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King Charles has cancer

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CormorantStrikesBack · 05/02/2024 18:01

Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

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CC49 · 06/02/2024 12:12

LittleGlowingOblong · 06/02/2024 12:09

Yes, the lack of best wishes from Sunak
to the future Queen is so odd. They are not even fabricating well-wishes from her to the King. And Camilla didn’t visit her in the Clinic.

The Royal Family is basically a scripted reality show with expensive production values… and the script has broken down.

Rishi Sunak sent Catherine his best wishes on January 24.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/rishi-sunak-kate-middleton-king-charles-hospital-b2483976.html

Sunak sends ‘best wishes’ to King Charles and Princess of Wales over health concerns

Rishi Sunak sent his "best wishes" to King Charles III and the Princess of Wales regarding their health. His Majesty is preparing to undergo treatment for an enlarged prostate this week, and Kate has spent a week in hospital being cared for as she reco...

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/rishi-sunak-kate-middleton-king-charles-hospital-b2483976.html

BoohooWoohoo · 06/02/2024 12:13

I think Harry was right to announce that he was going to visit his father. No announcement would have meant weeks of clickbait about how cruel Harry was being.

A message from Prince of Wales wouldn’t have stopped speculation. Sussex squad have been punishing the domestic violence/divorce rumours for years and wouldn’t stop even if Kate herself did a video message.

Delphigirl · 06/02/2024 12:15

smilesy · 06/02/2024 12:11

That she can’t speak. As opposed to doesn’t want to. You don’t know anything. You have surmised. As for not seeing William, he is out and about tomorrow so you can have a gander then

I didn’t make that up because I did not present it as fact. I was careful to say that it is an inference that could be drawn.

WestwardHo1 · 06/02/2024 12:15

Iwanttogo · 06/02/2024 11:42

[8] Prince Charles called her chubby
Diana: The bulimia started the week
after we got engaged. My husband put
his hand on my waistline and said,
“Oooh, a bit chubby here, aren’t we?”
And that triggered something in me.
And I remember the first time I made
myself sick, I was so thrilled. Because I
thought, “Right, this is the release, the
tension.” (00:31:07 – 00:31:25)

Source Vol. 8 No. 1. Januari 2022 LADY DIANA'S CONSTRUCTED ...

But if that had happened - if it happened exactly as she said - to someone mentally healthy and robust, it would not have "caused" their bulimia. For lots of reasons, including her dysfunctional childhood, Diana was not mentally robust. If she was, she'd have never have thought she and Charles were suited, for a start. The reasons for EDs are complex.

And I am not blaming her.

LittleGlowingOblong · 06/02/2024 12:15

@smilesy I think both engagements might be behind closed doors? An investiture and an indoor gala?

@Stringagal if Camilla did pop in, she’d have every PR incentive to inform the press of this.

Maybe I’m overthinking but in hindsight now it seems a bit odd that the initial KP announcement specified that the POW’s condition wasn’t cancer? Why say this? It’s not the obvious conclusion to jump to from “abdominal surgery”.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/02/2024 12:16

Very interesting that few of you will address my point and instead spout nonsense or shout “nasty!” In a childish fashion

Probably because you don't have a 'point' - just fevered and frankly deeply unpleasant inanities that are an insult to the intelligence.

LittleGlowingOblong · 06/02/2024 12:17

@CC49 I missed that, thanks

Bouledeneige · 06/02/2024 12:18

I don't really think we have a right to know what's wrong with Kate or what type of cancer Charles has. Really? Providing more information does not satisfy the media or these boards - it feeds it and leads to further speculation.

So if we discovered Kate had a hysterectomy due to endometriosis do you think we'd all just then keep a respectful silence? No everyone would be speculating on the impact of menopause on her physical and mental health. Ad infinitum....

If you listen to the BBC Sounds Podcast 'When it hits the fan' they talk about how PR is handled in crises and one of their observations is that the Royal family are good at knowing when to say nothing or not much.

And from a human level why would you want everyone to know what's going on in your body and how you are feeling day by day. Being sick is miserable and you don't need to see everyone rolling in the muck if your illness. Not every private interaction needs to be shared publicly - I'm sure William and Kate have passed on their concerns to Charles - we don't need it reported to us.

smilesy · 06/02/2024 12:19

Delphigirl · 06/02/2024 12:15

I didn’t make that up because I did not present it as fact. I was careful to say that it is an inference that could be drawn.

Edited

How? On what evidence? As pp have said, a statement has been issued that she is progressing well and will return to duties around Easter. With a subtext of “fuck off and leave us alone for a while”. Why do you think she owes you a statement as to how she is doing? Just so everyone can say “Ooh she still looks peaky” or “nothing wrong with her don’t know why she has had all this time off”? Her body, her choice what she says. You are inferring something unpleasant out of thin air

Laiste · 06/02/2024 12:20

Wait! Where are we now?
Kate's fallen out with Camilla?
Kate has fallen out with William?
Kate has stormed off and they're pretending it's an illness?
Kate's been bound and gagged somewhere?

I think the difference between the way KC's illness has been handled and the way Katherine's surgery and recovery has been handled is probably down to their personal wishes.

If Kate wants it all private then that's fine. She's had an op. She doesn't want it discussed. It's a few weeks out of her schedule and that's that.

The King is the King and he's elderly and he's going to have to have ongoing treatment which less likely to be able to be kept hush hush. Better to be honest.

Propertylover · 06/02/2024 12:21

Roussette · 06/02/2024 12:08

Oh don't be so ridiculous!

This will have been a carefully managed exercise. Family first. Then a thought out statement to the public.

I agree it will have been carefully thought out.

However, I would not trust H & M and OS to keep anything confidential. I would include that in my decisions who to tell what and when.

I love my Mum but I know 100% she can never keep things to herself no matter how much you ask her not to tell anyone. There are therefore things I don’t tell her for that reason.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/02/2024 12:21

You are inferring something unpleasant out of thin air

Two posters in particular are doing this and seem determined to try and spread their conspiracy theories about what's going on with HM and the PoW.

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:23

Delphigirl · 06/02/2024 12:08

We don’t know how William looks or what he has said or how he has gestured because he has not been seen or heard for weeks. That’s the point.

In fairness it is a bit odd - the total withdrawal from public duties by William I mean.

I get Kate needing recovery time , but William stepping back too, it is not the norm for Royals to do this- or is it? The King is obviously very ill, however, Camilla still goes on and will go on with her public duties.

Outthedoor24 · 06/02/2024 12:23

Cosmiccrash485 · 06/02/2024 11:01

I very much agree that the entire institution needs to be dialled back. No one needs 12 or 14 residences (it depends how you count them) like KC even if half of them are state buildings.

Edited to say that we don’t know for sure what Wills will do or what style of monarchy he favours because he hasn’t had a proper crack at the job as yet. I think there’s every chance, thanks to his mother embracing charitable causes like homelessness and his focus on mh, that it will all be a lot more low key.

I’m afraid the late Queen although born for the job didn’t do enough innovating and stripping back. Everyone is saying there aren’t enough family members to cover the roles they are expected to do, but why not cut back many of their patronages and annual events too? Let the entire institution cut back the number of engagements they do, the number of properties they own and the number of family members taking on the role. It’s not rocket science! The tree needs pruning in every direction, not just snipping off at the top!

Edited

While I sort of agree nobody needs multiple residences they aren't exactly in the position of being able to book into the nearest Travel Lodge.

They need security and they also need to be able to provide secure accommodation for other foreign dignitaries.

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 12:25

Hopefully the silver lining is that this can bring the family back together. Life is short after all

I see a kind of reconciliation between Harry and his father, but not with other family members (esp not William and Catherine - bridges have been well and truly burnt there) and not where Meghan is concerned.

I think that Charles would be glad to have Harry back in touch, but I can also see that it will stir up trouble with other family members who feel they've been the subject of a vendetta by Harry and Meghan. I'm sorry, but with the most optimistic view of human nature, I don't see W and C ever being at ease with H & M again.

I'm sure that the wider family (W, C, Anne for eg) would regard H & M re-entering the RF as a further opportunity for them to gather material for more attacks, and just wouldn't be prepared to meet them unless in the company of witnesses/courtiers and lawyers.

Angrycat2768 · 06/02/2024 12:27

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:23

In fairness it is a bit odd - the total withdrawal from public duties by William I mean.

I get Kate needing recovery time , but William stepping back too, it is not the norm for Royals to do this- or is it? The King is obviously very ill, however, Camilla still goes on and will go on with her public duties.

William is not known for breaking into a sweat over anything. He probably took it as an excuse to have a couple of weeks off, got his PR to spin some old crap about him doing the school run and juggling the kids, and now its all come back to bite him on the bum as everyone thinks his wife is in a coma/has had a mental breakdown after he left her/having plastic surgery etc. If he wasn't so lazy he could have been out and about like Camilla, and just said 'Kate's doing well and gives her thanks for all the well wishes.

smilesy · 06/02/2024 12:29

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:23

In fairness it is a bit odd - the total withdrawal from public duties by William I mean.

I get Kate needing recovery time , but William stepping back too, it is not the norm for Royals to do this- or is it? The King is obviously very ill, however, Camilla still goes on and will go on with her public duties.

The Queen carried on with her duties whilst the King was having (what was then) a relatively minor procedure. It was made clear as soon as the princess went in to hospital (for what was a more major procedure), the prince would be stepping back to be with her and their children. William is back on duty tomorrow. Now the King has a more serious diagnosis and is beginning treatment, it is possible that the Queen will step back a bit as well 🤷‍♀️

Angrycat2768 · 06/02/2024 12:30

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 12:25

Hopefully the silver lining is that this can bring the family back together. Life is short after all

I see a kind of reconciliation between Harry and his father, but not with other family members (esp not William and Catherine - bridges have been well and truly burnt there) and not where Meghan is concerned.

I think that Charles would be glad to have Harry back in touch, but I can also see that it will stir up trouble with other family members who feel they've been the subject of a vendetta by Harry and Meghan. I'm sorry, but with the most optimistic view of human nature, I don't see W and C ever being at ease with H & M again.

I'm sure that the wider family (W, C, Anne for eg) would regard H & M re-entering the RF as a further opportunity for them to gather material for more attacks, and just wouldn't be prepared to meet them unless in the company of witnesses/courtiers and lawyers.

I agree I don't think the rest of the family will have much to do with them, but courtiers? They leak everything and anything. We already have them queuing up to tell all and sundry what The Late Queen thought. They are usually the 'sources close to the family'.

CC49 · 06/02/2024 12:30

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 12:25

Hopefully the silver lining is that this can bring the family back together. Life is short after all

I see a kind of reconciliation between Harry and his father, but not with other family members (esp not William and Catherine - bridges have been well and truly burnt there) and not where Meghan is concerned.

I think that Charles would be glad to have Harry back in touch, but I can also see that it will stir up trouble with other family members who feel they've been the subject of a vendetta by Harry and Meghan. I'm sorry, but with the most optimistic view of human nature, I don't see W and C ever being at ease with H & M again.

I'm sure that the wider family (W, C, Anne for eg) would regard H & M re-entering the RF as a further opportunity for them to gather material for more attacks, and just wouldn't be prepared to meet them unless in the company of witnesses/courtiers and lawyers.

I don't see any meaningful reconciliation unless Harry and Meghan divorce. Even then, I imagine Harry would remain in the States (as his children will likely reside there and he'll want to be near them.)

Honestly, I don't even see a detente in their relations. They'll continue to lob passive-aggressive remarks at Catherine, William, and Camilla via Scobie for the rest of their lives.

Roussette · 06/02/2024 12:34

@Propertylover
I honestly think it's a bit different to your Mum, mine was the same!

Charles having cancer is a constitutional problem, within no time, news media were talking about line of succession or whatever. If you think that Harry would issue a statement about his Father having cancer and throw it out to the world, you really have bought into something a bit odd!
Brearing in mind the good wishes from Presidents and Monarchies all over the world since the news has broken, it's hardly likely he would do that. And he didn't did he? Because quite rightly, family should know first and no doubt that is what happened.

Roussette · 06/02/2024 12:35

Angrycat2768 · 06/02/2024 12:30

I agree I don't think the rest of the family will have much to do with them, but courtiers? They leak everything and anything. We already have them queuing up to tell all and sundry what The Late Queen thought. They are usually the 'sources close to the family'.

Yep. There's more holes in courtiers' silence than a string vest.

Lochroy · 06/02/2024 12:38

I get Kate needing recovery time , but William stepping back too, it is not the norm for Royals to do this- or is it? The King is obviously very ill, however, Camilla still goes on and will go on with her public duties.

It isn't the norm, but I'm not sure there's been a precedent for a relatively young senior royal with a young family to have something as serious as to require two weeks in hospital.

Anyway, it's already been announced that William is to return to duties.

Hopefully that a sign that Kate's recuperation is going well.

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:40

Angrycat2768 · 06/02/2024 12:27

William is not known for breaking into a sweat over anything. He probably took it as an excuse to have a couple of weeks off, got his PR to spin some old crap about him doing the school run and juggling the kids, and now its all come back to bite him on the bum as everyone thinks his wife is in a coma/has had a mental breakdown after he left her/having plastic surgery etc. If he wasn't so lazy he could have been out and about like Camilla, and just said 'Kate's doing well and gives her thanks for all the well wishes.

Hence the rumor mill has gone into over drive.

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:41

smilesy · 06/02/2024 12:29

The Queen carried on with her duties whilst the King was having (what was then) a relatively minor procedure. It was made clear as soon as the princess went in to hospital (for what was a more major procedure), the prince would be stepping back to be with her and their children. William is back on duty tomorrow. Now the King has a more serious diagnosis and is beginning treatment, it is possible that the Queen will step back a bit as well 🤷‍♀️

Makes perfect sense.

CC49 · 06/02/2024 12:43

januaryjan · 06/02/2024 12:40

Hence the rumor mill has gone into over drive.

Has it, though? I haven't seen Catherine mentioned on the news in a week or more, and none of my friends or family have brought it up as a topic of conversation. Perhaps the "chronically online" are in overdrive, but aren't they always?

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