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The royal family

King Charles has cancer

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CormorantStrikesBack · 05/02/2024 18:01

Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

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Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:14

notthatthis · 06/02/2024 04:22

He is 75, he looks more like 85. If he is having treatment, chemo / radiotherapy, I think he is too frail for that. I am very doubtful that the outcome will be positive. I also think if his disease isn't metastatic and if he is having curable treatment, they would not have said anything.

It's very difficult to say that someone looks older or younger than they are, or that they look their true age. However, even if you can confidently make such assertions, it doesn't mean anything. Some people do just look older than they are but it has nothing to do with health, and bear in mind that close up television shots are unflattering. Many people think I look older than I am (and tactlessly tell me so), yet my fitness level is moderate, much higher than that of a friend, my age, but who looks a lot younger than her age. She considers a two mile walk to be a long one, while I regularly clock up 8 miles a day without thinking about it. On days when I swim or cycle, walking distance is less but I walk to and from the pool, 3 miles, in addition to swimming a mile. My young looking friend thinks that's an example of extreme fitness, which it certainly is not.

x2boys · 06/02/2024 10:14

MaturingCheeseball · 06/02/2024 10:03

I agree, Thunderbird7. I read the news last night when I got in and immediately underneath was that Harry was flying over immediately. So any message of positivity was lost.

Also agree with pp that it is a twisted person indeed who can’t feel sorry for Charles, who has endured an absolute shedload of stress these last few years. I know my mother, very seriously ill, was solely focused on dsis, who had wrecked our family. I’ve said a billion times (at least!) how I detest the Prodigal Son story.

Well he's not your "prodigal " son he's King Charles son and the king may well want I'm to come over
Lets face it if Harry stayed in California he would have people sniping at him whatever he does people will find fault

Janetime · 06/02/2024 10:15

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:11

Sorry you missed it, but yes he knew from early last week.

You're talking without that knowledge.

Even doing these things as fast as possible, the results from biopsies take 5-6 days.

I doubt very much that KC was saying he had cancer before the results were available.

I’m not going to engage with you further, as I find your behaviour odd. The palace has separately confirmed that Charles has known since early last week.

TheWalrusStoletheShow · 06/02/2024 10:15

I think given the amount of press criticism that Harry got for not publicly wishing Catherine or his father well during their recent hospital stays - he probably felt he had to get in front of this. Otherwise he would have been hung drawn and quartered in the Press - 'Charles shock cancer diagnosis and not so much as a fruit basket from Montecito' etc.

Have to remember this is also his only surviving parent. No matter the bad blood between them, this diagnosis is bound to have hit hard. We are all used to the seemingly unproblematic longevity of the Queen and Prince Philip well into their nineties. A cancer diagnosis, however treatable, makes you question your mortality and brings it home how fleeting and transient life really is.

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 10:16

Goodbyestranger

Yes, possibly I am. But I'm genuinely looking at it from my experience - and while I'm not saying H is being selfish, he might be being a bit insensitive. I've had situations where I've known people push themselves on very sick people, more for their own sake than the ill person's.

But we're all different and an immediate visit might be what Charles wants. If I was him though (which I'm not!!!😅) I'd be saying 'It would be lovely to see you - how about in a week or so?' As I say, it's not as if Charles is on his way out just yet!

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:17

@notthatthis He looks far from frail.

Like his brothers and his sister, they have very weathered skin because they spend time outside on horses and farming.

He's actually very fit and active. He's slim, supposedly works out every day ad eats very healthily.

The reason (IMO) that they have had to declare his illness is because the treatment may cause hair loss, and fatigue, so people would start to speculate.

Citrusandginger · 06/02/2024 10:19

@Mylovelygreendress @LillythePinky

It looks like the diagnosis was confirmed last week and that there has been a step by step process of who to tell in what order.

I can't say I'm totally surprised that a wealthy man who lost his mother in childhood, is flying over to see his father who has had a significant diagnosis. Even with a rift, which H has previously indicated he wishes to heal.

The King remains ‘wholly positive’ after cancer diagnosis

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/05ab82d4-f2ed-454f-91a2-3b3b06154bbf?shareToken=4042ce98d52309d45eab3c39944573d2

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:21

@Janetime What is odd is that you seem to take offence at anyone questioning your 'insider knowledge!'

The Palace has said no such thing although if you'd like to post their announcement, that would be appreciated.

What they have said is that cancer was found as a result of the other surgery he had. It doesn't mean that they were aware of the exact diagnosis on the same day he had surgery.

Please stop posting misinformation.

Janetime · 06/02/2024 10:22

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 10:16

Goodbyestranger

Yes, possibly I am. But I'm genuinely looking at it from my experience - and while I'm not saying H is being selfish, he might be being a bit insensitive. I've had situations where I've known people push themselves on very sick people, more for their own sake than the ill person's.

But we're all different and an immediate visit might be what Charles wants. If I was him though (which I'm not!!!😅) I'd be saying 'It would be lovely to see you - how about in a week or so?' As I say, it's not as if Charles is on his way out just yet!

again, why are you assuming it’s an immediate visit. Or that Harry found out at rhe same time roughly as the public? It is hugely likely Harry found out last week, agreed with his dad to come over, and the palace announcement coincided with that. I really doubt everyone found out on the same day, more his family will have known a few days before the public announcement. They may even have known he was going to have tests when the public didn’t.

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:25

@Citrusandginger The Times is behind a paywall so no point posting it.

People are missing the nuances with all of this.

Yes, something was spotted when he had surgery.

But, as anyone who knows anything about cancer diagnosis with family or friends will tell you , anything of concern needs analysis.
This usually takes days for confirmation and grading of the cells (I know- friends been through it at top private London hospital.)

Janetime · 06/02/2024 10:26

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:21

@Janetime What is odd is that you seem to take offence at anyone questioning your 'insider knowledge!'

The Palace has said no such thing although if you'd like to post their announcement, that would be appreciated.

What they have said is that cancer was found as a result of the other surgery he had. It doesn't mean that they were aware of the exact diagnosis on the same day he had surgery.

Please stop posting misinformation.

Ok for the last time , as this is ridiculous and I do not know why you seem to find it so incredulous that Charles would know he had cancer a few days before he told the world or that his kids would, he even started treatment in Monday, he’d had the first treatment before it was announced.

you genuinely believe he was told in the morning, whipped in for treatment in rhe avo , out put a statement immediately told his kids at the same time, and all the media outlets publishing he knew from early last week and the palace have confirmed are lying?

as said, last time.

Dolphinsong · 06/02/2024 10:28

LittleTeawithmilk1 · 06/02/2024 08:24

We, the GBP, made this man walk behind his mother's coffin at age 15 and greet complete strangers, hysterically wailing at him about how upset they were that his mum died.
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Actually I don’t know if this is correct. As I remember it the GBP demanded the Queen respond and come back to London and lower the flag etc., but I really don’t remember any demands from the public to see Diana’s boys.

Apart from a few crazies, I think the people were quite shocked and just very saddened to see W&H walking behind their mother’s coffin, and before that at the gates of KP looking at all the flowers.

I think the demands made of the Queen, and the presence of the boys, has become conflated in peoples memories.

I could be wrong though.

I don’t think the public has a right to know why Kate is sick or what cancer Charles has. And I do understand William &Kate setting boundaries (or returning to old ones) about what the public will be told. (Especially given all the publicity surrounding his mother’s very public death, funeral and the coroners inquests and investigations).

If it is over between William & Harry then they would be showing little or no respect for the memory of their mother. Princess Diana would definitely not tolerate this type of behaviour and she would step in and do her utmost to heal the rift. This is why I don't believe their relationship is over. I cannot imagine them disrespecting their mother in this fashion.

mybrainisfull · 06/02/2024 10:29

sorry, haven't read the full thread.
Do we know what kind of cancer it is?
I would imagine bowel or bladder if it was discovered during prostate surgery??

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/02/2024 10:30

Hopefully the silver lining is that this can bring the family back together. Life is short after all

I don't disagree, but we don't know what's gone on behind the scenes and what William's position on the whole thing is - and in the not too distant future William was always going to be "it"

As for disease/possible symptoms not having been picked up before, let's not forget Charles - like his late mother - is a huge believer in homeopathy, and might easily have believed that a bit of pointless water would help.
Medical screenings are all very well, but after all nobody can be forced to use conventional treatment

beguilingeyes · 06/02/2024 10:31

TheWalrusStoletheShow · 06/02/2024 10:01

@beguilingeyes You can't just post that you now have to tell us!

But I don't know! He's not giving anything away.

Dolphinsong · 06/02/2024 10:31

Dolphinsong · 06/02/2024 10:28

If it is over between William & Harry then they would be showing little or no respect for the memory of their mother. Princess Diana would definitely not tolerate this type of behaviour and she would step in and do her utmost to heal the rift. This is why I don't believe their relationship is over. I cannot imagine them disrespecting their mother in this fashion.

Sorry, wrong quote.

LittleTeawithmilk1 · 06/02/2024 10:34

CoffeeCantata · 06/02/2024 10:16

Goodbyestranger

Yes, possibly I am. But I'm genuinely looking at it from my experience - and while I'm not saying H is being selfish, he might be being a bit insensitive. I've had situations where I've known people push themselves on very sick people, more for their own sake than the ill person's.

But we're all different and an immediate visit might be what Charles wants. If I was him though (which I'm not!!!😅) I'd be saying 'It would be lovely to see you - how about in a week or so?' As I say, it's not as if Charles is on his way out just yet!

This is between a son and his father. In my opinion we should leave them to it.

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:38

Mylovelygreendress · 06/02/2024 07:54

Once more - there is no such person as the King of England.

There is no proof that the King of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and the Commonwealth is dying.

medianewbie · 06/02/2024 10:39

MrsSkylerWhite · 06/02/2024 10:02

Mojodojocasahaus · Yesterday 19:05

“Ah I feel sorry for the fella, waited all his life to have a crack at the top job and gets cancer in the first year. Hopefully they’ve caught it early. He will certainly get the very best treatment”

Yep, wish him well too as I do all of those with a diagnosis. Just a great pity that they won’t all be receiving the same standard of treatment.

Agreed. My Mother deserved prompt & efficient treatment, so did I (mine was a scare but I was on a 2ww pathway for 2 months even to be scanned, then biopsies etc. Cancer survival rates are better than 50 years ago, but standard of care is poorer than 20 years ago.

LittleTeawithmilk1 · 06/02/2024 10:39

LillythePinky · 06/02/2024 10:25

@Citrusandginger The Times is behind a paywall so no point posting it.

People are missing the nuances with all of this.

Yes, something was spotted when he had surgery.

But, as anyone who knows anything about cancer diagnosis with family or friends will tell you , anything of concern needs analysis.
This usually takes days for confirmation and grading of the cells (I know- friends been through it at top private London hospital.)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-king-has-cancer-bqztmc93k

The King, who learnt of his condition last week, is understood to have made calls to share the news with his two sons, the Prince of Wales and Duke of Sussex, and his siblings, the Princess Royal, the Duke of York and the Duke of Edinburgh.

this is from the times article.

CathyorClaire · 06/02/2024 10:41

Playing catch up as always but:

when the king of England is dying....

Is he?

All the reports I've seen suggest his illness has been caught early, he's started treatment and everyone's pretty blue sky about his prospects.

smilesy · 06/02/2024 10:42

mybrainisfull · 06/02/2024 10:29

sorry, haven't read the full thread.
Do we know what kind of cancer it is?
I would imagine bowel or bladder if it was discovered during prostate surgery??

No the type of cancer has not been revealed

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:46

goodbyestranger · 06/02/2024 09:32

I would have thought a phone call and for him to ask when would be a good time for a visit would have been more appropriate??

CoffeeCantata you are entirely dismissing the very real possibility that Charles said I'd absolutely love you to come as soon as you can. That would be a completely normal response.

@goodbyestranger How do you know Harry hasn't done just that?

WatchOutMissMarpleIsAbout · 06/02/2024 10:49

I’m no fan of Harry but he’s damned in some people’s eyes whether he comes or not.

He comes - making it about himself or
He doesn’t come and is heartless.

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:50

Idontpostmuch · 06/02/2024 10:46

@goodbyestranger How do you know Harry hasn't done just that?

Oops sorry @goodbyestranger. Did it in a hurry and addressed comment to you by mistake.

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