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Desperate2023 · 18/01/2024 10:03

Wishing, Princess Kate a speedy and full recovery from me and my family.
Looking forward to Kate and William doing their bit for the UK soon.
A great family that is adored around the world.

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CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 09:17

Christmasnutcracker · Today 09:03

half the country now think Kate is in a coma somewhere.

No they don't. Only on MN and other conspiracy theory sites might just a couple of per cent of people think anything so ridiculous.

Fgs.

MaturingCheeseball · 07/02/2024 09:26

I wonder if some people are as nasty in real life as they are on the internet?

CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 09:37

I hate all the stuff about workshy William etc etc.

It's like people who think teachers work from 8 am to 3.30 pm. Or that barristers only work while they're in court (my son works 16 hour days).

The appearances in fancy clothes are the 'flower on the compost heap' and surely anyone who's worked in the real world knows how much time and effort and preparation goes into these public events. Briefings, rehearsals, lots of homework/reading, travel to and from etc.

Love the RF or hate them, but please don't try to claim the only 'work' for the short time you see them on the TV. Plus the horrendous stress which must take a toll (knowing you can't even scratch your nose without it getting on the front page of the tabloids, never mind look a bit mis for a minute - or people will say your marriage is on the rocks!).

spriots · 07/02/2024 09:52

@CoffeeCantata extraordinary then how much work Anne, Edward and Sophie manage, they must barely sleep

CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 10:30

spriots
You'll have to explain a bit more. I'm sorry - I don't understand your point.

Christmasnutcracker · 07/02/2024 10:56

CoffeeCantata

Gosh yes I’d say the Wales do easily as much but in reality far more work than others including teachers.

. They are working both day and night and the number of hours behind the scenes must be colossal. They give the impression they have phone calls, write back to other heads of state (or at least proofread and add their signatures), getting fitted for their clothes, practicing speeches, lots of preparing for trips, family meetings, PR briefs, keeping fit to fit aforementioned clothes, learn about their associated charities, learn about doing their next roles, keep abreast of current affairs, go on aforementioned trips which in reality must be exhausting, and on top of that parent three children.
I read recently that Kate even has to rent a house to host play dates which she has to organise too.

Of course they are well reimbursed for their gruelling work but I’d say not many eg NHS workers would switch roles with them.

mrsmingleton · 07/02/2024 12:24

Some people on here who seem obsessed with a family they hate - it's pretty sad really.

Lookingatthesunset · 07/02/2024 12:44

Christmasnutcracker · 07/02/2024 09:03

be obtuse - silence to the public, not visible to the public. They're a public facing family, and the lack of visibility is unusual. Of course we don't need to be told whats wrong - but the behaviour of them all compared to usual is noticeable.

Another post on a thread made the wonderful observation that workshy William took the opportunity of Kate being sick as a way to shirk off for a few weeks as he would instead be doing the school runs and helping the full time nanny and numerous part time childminders do their jobs. It has bitten him in the ass as half the country now think Kate is in a coma somewhere.

Half the country does not think that - only a few halfwits!!

CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 12:52

mrsmingleton · Today 12:24
Some people on here who seem obsessed with a family they hate - it's pretty sad really.

Yes - I've always found the 'haters' (sorry - awful over-dramatic word) are keener to comment than the RF supporters. If you're not a hater, you will be called a serf, a peasant, forelock-tugger etc...when most people just mildly support the constitutional monarchy as being the least worst of all possible worlds, and don't usually give them much thought. But I can't bear rubbish being talked online, so I add my bit and really I should ignore it!

And there is affection for them with many people - especially since they go through their lives and rites of passage etc in public. We can all empathise with illness in a family, but most of us don't have to deal with it in public.

Angrycat2768 · 07/02/2024 13:21

Lookingatthesunset · 07/02/2024 12:44

Half the country does not think that - only a few halfwits!!

Ever heard of hyperbole? Most of the country don't give a shit about the RF, which is more of a problem for them than people taking about them!

spriots · 07/02/2024 13:31

CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 10:30

spriots
You'll have to explain a bit more. I'm sorry - I don't understand your point.

If Princess Anne can do three times as many engagements as Kate and twice as many as William, with this incredibly onerous behind the scenes work at her age, when does she sleep?

Angrycat2768 · 07/02/2024 13:42

spriots · 07/02/2024 13:31

If Princess Anne can do three times as many engagements as Kate and twice as many as William, with this incredibly onerous behind the scenes work at her age, when does she sleep?

William and Kate have 60 staff, plus a CEO to organise all the staff. Between them they have about 250 engagements a year. Many ofvthem joint, and many 10 minute phonecalls. If William and Kate are doing any more than reading cribnotes, what are the 60 staff doing?

spriots · 07/02/2024 13:46

Angrycat2768 · 07/02/2024 13:42

William and Kate have 60 staff, plus a CEO to organise all the staff. Between them they have about 250 engagements a year. Many ofvthem joint, and many 10 minute phonecalls. If William and Kate are doing any more than reading cribnotes, what are the 60 staff doing?

I agree with you - I think it's pretty clear that both William and Kate are workshy

Christmasnutcracker · 07/02/2024 14:04

I agree with you - I think it's pretty clear that both William and Kate are workshy

I know most parents don’t want to but William and Kate want to spend as much time as possible with their three children. Ok they have staff to do the school runs and help with their homework but the Wales want the children to have as normal a life as possible and normal is having two parents around the home as much as possible - doing the cooking, homework and bedtimes. . That’s good of them really. Normal enough surely.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 07/02/2024 14:22

William and Catherine will be working royals until William dies. Another 50 + years potentially.

He grew up in a shitty household, borne of one parent who had a shitty, DV household, and another who was sent to a horrible boarding school where he was bullied and barely saw his parents because one of them became the monarch when he was 3. They have years of service ahead. Breaking the cycle of fucked up royal children by actually spending decent time with him should be regarded as a good thing, shouldn’t it?

Those criticising them: if you knew you were going to work until you dropped dead, and had the option to devote quality time to your kids until they come of age, wouldn’t you do it?

spriots · 07/02/2024 14:29

I think you can be good involved parents while not taking as much time off work as these two do. And Kate in particular didn't even do many engagements pre children either.

But anyway, I thought their defenders thought they were slaving away on preparing for engagements? Or is it time with children now?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 07/02/2024 15:04

Why is it one or the other? Staying close to home (ie not travelling around for public engagements while Catherine recuperates) , working at home on prep, calls, meetings etc, being with the kids outside of their normal school hours and spending a decent chunk of hands on time with them. Not exactly stretching the imagination, is it?

Serenster · 07/02/2024 15:15

If William and Kate are doing any more than reading cribnotes, what are the 60 staff doing?

Not run a large organisation, have you? One that has a large media presence, plenty of events to organise, regulations it has to comply with - they will need at a minimum IT, Press office and communications, governance, HR, Finance, Procurement, operations and facilities management, administrative staff, personal staff (i.e. nanny), senior staff like their private secretaries and juniors below that. It’s a lot, trust me.

Christmasnutcracker · 07/02/2024 15:33

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 07/02/2024 14:22

William and Catherine will be working royals until William dies. Another 50 + years potentially.

He grew up in a shitty household, borne of one parent who had a shitty, DV household, and another who was sent to a horrible boarding school where he was bullied and barely saw his parents because one of them became the monarch when he was 3. They have years of service ahead. Breaking the cycle of fucked up royal children by actually spending decent time with him should be regarded as a good thing, shouldn’t it?

Those criticising them: if you knew you were going to work until you dropped dead, and had the option to devote quality time to your kids until they come of age, wouldn’t you do it?

Do they have to work until they ‘drop dead’ though? I’m fairly sure they can change the rules of the monarchy to pass it on at a certain age and for the new king/queen of England to do the same. Similar to other European royal families. But then it goes without saying the British royals are superior.

I think it’s great that even though they are incredibly, incredibly busy that they can do sports and keep fit so they can live as long as possible. The public appreciate that and it’s a particularly good example of the importance of health which benefits the NHS. (Although I suppose it is kind of sad that the NHS employees don’t have the time to do that themselves but maybe they will aim to do better and prioritise their own health and well being by following William and Kate’s excellent example).

They are superb superiors and we should all aspire to be like them in whatever way we can.

Angrycat2768 · 07/02/2024 15:51

Serenster · 07/02/2024 15:15

If William and Kate are doing any more than reading cribnotes, what are the 60 staff doing?

Not run a large organisation, have you? One that has a large media presence, plenty of events to organise, regulations it has to comply with - they will need at a minimum IT, Press office and communications, governance, HR, Finance, Procurement, operations and facilities management, administrative staff, personal staff (i.e. nanny), senior staff like their private secretaries and juniors below that. It’s a lot, trust me.

Oh come on they are not running a large organisation. Each household has its own staff. They are running their own household of minimal events. If each of the Royal households has hundreds of staff to organise a total of 8 people doing charity events then this is exactly where the slimming down should be. The size of their households are ridiculous. Especially if the Royals are actually doing all the research andcprep for their visits.
And re: most parents aren't as unbelieveably amazing as William and Kate and hate spending time with their children God forbid we may want to feed and clothe our children or keep a roof over their heads. If only those things were so out of our experience to us we only had to do it as some ' common people' cosplay when we felt like it!

Serenster · 07/02/2024 15:57

I’m going off the recent job description for their CEO role though.

Samcro · 07/02/2024 16:01

if W&K and by extension the rest of the working royals are working so hard. why do they have ceo's and things like that.
how can they just stop suddenly working?

Serenster · 07/02/2024 16:09

Their job description to be honest wasn’t really that of a traditional CEO in my opinion - they are really looking for a COO (Chief Operating Officer) rather than Strategic Leader. But you have to make it an attractive job title to get the best candidates I guess!

In essence, the Royals fill the Strategic Leader/CEO role and front the organisation (with private secretaries as senior adivisers), and then delegate management of operations and other key functions etc to a very senior employee. Depending on the Board and governance structure, that’s not uncommon.

Christmasnutcracker · 07/02/2024 16:37

spriots · 07/02/2024 14:29

I think you can be good involved parents while not taking as much time off work as these two do. And Kate in particular didn't even do many engagements pre children either.

But anyway, I thought their defenders thought they were slaving away on preparing for engagements? Or is it time with children now?

But unlike other parents, Kate and William are doing both. They are full time parents (albeit with a 'little' help from their full time nanny and numerous part-time childminders) AND they work incredibly hard representing the RF at numerous events, taking phone calls, signing pre-written letters, showing up for garden parties and even a few high profile evening events like the royal pantomine performance. On top of that Kate even photographs the children herself AND cooks for the children sometimes They manage to keep fit and immaculately groomed on top of all that work and in return they just take a holiday in Cornwall, a ski holiday the school summer holidays in Amner and their holidays in the Carribean. I'd say there are wealthy families that go on far more holidays than the Wales.

OolongTeaDrinker · 07/02/2024 18:31

CoffeeCantata · 07/02/2024 09:17

Christmasnutcracker · Today 09:03

half the country now think Kate is in a coma somewhere.

No they don't. Only on MN and other conspiracy theory sites might just a couple of per cent of people think anything so ridiculous.

Fgs.

Not sure about that actually -a few people were discussing it at work today and we are not usually a royal family discussing/conspiracy theory loving office. It's very mysterious. Some of points raised were the PoW hasn't been seen since xmas morning; there was a vehicle that looked like a private ambulance seen leaving KP on 28th Dec; where are the usual crowds of well-wishers when a royal is in hospital; and why haven't the usually publicity loving Middleton family been seen visiting the hospital when she was there.

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