Indifference to PoW?

[FaiIureToLunch]

I find it strange that there’s no real interest or concern from the public about POW being in hospital. Nobody seems to be that bothered. If you compare it to the circus if Diana had been in the same situation….. I just find it odd. I always thought she was relatively popular because we’re constantly told she is but actually…. Tumbleweed.

I know it’s her own business etc but it just feels quite odd that somebody can disappear and there is no interest in why. I don’t really know or care what’s happened or why, but the silence is really intriguing. It reminds me of when the brexit referendum happened and I had no idea that there was such strong feeling about the EU…. I had no idea that there was such apathy about the PoW until now. It’s been a real eye opener for me.

I reckon the next generation or two, the monarchy will be gone.

Okay, William is constantly there in total secrecy 🤣🤣🤣 Because obviously he wants to hide the fact he's visiting his wife in hospital, it being such a strange and unusual thing to do. Downright weird in fact. Good job Camilla is brave enough to address the shocking stigma of entering a medical building where your supposedly loved one lies ill.

Of course KP leaks, that's not even in doubt. Most of it being briefings against whoever they don't like this week of course.

@Alltheprettyseahorses but if the children are visiting, POW wouldn’t want cameras being thrust in their faces if they are worried about their mum

But visiting your spouse in hospital isn't work although it could be described as duty. Why wouldn't you want your partner and kids to visit? Especially as we're being fed the line the future monarch is just like us and has such a close, devoted and loving family with no rifts to be seen.

Seriously though, I genuinely do think William is really sly not going to see his wife. He should be there every day, it's not like he's even doing anything else. And I'll leave it there because here be dragons.

We don’t get photos of them doing the school run apart from on the first day of term, doesn’t mean they don’t do the school run or the children only go to school one day a year!

For Camilla it clearly IS work, otherwise it wouldn't be photographed and reported on.

And again, you have no idea if William is visiting Kate or if Kate wants visitors.

Life happens even if it isn't photographed and published in the Daily Mail.

@GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut glad to hear your experience was better than my mothers.

Radical hysterectomy on Thursday morning, home on Friday despite being in agony and not really being able to walk properly. Before the operation we were told that because of other health complications she’d be in ICU for at least 24 hours which then turned into 3 hours.
Two weeks of excruciating pain, and calling GP, oncology nurse before someone finally decided it was probably not normal and should be looked at, resulting in a 14 hour wait in another hospital and emergency surgery for a strangulated hernia - which the surgeon believes was caused by the first operation. This time two days in hospital and sent home despite concerns about oxygen levels.

Glad your experience was more positive, but it doesn’t invalidate my mother’s.

For Camilla it clearly IS work, otherwise it wouldn't be photographed and reported on.

Indeed. For her first visit she went in and out of the front door, even, when back entrances were available.

And if she hasn’t wanted him to visit for the what? 2 weeks she is supposed to be in hospital. What does it say?

What does it say that even her dcs haven’t been visitting ‘as to not disturb their routine’? I mean I’m pretty sure my dcs would have been pretty disturbed to not see me for 2 weeks… 🥴🥴 And it’s not like they can lie to them and say she is travelling instead!

Just now they are doing damage limitations for whatever is actually going on. You have the most wild rumours going from PW having hit her to KM suffering from anorexia and needing to be hospitalised. To off comments about her MH.
The fact they are not even trying to stop them speaks volume imo.

And to answer the OP, no I don’t think KM is popular. She is appreciated as a royal. But she doesn’t have a real connection to the public.
But the reason why she isn’t on the front page is because the RF asked for an embargo and journalists/newspapers so far have followed. Like they usually do.

What does it say that even her dcs haven’t been visitting ‘as to not disturb their routine’? I mean I’m pretty sure my dcs would have been pretty disturbed to not see me for 2 weeks… 🥴🥴 And it’s not like they can lie to them and say she is travelling instead!

From the London Clinic’s website, by the way:

• Children: for the safety of our patients, we do not permit any children or babies to visit. Any special requests for children to visit must be approved by the Matrons. If approved, children must be accompanied by a responsible adult who will look after them throughout the visit.

Children will understand rules. And not being able to physically see their mother doesn’t mean they haven’t been in contact with her, of course.

My parents had a wonderful marriage and he still hated her visiting him!

The first time he had surgery for bowel cancer I was 7 and honestly I was fine. I didn't get it. If the kids are busy at school and everyone at home is being very calm about it then they're probably fine too. Quite possibly less distressing than seeing her sick or in pain while she gets over major surgery.

But the most likely explanation is that they've visited without being photographed. I don't know why so many are refusing to acknowledge that possibility.

The two couples have very different aims at the minute. Kate wants to preserve her privacy, Charles and Camilla want to convey that he's well and they're deeply in love.

People probably have other things to think and worry about than what is, at the end of the day, a random woman in hospital.

If I was going to worry about random people and their medical treatment I would be more worried for all the people being failed by the NHS and their waiting lists, and not someone who I know will be getting the best treatment imaginable.

Maybe he’s is visiting in secret to avoid inane questions from journalists and photographers every five minutes. And to avoid assumptions such as if he is seen visiting all the time, she must be very ill. Again, just because he hasn’t bothered to inform you personally every time he visits, doesn’t mean he hasn’t. The King has been in all weekend and we have only seen Camillla there once, as we did with William. Has she not been to visit again? Or do we actually not know because she has been discreet? When Prince Philip was in hospital several years ago (pre Covid), I don’t believe we knew if the late Queen visited him or not. It’s not up to you to call out their wish for visits to remain private or assume they haven’t been visiting just because you haven’t seen them.

When Prince Philip was in hospital several years ago (pre Covid), I don’t believe we knew if the late Queen visited him or not

Philip famously didn't want visitors. Perhaps PoW is the same and she's facetiming the DC then lying in bed with a podcast on, a pile of magazines to read and catching up on Netflix.

@Serenster you think theyd stop the future Queen from seeing her dcs?😂😂

I’m thinking they may not want to be seen to be getting special treatment, actually. And it’s easier to explain to a child that they are not allowed to visit.

And to avoid assumptions such as if he is seen visiting all the time, she must be very ill.

People just assume other things instead. Which include her being very ill btw
esp as no decisions re what to say, which information to ‘leak’ is thought out to the max.
But they are clearly happy with those 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

I saw a report which says he has been there daily but is going via a private entrance not the front door. He agreed with the press after the initial coverage that they'd give him privacy.

Usually they go via the front door for the benefit of the press but there's clearly other entrances that other patients and staff use.

Just because he's not arriving with a fanfare doesn't mean he's not going or not taking the children.

There's no way her parents won't have been visiting regularly too but we haven't seen them either.

I guess it depends on what you perceive to be interest

Thread after thread followed the initial news, but most were just filled with silly speculation and people pretending to "know" and we can surely do without that

If there's any real news it'll doubtless all start up again, but for now there's really nothing more to say beyond "hope she's okay"

I read somewhere the surgery didn't go as planned. Further complications. Could be something very serious. I'm glad she's not on the front of every tabloid. Wishing her well x

I am very confused about what you want people to do? Spend a lot of money leaving flowers to die outside the hospital?

This generation is about not creating unnecessary waste I don't see it as apathy.

I also think leave the poor woman alone - it must be dreadful to feel you have to announce to the world you are having abdominal surgery and for everyone to wonder exactly what abdominal surgery you are having and why.

I see it as not lack of interest in the monarchy but a maturity of people thinking public figures are also human beings and deserve some level of privacy.

I do somewhat agree with you. People are saying it is out of privacy, but I personally think people don't really care. As a family, the POWs keep their distance from the public, which means the public will feel less connected to them = less interested. Most of the people who do show interest in this are only doing it for entertainment rather than actual concern or affection/care.

FaiIureToLunch, I think you are right in the sense that, news blackout or not, things would have been different if Diana had been in a similar situation. That has to do - in part - with Diana cultivating a relationship with the general public which was quite unusual for a royal. She wore her heart on her sleeve and seemed to want to be validated and uplifted by the crowd - and that did generate a response.

Catherine, on the other hand, has made it clear from her comments in her engagement interview onwards that her close-knit family give her a strong sense of her own identity and worth. She does not 'need' the public like Diana did. She does what she has to do but it's only a job.

I care, I've been feeling rough for a couple of months and on occasion have thought of her with sympathy. Being in hospital recovering from surgery is just horrible, doesn't matter who you are, you will probably be in pain or discomfort, feeling tearful, missing your children etc

My DH was pretty ill a few years ago and no children were allowed to visit because of infection control.

Of course William, her parents and siblings will be visiting, some people are just peculiar and slightly spiteful making such assumptions.

That has to do - in part - with Diana cultivating a relationship with the general public which was quite unusual for a royal

Not to mention the press.

Just like all the other members of the RF.