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So Harry flew for 11 hours and then spoke to his father for 45 minutes ? Charles then bobbed to Sandringham by helicopter and Harry checked into a hotel. I mean wouldn't you think Harry would have gone to Sandringham with Charles maybe ?

😂 liking those portmanteaux, milkshake

I think so too, there were photos of the trio laughing together and having a great time for years. There may be shades of truth though, but also more genuineness... It all depends on what you fixate on

By the way has anyone seen Kate since Christmas Day

What a stupid question

Yes so we are told - she could have been hiding out too (like Meghan) .. since Christmas Day. No one knows if she’s dead or alive or if she will break cover. The UK media haven't got a photo of her yet

What were you expecting? A photo shoot from her bedside? A big public exit from the hospital? The poor woman has had major surgery, we don't need a photo. She's entitled to recuperate in peace

Honestly this place gets more ridiculous every day

Could he be a victim of coercive control? I know someone who is & they have to do as instructed or face serious consequences? Pondering absurdity of 24 hrs in UK.

Did you take a long-haul flight to reach your last holiday destination? How eco-friendly was your hotel? Did your trip benefit the local community? These are some of the questions that Prince Harry wants you to consider when planning your next trip. Vogue India

Those were the days!

It's not just hypocritical though, is it @Janiie, it shows us exactly what kind of people they are. Jumping on a plane to visit the King of England after his cancer diagnosis? Hell yes! Get me on the next plane! Even if he is the father that Harry's spent the past four years slagging off. But a visit to Meghan's dad, who's been in poor health for years and nearly died of a heart attack in the days leading up their wedding? Hell no! Because they get nothing from doing that.

What point? I never said it was a good thing, only pointed out why they do it.

I don't believe the environmental stuff really – that's just armchair moralising. Very few mums on Mumsnet would turn down the opportunity to see their children or family on another continent, or even turn down a free round-the-world holiday, on the basis of the environment.

Anyway, on comfort: I live in the UK but none of my family and close childhood friends do. Anyone who flies across the world regularly knows the discomfort and inconvenience. But for rich people (I'm not one!), it's no different to a short car ride in terms of the physical toll it takes on your body.

I don't believe the environmental stuff really – that's just armchair moralising. Very few mums on Mumsnet would turn down the opportunity to see their children or family on another continent, on the basis of the environment

I think posters are thinking more of the fact that Harry and his travel website are supposed to be proponents of sustainable air travel and environmental concerns. Not transatlantic dashes for short meetings

‘Poor old Thomas Markle’ has said awful things about Meghan, and has encouraged his two older children to say truly egregious stuff. I don’t want to repeat what’s been said it’s so bad. I don’t want to give it any more light or oxygen. Last year, I watched an Australian tv news show called ‘spotlight’ and they featured all three of them - the brother, the sister and father Thomss Markle. The show brought the two of then all together for the first time in many years (they aren’t close either) and Markle was laughing about the shitty stuff his two older children were saying about Meghan.

What parent treats a child so badly?

If I was Meghan, and Thomas Markle was my dad, I’d do exactly what she seems to be doing - staying far far away from him and having nothing to say about him.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · Yesterday 07:37
He received the consequences of his actions. He wrote a tell all book about his notoriously private family and made some quite nasty accusations about William and Camilla. And was not particularly pleasant about his father either.

Yes, I think William is particularly bitter because there once was a close bond between him, Harry and Catherine. H & M (through Omid Scobie) do seem to have had the knives out for Catherine in particular for reasons we can guess at may never know. I don't foresee any chance of a reconciliation, ever, with W & C, and I don't blame them. When friendship is betrayed in this way, it's pretty impossible to mend.

I'm sure we'll be able to read about Harry's 24 hours in London at some future point, in his own (or his ghostwriter's) words.

I don't understand the posters wondering why he didn't see cousins like Beatrice and Eugenie, for example, while he was over. I can think of lots of reasons, but frankly, my own humble life is pretty busy and if someone jetted over with that sort of notice, for that amount of time, I couldn't actually fit them in and I'm not royal. I'm sure Harry has lost many, many friends in the UK as a result of his tragic choices in recent years.

I feel the same way about his as many others on this thread - I'm not condoning him at all - but I feel sorry for him in the sense that he's not very bright (has a mind rather like a toddler, it seems to me) and just doesn't understand the consequences of his actions on any level. When I look in to my crystal ball, I don't see good times ahead for Harry, and it all could have been so different.

Oh and - as for the famous Balmoral picture of the late Queen with her great-grandchildren taken by Catherine - I wouldn't like to be Harry or Meghan when Archie and Lili ask 'Why weren't WE there?'. Hmmm...explain that one. I see problems ahead for those children too - isolated from so many relations and family friends, on both sides. They'll have some awkward questions for their parents one day.

where does she get her gossip I mean i know we are all gossiping but LCC always goes on as if what she says is fact !

Twitter. MN. GMB. Same as lots of the gossip sites.

LCC says a lot of things that turn out to be utter bollocks. Prime example of just because someone says something with confidence it doesn’t mean it’s remotely accurate

In the context, it doesn't matter if it was 12 minutes or 45 minutes, does it?

They are just total hypocrites.

They've badmouthed his family including his father - who is then expected to welcome him with open arms. Thomas Markle has badmouthed them - they cut him off forever.

They preach to everyone who will listen about their environmental credentials - but it's ok for him to fly all those miles to see his father for a few minutes! What a charade!

exactly she is so confident in her "revelations" I mean its probably all nonsense but she must believe it herself to say it out loud.

Keeps LCC on the screens and people talking about LCC…

I don’t think she’ll care if she believes it or not as long as she’s kept relevant in gossip circles

No @LindorDoubleChoc it doesn't, he looked a prize idiot either way!

The Wagatha Christie gambit

My thoughts too. Either there was some paperwork to be signed, possibly relating to PH’s trust fund? Or PC wouldn’t discuss any details about his cancer/treatment/prognosis over the phone so PH dashed over to find out.

Exactly. Ugh, I can't believe there's anyone left to defend Harry anymore.

this is true .

My fingers aren’t in my ears. Harry’s office confirmed yes, he’d spoken to his dad, and that he’d be flying to see him in the next few days. What’s wrong with that?

He had spoken to his Dad because his dad had rung him to tell him. The palace announced this.

Harry announced he’d be coming to see him in the next few days. That was it.

There’s no chance any papers were to do with the line of succession, as some on Twitter are suggesting.

For all his faults Harry is no more likely to more his children up the line by one than William is. And without christening them Catholic he can’t take them out.

So you think no matter how badly people treat their relatives when one of them is ill it should be all forgotten and they should be allowed to visit?

So therefore you must agree that the Sussexes should have visited poorly Markle senior then? or is just when it's the King that it matters, all for the Netflix $$$.

‘Poor old Thomas Markle’ has said awful things about Meghan, and has encouraged his two older children to say truly egregious stuff. .... Last year, I watched an Australian tv news show called ‘spotlight’ and they featured all three of them - the brother, the sister and father Thomss Markle. The show brought the two of then all together for the first time in many years (they aren’t close either) and Markle was laughing about the shitty stuff his two older children were saying about Meghan.

Yeah - you'd think knowing how hurtful that sort of thing is she wouldn't stand by and enjoy the money from shit stirring books by her husband about his family ay?