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The royal family

King Charles has cancer

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CormorantStrikesBack · 05/02/2024 18:01

Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

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Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 15:29

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 15:06

After all, his Uncle Andrew who did his job poorly and was subject to serious, sleazy, allegations, was accommodated in comfort in an enormous mansion on the Windsor estate? Surely Harry was deserving of at least the same respect?

I wish Andrew would fall into a sink-hole, personally -let's be clear about that!! And some of the RF might also feel like that.

But in the real world, there may be more antagonism to Harry within the family because his choices and actions over the last 5 years are sure to be seen as a very personal treachery (not as in Guy Fawkes, but as in betraying his family). And some members will feel he's had the knives out for them particularly.

Having had experience of family fall-outs I know how deep these feelings go - they're not subject to logic or even fairness, usually. It must seem to W and C and maybe Charles and Camilla, that H has dredged up all kinds of grudges and quarrels which are part of family life, put a nasty spin on them and broadcast them to the world for money and attention. Once out there, they can never be taken back and relationships are changed for ever.

I'm just talking about how family members might feel - not suggesting what might be a fair outcome. I really don't think any kind of comparison between Andrew and Harry are very useful - it's an 'apple and orange' scenario. Both will be sources of shame and embarrassment for but totally different reasons.

Fair points CoffeeCantata that’s a very fair and reasonable alternative interpretation.

I just happen to think that C&K and W&K have the full weight of the establishment behind them and it’s a very unfair fight; especially when, as Angrycat2768 set out below, the right wing press inflate every detail of the fight for financial gain and have engaged in what appears to be a sustained and perhaps strategic campaign of hatred against them.

CC49 · 06/02/2024 15:30

SwirlyShirly · 06/02/2024 15:25

Harry has arrived

And Charles has already departed for Sandringham.

Here's your hat; what's your hurry?

scalt · 06/02/2024 15:36

Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 15:03

Yes it also serves the useful purpose of distracting people from the cost of living crisis.

Exactly. While I'm sure it's true, it has "announcement timed to distract" written all over it. I refused to watch any of the three massive royal events we had recently (were they all in less than a year?), while I have the power to refuse to watch them.

Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 15:36

Mylovelygreendress · 06/02/2024 15:06

Not sure if you are aware but W and C lived firstly in Nottingham Cottage before Harry moved in long before he met Meghan . An apartment in Kensington Palace was being g prepared for them but they wanted to move to Windsor and asked for a place in Windsor Castle which was refused . The late Queen offered them Frogmore Cottage . Rumour has it they thought it was Frogmore House. Frogmore Cottage is in fact several houses knocked into one so quite impressive .
Not sure what they had to complain about .

Thank you for setting me right with the details Mylovelygreendress

My main point still stands.

Frogmore Cottage isn’t Gatcombe Park is it?

I thought Frogmore house was terribly delapidated but I could be completely wrong about that.

Daren’t lose my place on this thread to
Google as I find it hard enough keeping up
as it is.

Uricon2 · 06/02/2024 15:36

I am not a fan of a great many of Harry's actions in recent years but he really was damned in this situation, if he came/didn't come and when. I think it's very wrong to attack him for doing what many of us (most perhaps) would ideally do in the same circumstances, which is see his father ASAP. We also have no idea what Charles said when he told him the news.

I do know from sad experience that chemo/radiotherapy can take a terrible toll and while I sincerely hope KC avoids the worst effects of treatment, Harry coming now while his father is robust seems a better idea than leaving it until down the line, when his arrival would have caused even more speculation. Whatever, they are father and son and I hope that the visit will be a comfort to them both.

MaturingCheeseball · 06/02/2024 15:41

Far from the “right wing press” criticising Harry, they seem to be welcoming him home like a conquering hero.

I wonder, do Supporters on here hope that H&M re-enter the rf fold and have some role?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 06/02/2024 15:42

Not with vitriol @goodbyestranger ? Really? Post after post about a single, near 30+ year old, much misinterpreted conversation that was more or less hacked, containing a bit of cheesy banter between consenting adults.

The fact remains that my view of the guy is that he's weak, dim, puerile and really pretty revolting on phone calls and that view is not now going to change.

Pull the other one.

JewelleryCat · 06/02/2024 15:42

CC49 · 06/02/2024 15:30

And Charles has already departed for Sandringham.

Here's your hat; what's your hurry?

Is he? I thought he was at Clarence House with Camilla

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 15:43

Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 15:36

Thank you for setting me right with the details Mylovelygreendress

My main point still stands.

Frogmore Cottage isn’t Gatcombe Park is it?

I thought Frogmore house was terribly delapidated but I could be completely wrong about that.

Daren’t lose my place on this thread to
Google as I find it hard enough keeping up
as it is.

Frogmore house isn’t remotely delapidated. Frogmore cottage did need work.

Frogmore Cottage isn’t Gatcombe Park, but Anne wasn’t offered a 20+ room ‘apartment’ in Kensington Palace either. So it’s swings and roundabouts.

They weren’t offered Frogmore at first. That only came after they declined one of the largest apartments at KP

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 15:44

JewelleryCat · 06/02/2024 15:42

Is he? I thought he was at Clarence House with Camilla

He was. Sky news literally just showed him being driven down the Mall. Guessing that’s what the helicopter is for - to go to Sandringham.

but there’s no “Charles ran away before Harry got there” story - he’s literally just left.

Mirabai · 06/02/2024 15:46

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 15:06

After all, his Uncle Andrew who did his job poorly and was subject to serious, sleazy, allegations, was accommodated in comfort in an enormous mansion on the Windsor estate? Surely Harry was deserving of at least the same respect?

I wish Andrew would fall into a sink-hole, personally -let's be clear about that!! And some of the RF might also feel like that.

But in the real world, there may be more antagonism to Harry within the family because his choices and actions over the last 5 years are sure to be seen as a very personal treachery (not as in Guy Fawkes, but as in betraying his family). And some members will feel he's had the knives out for them particularly.

Having had experience of family fall-outs I know how deep these feelings go - they're not subject to logic or even fairness, usually. It must seem to W and C and maybe Charles and Camilla, that H has dredged up all kinds of grudges and quarrels which are part of family life, put a nasty spin on them and broadcast them to the world for money and attention. Once out there, they can never be taken back and relationships are changed for ever.

I'm just talking about how family members might feel - not suggesting what might be a fair outcome. I really don't think any kind of comparison between Andrew and Harry are very useful - it's an 'apple and orange' scenario. Both will be sources of shame and embarrassment for but totally different reasons.

Save us from the treachery hooey.

His wife was being bullied by the U.K.media and public to an unprecedented degree.

So they left, which is fair enough. They have a hefty security bill to pay, given what happened to his mother, and what the outgoing met chief described as “disgusting and very real” threats to life.

So they signed a bargain with the devil in the shape of a Netflix deal and a book. What else have they got to sell but the family silver? Harry’s not the brightest button and his entire job history is in the military. Ordinary jobs with charities etc will not pay for megabudget security or the kind of lifestyle to which royals are accustomed. Both his parents dished the dirt on each other via media interviews and books, so he’s pretty much following the family tradition

I don’t feel ashamed of any of these people as they’re nothing to do with me. I do feel ashamed of this country’s treatment of Meghan though, and it will not wear well historically.

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 15:48

LittleGlowingOblong · 06/02/2024 12:09

Yes, the lack of best wishes from Sunak
to the future Queen is so odd. They are not even fabricating well-wishes from her to the King. And Camilla didn’t visit her in the Clinic.

The Royal Family is basically a scripted reality show with expensive production values… and the script has broken down.

How do you know Camilla didn't visit Kate in the clinic? There were reports that Charles and Camilla went to see her before Charles went for his procedure. Nobody else was sighted visiting her, not her parents, her siblings, her children. Do you seriously think she lay in hospital for two weeks and nobody went to see her?

Can't the family have this little bit of privacy without busybodies falling over themselves to make shit up?!

And Sunak did send good wishes to the King and the Princess of Wales two weeks ago!!

Roussette · 06/02/2024 15:49

I wonder, do Supporters on here hope that H&M re-enter the rf fold and have some role?

God, no. It won't happen and it shouldn't happen.

GreenBottleHanging · 06/02/2024 15:53

Uricon2 · 06/02/2024 15:36

I am not a fan of a great many of Harry's actions in recent years but he really was damned in this situation, if he came/didn't come and when. I think it's very wrong to attack him for doing what many of us (most perhaps) would ideally do in the same circumstances, which is see his father ASAP. We also have no idea what Charles said when he told him the news.

I do know from sad experience that chemo/radiotherapy can take a terrible toll and while I sincerely hope KC avoids the worst effects of treatment, Harry coming now while his father is robust seems a better idea than leaving it until down the line, when his arrival would have caused even more speculation. Whatever, they are father and son and I hope that the visit will be a comfort to them both.

Exactly this.

For christs sakes he’s his dad. They’ve fallen out over various things but it doesn’t mean they don’t love each other and that one doesn’t give a shit about the other. It’s insane to me how people can spin such vitriol over a son coming to see his sick father.

mayorofcasterbridge · 06/02/2024 15:53

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:23

In fairness it is a bit odd - the total withdrawal from public duties by William I mean.

I get Kate needing recovery time , but William stepping back too, it is not the norm for Royals to do this- or is it? The King is obviously very ill, however, Camilla still goes on and will go on with her public duties.

William and Kate have a different way of handling things. They also have 3 young children. The King and Camilla do not. Until he was diagnosed the King probably didn't know he was ill, and indeed was seen entering and emerging from hospital and going to church on Sunday. Entirely different scenarios.

JewelleryCat · 06/02/2024 16:00

So if he is going to Sandringham which presumably he is, will he be having treatment there if he needs any or come back to London?

Bouledeneige · 06/02/2024 16:01

Bit surprised the BBC had Harry arriving at Clarence House at 3.21pm and Charles and Camilla leaving at 3.49pm. So I'm hoping he's following to Sandringham as otherwise it's a long way to come from California for a 25 minute chat?

jeffgoldblum · 06/02/2024 16:03

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CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 16:04

Mirabai
Save us from the treachery hooey.
I don’t feel ashamed of any of these people as they’re nothing to do with me. I do feel ashamed of this country’s treatment of Meghan though, and it will not wear well historically.

Very dismissive. But if you actually read my post, you'll find that I was talking about how the RF might feel.

I thought that was clear, but hey. Hence this bit:

I'm just talking about how family members might feel - not suggesting what might be a fair outcome. I really don't think any kind of comparison between Andrew and Harry are very useful - it's an 'apple and orange' scenario. Both will be sources of shame and embarrassment for but totally different reasons.

And the bit where I say I don't mean 'treachery' as in Guy Fawkes, but in a personal way to friends and family.

But I'm getting used to feeling I speak a different language from some people on here.

Mylovelygreendress · 06/02/2024 16:06

Mirabai · 06/02/2024 15:46

Save us from the treachery hooey.

His wife was being bullied by the U.K.media and public to an unprecedented degree.

So they left, which is fair enough. They have a hefty security bill to pay, given what happened to his mother, and what the outgoing met chief described as “disgusting and very real” threats to life.

So they signed a bargain with the devil in the shape of a Netflix deal and a book. What else have they got to sell but the family silver? Harry’s not the brightest button and his entire job history is in the military. Ordinary jobs with charities etc will not pay for megabudget security or the kind of lifestyle to which royals are accustomed. Both his parents dished the dirt on each other via media interviews and books, so he’s pretty much following the family tradition

I don’t feel ashamed of any of these people as they’re nothing to do with me. I do feel ashamed of this country’s treatment of Meghan though, and it will not wear well historically.

If the situation was so bad why did they want the half in / half out option ?

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 16:07

JewelleryCat · 06/02/2024 16:00

So if he is going to Sandringham which presumably he is, will he be having treatment there if he needs any or come back to London?

I think they'll do as much as possible at home to avoid the need for security disrupting other patients/families and to prevent the photographers getting snaps of him looking rough (if he does).

Bouledeneige · 06/02/2024 16:08

I would imagine Megan is in a bit of a difficult spot. She doesn't like her in-laws at all. But Harry will naturally be torn by concern and care for his father and will want to be back in England at least more frequently than before. It puts a pressure on their new life and cutting all ties with the 'toxic' royal family.

CC49 · 06/02/2024 16:08

Bouledeneige · 06/02/2024 16:01

Bit surprised the BBC had Harry arriving at Clarence House at 3.21pm and Charles and Camilla leaving at 3.49pm. So I'm hoping he's following to Sandringham as otherwise it's a long way to come from California for a 25 minute chat?

I would assume so, but I suppose we'll find out soon.

I wonder where he'll be staying. I assume they waived that "30-day requirement to stay at a Crown property" rule.

Bouledeneige · 06/02/2024 16:11

What's the 30 day requirement ?

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