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It sounds like a very elaborate subterfuge. How about she was actually in the London Clinic and the police were there because of that? The simplest explanation is often the correct one As is always said about outlandish theories, a lot of people would have to be in the know about said subterfuge and the likelihood of someone spilling the beans is very high

Entirely possible either way smilesy.

@Serenster - re the agenda concerning Kate. There is also the nickname "Katie Keen" (a character in the Archie comics) promulgated by Scobie in Endgame.

@OrangesLemonsLimes If, as you believe, Catherine is suffering from mental health issues, doesn’t the fact that she’s having this time off; and the RF, as you assert, are providing a smokescreen for her privacy, somewhat disprove your theory that the RF don’t give a shit about the her mental health? If they didn’t give a shit, surely they’d be forcing her into a load of engagements she doesn’t feel mentally fit to do, and denying her treatment? It’s not benefitting the RF at all to have her out of action. And if she is having a mental breakdown, as you believe, does it occur to you that this might be because of the stress caused to her with a lot of unfounded and wholly unsubstantiated allegations about her character and her marriage, courtesy of those who support the Sussexes, rather than from anything anyone in the RF has done?

Just because I and others don't dislike Harry & Meghan with a vengeance, does not mean I and others on here have caused Kate to have a mental breakdown, if she has had one. It isn't black and white and not everyone who feels like I do has spread 'unsubstantiated allegations about her character and her marriage'.

An unpleasant assertion from you.

Where does that poster accuse you directly or anyone else on MN for that matter?

It's quite clear what they're referring to.

I'm interested as to why you appear to take everything so personally, and seem to believe every post is aimed directly at you.

She was being downright nasty. There was no need whatsoever to throw that up. Mean and vicious. No excuse!

@RocketsMagnificent7

Good to hear it's no one on MN. My mistake then.

Ah. An advocate of women’s rights.

You’d think that would include being supportive of a woman’s right to medical privacy or accepting the given statement instead of making up shite to fit a narrative.

As an aside, the only time I thought I was seriously ill - and chose to seek help, it was dismissed as hysteria and mental illness.

It wasn’t.

No one is saying the King had an issue with his mental health and they covered it up with prostate problems are they?

Isn't it funny how mental illness is often the go to when questioning the actions of women? Despite there being a statement given as to the reason for hospitalisation? Which in turn was probably only given to stop speculation like this or causing distress to her kids/family with puerile gossip.

I wonder if she’d have preferred to keep the whole matter private. As would have been her right. You know? A woman’s right.

Nothing will ever change with regards to mental illness with this type of attitude. Necessary to create subterfuge? Alluding it to be some kind of shameful secret that she would have to lie about? Or accusing someone of suffering when there is no proof - like a snidey little insult?

Why is her word not enough? It should be.

Women’s rights advocate? My arse.

Who is asserting that you personally could possibly have anything to do with any possible MH issues the princess could
possibly have? There are certainly some on social media who have made very unpleasant comments about the princess. Obviously there are many, including you Roussette, who have not. That doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened but you don’t need to be so personally offended

edited to add cross posted with Rocket. Was making the tea and didn’t post straight away 😆

And aye Roussette. I bit. No excuses.

Sometimes it is necessary. I never said I was perfect!

Probably not the time for a gif re George Bernard Shaw…

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar, without joining in with any one suggestion about what precisely is Kate's health issue - although the options aren't huge - I don't see that the corollary of what you say is that the rf is actually solicitous of the mental health of those who marry in. But on the hypothesis of a breakdown, it could well be that Kate needed time off because things came to a head and that she needed help before now. Or possibly they have actually learnt from Diana and Meghan (although Nicholas Soames' appalling contribution to the post Bashir discussion suggests that Charles had a long way to go to understand these things).

If anything relating to her marriage has caused struggles then I would suggest William might want to look at his own part in that, before MN posters are required to examine their conscience.

smilesy

No need to repeat about me being 'personally offended' when I answered this at 17.52, did you not see it?

Yes and I explained at the bottom of my post that I had cross posted if you read to the end. So no, I didn’t see it until I had posted and then I edited as per my post 😊

unfounded and wholly unsubstantiated allegations about her character and her marriage, courtesy of those who support the Sussexes.

I could be wrong, but I am assuming the poster is alluding to Scobies' book and the horrible things he said about her.

I find posts like yours, either totally weird, or a piss take.

I was addressing the poster I addressed not you @Roussette . The clue is in the tag.

She is the one positing the assertion that a/ Catherine has had a mental health episode, b/ this is caused by the actions of the RF and c/ that they are not getting her help. I am not positing the assertion at all, I am questioning its logic and the possibility that, if the initial assertion is true, then the rest doesn’t follow; since time off belies the no help argument, and the assertion that the RF is the cause can be questioned by the recent attacks on Catherine and the possibility that this may be the trigger (ie a mere month after she was branded a racist by Omid Scobie, and once again her character and marriage questioned).

I am sure @OrangesLemonsLimes can speak for herself.

It wasn't clear milkshake
You talked of 'those who support' the Sussexes and as I am more on that wavelength than disliking them, I made a wrong assumption.

Good to hear it doesn't apply to anyone on MN.

@goodbyestranger your assertions about William are without proof, so I won’t be taking them seriously.

I'm not asking you to Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar, I really couldn't care in the slightest what you do and don't take seriously. But it's a fact that a rock solid marriage will be evident to both partners and won't be rocked by suggestions from people who don't know the couple that one or other has had/ is having an affair.

And just for the record, I think she’s had abdominal surgery and is in recovery. I think she’s probably made of pretty stern material to have lasted 20 plus years with the firm. I think she will have access to all the help she needs. There’s another failure of logic - those who argue that she’s spoiled at the taxpayer’s expense and in possession of more help than anyone could possibly ever need, including parents and Nannies on tap, but then she’s not allowed to have a therapist because of the RF, her own mental health advocate husband, well-being nut father in law and DV advocate step MIL won’t allow it, and presumably are stopping her parents and sister helping her to get help too.

Oh my god, @ArcaneWireless - that is so true about women's health, "hysteria" and mental health problems. Poor Kate. Has nothing been learned? All this speculation. Horrible.

@Roussette There are plenty of people on MN who assert such claims, you have seen them as we all have, even if you haven’t made them yourself. It’s happening on this thread.

Is this thread going the same way as the other one now! 🙄

What did Nicholas Soames say out of interest Goodbyestranger?

I know he called Diana “a loose canon” when she was making a stand against land mines (because drawing attention to weapons that blow off limbs of children indiscriminately was a batshit idea obviously 🙄🙄)