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portocristo · 2024-02-07T07:17:15+00:00

So Harry flew for 11 hours and then spoke to his father for 45 minutes ? Charles then bobbed to Sandringham by helicopter and Harry checked into a hotel. I mean wouldn't you think Harry would have gone to Sandringham with Charles maybe ?

Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/02/2024 07:27

So we know now why he rushed back after 24 hrs to the USA - it just confirms the whole thing was a stunt - he really is quite pathetic-

he will probably end up with a DVT at this rate - he spends more time on a plane than an airline pilot !

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 07:29

he spends more time on a plane than an airline pilot !

He is a Living Legend of Aviation after all! 😀

Janetime · 09/02/2024 07:41

Another day another award ceremony.

I genuinely think the fact his visit with Charles was so quick validates the reports that he simply got on a plane and then informed his father he was coming, giving him no notice and leaving Charles to delay his departure to sandringham.

and I suspect the pp was right. The reason he got a motorcade to Clarence House but not out again, was so he could get through the traffic.

also it has previously been reported he is supposed to give the palace notice if he wishes accommodation, hence why he likely stayed in a hotel , as there was no notice, he just decided to come without discussion.

it really does appear they spent more time notifying the media than Charles.

which means this is just more of the same behaviour. I genuinely am stunned that anyone would think an unwell and exhausted Charles should have done anything different to what he did. The complete lack of respect from Harry is appalling, as is the fact him and Megan purposefully turned his visit into a media circus.

Wherediditgoto · 09/02/2024 07:50

Janetime · 09/02/2024 07:41

Another day another award ceremony.

I genuinely think the fact his visit with Charles was so quick validates the reports that he simply got on a plane and then informed his father he was coming, giving him no notice and leaving Charles to delay his departure to sandringham.

and I suspect the pp was right. The reason he got a motorcade to Clarence House but not out again, was so he could get through the traffic.

also it has previously been reported he is supposed to give the palace notice if he wishes accommodation, hence why he likely stayed in a hotel , as there was no notice, he just decided to come without discussion.

it really does appear they spent more time notifying the media than Charles.

which means this is just more of the same behaviour. I genuinely am stunned that anyone would think an unwell and exhausted Charles should have done anything different to what he did. The complete lack of respect from Harry is appalling, as is the fact him and Megan purposefully turned his visit into a media circus.

Honestly I feel the two of them are absolutely despicable.

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

cheezncrackers · 09/02/2024 07:59

wildernesssw · 08/02/2024 21:08

I tend to agree with you... after all, he has chosen to use his children's 'Prince/ss' titles. He wouldn't do that if he didn't find it meaningful - despite the 'toxic' nature of the RF...

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The 'Oh so Toxic' RF, without whom he'd be nobody and his DW would, by now, be 'Meghan Markle, the actress who was once in Suits'.

Neither of them will ever willingly give up anything royal-related, because it's all they've got. They pissed away the chance to be relevant for life, as working royals, and chose empty and ever-dwindling celebrity instead.

Janetime · 09/02/2024 08:05

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

Yes that’s very valid. Charles gets diagnosed, and Harry fucks off to vegas to do yet another award ceremony, you could be right. And it’s why they made such a big media spectacle of it and ensured it didn’t go unnoticed.

it also ties in with their previous behaviour…going to collab with the queen. Making sure she had the right people round her. Now flying to be with Charles in his moment of need. It’s all very narcissistic and smacks of Harry really believing in his own importance.

but I think you nailed it.going to Vegas a couple of days after Charles’s diagnoses would have been terrible pr, so he shoe horned in a quick visit so it looked better.

Mylovelygreendress · 09/02/2024 08:11

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

You have nailed it . 👏👏

Mylovelygreendress · 09/02/2024 08:13

Maybe now posters who are slamming Charles for not making more time for the “ prodigal son” will realise it was a cynical move on Harry’s part before he fulfilled his rent-a-royal gig . So tacky.

StormzyinaTCup · 09/02/2024 08:15

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

Absolutely. It's all about the optics and he actual gives not one jot about his dad, his only concern is keeping his title and inheritance.

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2024 08:17

Interesting that Charles decided that it was a less crap option to wait for a while at Clarence House and hasten Harry's arrival with a police escort in order to get a very quick meeting over and done with, than run the risk of Harry pitching up at Sandringham or causing a load of stress over access to the estate.

I am guessing that Charles did not want Harry anywhere near Sandringham. Charles engineered a quick meeting at Clarence House, as tired as he was, in order to nip anything further in the bud. After 12 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever, either Charles or a courtier would have been able to truthfully say, 'the helicopter is waiting to leave now'.

And I'm not surprised that some posters think that duff information might have been planted with Harry to see if it surfaces somewhere and in what form - it's a wryly amusing idea after all that's happened. 'It's my salpingos, dear boy. Shot up with dodgy cells, but never mind, I'll be fine after some quantum therapy. How are the lemon trees coming along?'

Janetime · 09/02/2024 08:22

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2024 08:17

Interesting that Charles decided that it was a less crap option to wait for a while at Clarence House and hasten Harry's arrival with a police escort in order to get a very quick meeting over and done with, than run the risk of Harry pitching up at Sandringham or causing a load of stress over access to the estate.

I am guessing that Charles did not want Harry anywhere near Sandringham. Charles engineered a quick meeting at Clarence House, as tired as he was, in order to nip anything further in the bud. After 12 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever, either Charles or a courtier would have been able to truthfully say, 'the helicopter is waiting to leave now'.

And I'm not surprised that some posters think that duff information might have been planted with Harry to see if it surfaces somewhere and in what form - it's a wryly amusing idea after all that's happened. 'It's my salpingos, dear boy. Shot up with dodgy cells, but never mind, I'll be fine after some quantum therapy. How are the lemon trees coming along?'

I think you’re way off base and are basically thinking harrry had a personality transplant. I’m positive Charles would have welcomed Harry for a visit at sandringham at a suitable time and would never have engineered this media circus.

wildernesssw · 09/02/2024 08:23

The 'rent-a-royal' thing was always their intention, though, wasn't it? The half in, half out' suggestion was because they wanted to be able to do that sort of thing.

If that's what Harry wants to do I wish him every success, I assume he was well paid for it.

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2024 08:31

Janetime · 09/02/2024 08:22

I think you’re way off base and are basically thinking harrry had a personality transplant. I’m positive Charles would have welcomed Harry for a visit at sandringham at a suitable time and would never have engineered this media circus.

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'At a suitable time' being the key. Not after being caught on the hop by Harry being on a plane already on the 6th February.

On the 6th Feb, Charles wanted to be able to go the Sandringham having got the meeting out of the way, hence the police escort for H to speed the whole process up so he could get on the helicopter that bit sooner. Otherwise the police escort palaver would have been completely unnecessary.

Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/02/2024 08:38

Im sure Harry’s children would benefit from a positive relationship with their grandfather ( the king ) and I really can’t fathom why they are being denied this relationship
Is Harry unable to put his children above his own feelings?
I speak from personal experience that although I had a slightly feckless dad he’s actually been a bloody great grandad - I would not deny them that opportunity

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2024 08:41

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

That's a very astute observation.

Janetime · 09/02/2024 08:55

AutumnCrow · 09/02/2024 08:41

That's a very astute observation.

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It is, and it also explains why they went all out to make sure the media knew about it.

how anyone could think Charles was the one who engineered this is beyond me, I’d have thought even the most sycophantic Harry fan would have cringed at trying to make that situation Charles’s fault.

its very clear it’s exactly what’s being reported. Harry did this without discussion , Informed his father at the last moment , disrupted Charles’s schedule when he was feeling ill and made him hang around waiting for him, didn’t want to go to sandringham, but get in and out fast and as publicly as possible, so it didn’t look too bad he was off to vegas etc

smilesy · 09/02/2024 08:56

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

The best optics would have been for him to issue a statement along the lines of how sad and worried he was to hear about his father’s diagnosis but that he was receiving the best care possible and that it was his (Harry’s) intention to depend a few days with him at a convenient time to both of them. His mad dash only served to fuel rumours that the King was more ill than the palace had stated, but then his short visit showed that this was unlikely to be the case as, if the King was very ill, Harry would surely have cancelled all his engagements to stay with his father. So I’m not sure Harry whizzing over improved his optics at all It just made it seem like he has more important things to do than be with his father

JSMill · 09/02/2024 08:58

user1984778379202 · 09/02/2024 07:58

Now we have a good idea why he made the mad dash - because of the optics of him going to Vegas in the same week his father was diagnosed with cancer.

I hope Charles is aware of this and thinks twice next time H shows up on his doorstep.

Wherediditgoto · 09/02/2024 09:01

Lockupyourbiscuits · 09/02/2024 08:38

Im sure Harry’s children would benefit from a positive relationship with their grandfather ( the king ) and I really can’t fathom why they are being denied this relationship
Is Harry unable to put his children above his own feelings?
I speak from personal experience that although I had a slightly feckless dad he’s actually been a bloody great grandad - I would not deny them that opportunity

My guess is that Meghan doesn't want her children around any of Harry's family.. ever.

Janetime · 09/02/2024 09:16

JSMill · 09/02/2024 08:58

I hope Charles is aware of this and thinks twice next time H shows up on his doorstep.

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I suspect they all know. It was already being reported that Charles was unhappy and uncomfortable about the whole thing. So they’d know Harry only came over for the optics. I’m assuming he didn’t want sandringham, or even to be staying there, as he doesn’t have frogmore any more, just get in and out asap.

we had all guessed that it was about the optics due to the fact Harry and Megan publicised it so very heavily. We just didn’t know it was because he was off to vegas. And it would have looked bad with him going to vegas and not visiting his father.

it must be so upsetting for Charles.

JSMill · 09/02/2024 09:18

I think it must be very upsetting for Charles to know that H only cared about the optics.

CoffeeCantata · 09/02/2024 09:25

Lockupyourbiscuits · Today 08:38

Im sure Harry’s children would benefit from a positive relationship with their grandfather ( the king ) and I really can’t fathom why they are being denied this relationship
Is Harry unable to put his children above his own feelings?
I speak from personal experience that although I had a slightly feckless dad he’s actually been a bloody great grandad - I would not deny them that opportunity

I agree. I haven't got any sympathy for H & M, but I hate the thought of their children being cut off from family relationships (on both sides).

Mrsjayy · 09/02/2024 09:42

oh just catching up with the Vegas thing, it gets worse doesn't it? how embarrassing for Harry a visit so he doesn't look bad !

Laiste · 09/02/2024 09:54

Rent-a-Royal

😂

It was always the plan though wasn't it? Just dressed up as something else. ''Half in half out''.

'In' enough to ponse about where ever you fancy being 'royal' and making lots of money out of it. 'Out' enough to have none of the more boring or tricky responsibilities. Like toeing the line, being diplomatic, and standing in the rain cutting ribbons on a new sewage work plant or opening a toothpaste factory.

Does anyone think Meghan ever actually planned to get to the point of doing any of that kind of stuff by the way? I don't.