King Charles has cancer

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Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

Did deletion not dissuade you from continuing this personal beef?

What the hell do you mean by that? So you don't like how I post or what I post?
Is that what you're saying?
If I break TG, report me, but up until then I'd be grateful if you would just leave me alone and stop 'observing' me.
I don't comment on your posting style or what you post, I don't observe you, because I am not interested in the poster but the post content. I suggest you try it.
This thread is about 'King Charles has cancer' not Roussette has posted lots about H&M.
So just jog on.

Although I hope this leads to a reconciliation between Harry and his family, I find all the media focus on Harry returning to be over the top and annoying. I've just had a Sky News alert about a helicopter landing at Buckingham Palace! What about the other members of the King's family who are undoubtedly giving him quiet and private support - his other son, his brothers and sister, his wife..... it's not all about Harry. He's not some conquering hero returning.

Thanks Rousette

I very much admire btw the way you handle all the flak you get on these threads. It’s brave to stick to one name and then get accused of being “all over the royal threads like a rash” which isn’t necessarily true in comparison with many other contributors, it’s just that your name is more recognisable.

Reported for troll hunting

I think the media are simply reacting to what people want. Lots of people here saying they don’t care about some rich old man yet they’re still commenting and joining in. Thousands of comments on news websites and all over socials.

People claim they don’t care, but the engagement is excellent revenue for the media. People do care. They love the drama. If they didn’t, the media wouldn’t focus on it because it brings them no revenue. It’s a big money spinner because so many people want to bitch, gossip and speculate.

Well said @ArcaneWireless .

And likewise, many posters have swooped in to make this about William being a lazy bastard and Catherine being an abused wife, but I don’t see anyone defending Harry also trying to defend them too at this time of worry. No sympathy or manners for the eldest son and the king’s much loved daughter in law.

Harry was first introduced to this thread about 7 posts in by people looking forward to King Harry. If his name has entered this thread, it’s from his own supporters.

I’m pretty surprised that anyone who has read the vitriol aimed at Charles on countless threads would be convinced of the sincerity of those who suddenly are taking the morally superior position over his health.

Yes it also serves the useful purpose of distracting people from the cost of living crisis.

@Cosmiccrash485 . Thank you. I have just had a red mist descending, but it's receded now! Phew 😂

@Cosmiccrash485 - you have very rose-tinted spectacles about H&M. Roussette, surely you are better than applauding a post like that. “Nailed it”? Nailing colours to the mast, more likely.

After all, his Uncle Andrew who did his job poorly and was subject to serious, sleazy, allegations, was accommodated in comfort in an enormous mansion on the Windsor estate? Surely Harry was deserving of at least the same respect?

I wish Andrew would fall into a sink-hole, personally -let's be clear about that!! And some of the RF might also feel like that.

But in the real world, there may be more antagonism to Harry within the family because his choices and actions over the last 5 years are sure to be seen as a very personal treachery (not as in Guy Fawkes, but as in betraying his family). And some members will feel he's had the knives out for them particularly.

Having had experience of family fall-outs I know how deep these feelings go - they're not subject to logic or even fairness, usually. It must seem to W and C and maybe Charles and Camilla, that H has dredged up all kinds of grudges and quarrels which are part of family life, put a nasty spin on them and broadcast them to the world for money and attention. Once out there, they can never be taken back and relationships are changed for ever.

I'm just talking about how family members might feel - not suggesting what might be a fair outcome. I really don't think any kind of comparison between Andrew and Harry are very useful - it's an 'apple and orange' scenario. Both will be sources of shame and embarrassment for but totally different reasons.

Harry was first introduced to this thread about 7 posts in by people looking forward to King Harry. If his name has entered this thread, it’s from his own supporters.

When I saw the ridiculous King Harry nonsense, I though 'how juvenile'.. it wasn't from any poster I recognised.

Not sure if you are aware but W and C lived firstly in Nottingham Cottage before Harry moved in long before he met Meghan . An apartment in Kensington Palace was being g prepared for them but they wanted to move to Windsor and asked for a place in Windsor Castle which was refused . The late Queen offered them Frogmore Cottage . Rumour has it they thought it was Frogmore House. Frogmore Cottage is in fact several houses knocked into one so quite impressive .
Not sure what they had to complain about .

There are many people who have great knowledge about the Royal Family and the British Constitution. Unfortunately they seem to be missing from Mumsnet.

I thought it was a fair analysis. Why do I have to be better than what I consider really could be how it happened? Sorry, don't get it.

Maybe you need to ask Sky News why they reported on it, and why print newspapers continue to focus on Harry and Meghan, feigning outrage at every little thing they do, making every utterance and appearance into a major news event? Its because the more they whip up outrage about these two, the more money they can make from click throughs on their articles. They are the two members of the RF who garner the most interest in the papers, like it or not. Newspaper editors couldn't give a damn about the Royal Family, or how upset they are about Harry and Meghan calling them racists. They are riding on public outrage to make money. Once Harry and Meghan are irrelevant, they will dig into their archives for whatever dirt they have on another Royal, or start criticising one of the others. Reporting Harry flying in from the US will drive an avalanche of traffic to their sites by the professionally outraged to say 'How dare Harry come/not come/come so soon/not come soon enough!' and they coin it in.

You forgot about the years of free childcare before you get packed into a home!!

@Angrycat2768

Absolutely. Hating on H&M is a multi million dollar industry. Very many RRs, journos, reporters, print media, authors and more... make a lot of money pitching the right story to wind up the british public with outrage about H&M.

Some of the RF need to make sure it lasts before it's their turn. Sadly, I don;t think it's going away any time soon. Just Harry flying in to UK to come and see his father who has had a cancer diagnosis is enough to inflame, with suggestions he stays away which is horrible.

The media are going to be relentless about every detail of any royal or any possible royal atm.

They're trying to fill shit loads of time with no new information.

The DM this morning had an article about Princess Beatrice being "spotted leaving Clarence House". With a shit-tonne of waffle and then a line saying she was spotted driving out an exit at CH that was "also the entrance to her St James' Palace apartment".

I guess "Beatrice drives out gate she drives out every day" didn't have the same impact to their headline writer.

Yes. Possibly I do wear rose-tinted spectacles towards H&M, let’s face it none of us know for sure what went on do we?

I dislike seeing people, whoever they are, being subjected to a global campaign of bullying, especially by the likes of Murdoch. Dislike the posho omertà. And the establishment closing of doors.

I dislike being sold a particular narrative.

Aren’t we British meant to stick up for the underdog?

I fail to see what significance there is relating to when Charles found out? I presume before Monday, seeing as he had his first treatment then, and he will obviously have spoken to his family members before any public announcement. Not worth arguing over it!

I think it's disingenuous to object to the (civilised) discussion of Harry in relation to the developments with Charles's health. Of course Harry is relevant to this new situation. The King is estranged from his son and suddenly becomes ill - you'd be a very odd person if it didn't cross your mind about how that situation might affect their relationship.

All this 'I knew someone would mention Harry!' is silly. Well, duh! I haven't seen anyone spouting hate, (an oft-used exaggeration), only reasonable criticism and speculation.

And yes - we are allowed to speculate on public figures and their relationships. No-one's said anything objectionable as far as I can see - no-one's wished harm on either poor, ill Charles or his estranged son. It's natural to wonder how a changed situation will affect what has happened between father and son, especially when they're public figures and the quarrel has been such a public one.

Not when the underdog arrives with a motorcade and a fleet of RangeRovers. Strewth. I’m sick of the useless idiot. To think I actually thought fair enough when he and Meghan “stepped back” . Can’t he wish Pa well and then go off to sort out the African charity debacle?

Hello again Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar.

I’m pretty surprised that anyone who has read the vitriol aimed at Charles on countless threads would be convinced of the sincerity of those who suddenly are taking the morally superior position over his health

For my part I said my piece about Charles on a single recent thread. Not with vitriol either. There's no doubt that the things I said were well founded, chiefly that his adultery caused a lot of misery and also that he was pretty low, wheeling out Nicholas Soames to be his mouthpiece immediately after the Bashir interview had finished airing. I don't have a high opinion and I'm quite free not to be persuaded otherwise.

I then ceased all posts about Charles once the 6pm statement had been made.

I haven't made any particularly solicitous noises about Charles's health either. I haven't written any post wishing him well (although I don't wish him ill). All I have done is to call out a poster for her seeming determination to make this about Harry.

You guys really seem incapable of understanding very straightforward posts: no irony, no hypocrisy, no lack of sincerity - nothing to see here so stop trying to manufacture things which simply aren't there.

Harry has arrived