smokers in the snow and rain outside!
Complains smokers outside pub in the summer! 🙄

Yes I was a detested smoker for many years ! , no apologies, I needed them for the high anxiety and stress I was under.