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The dress fitting thing was such a petty example of how the RF didn't support Meghan. Brought up as an example in the Oprah interview and then again in Spare.🙄

According to Harry, Meghan was always on the floor crying about something anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if she was bawling over some petty slight or misunderstanding. I think Catherine is the one who came out of it looking dignified and classy, even if they did have a disagreement and Meghan felt slighted by Catherine.

You don’t need to say anything of course. Or respond to me either - you can post when and what you want.

But when you take other posters to task, often quite rudely, for doing the same things you do yourself, it’s perfectly reasonable for other posters to point that out to you.

That's really quite ironic!

As far as Charlotte’s dress was concerned , it didn’t fit . That is obvious from photos . Like others , I would like to hear Catherine’s version but alas that is even less likely than me winning the lottery tonight .

simply as you don’t know any. Doesn’t mean no one else does

Of course. But I am sure you can understand my cynicism when someone posts that they have an aunt or uncle who overheard QE2 muttering something about Meghan under her breath. Or similar outlandish claims!

So I assume you are equally cynical about the claim that the late Queen told people she thought Catherine was lazy ?

I know nothing about that . Did a poster come on here and say they heard the Queen say that under her breath? If so, I missed that

Not quite what I asked .
IF you saw posters saying that ( as indeed they have) would you be cynical about the claim ?

Your question has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. If a poster came on here and said they had an aunt or uncle who heard QE2 saying that sort of thing about Catherine under her breath, I would treat it with the same cynicism.

Everyone would take that with cynicism? It isn’t the same at all

Sorry I don't understand

Roussette
Ditto the seamstress story. I put it in the bin with the posters who know someone who overheard the Queen saying something, or someone who's Aunt was Meghan's nanny, and so on.

And do you put the Meghan version in the bin? If not, why not? And as for dismissing the anecdote I gave as 'dramatic'!! The irony - I think Meghan is pretty dramatic! I'd put neither in the bin, but I'd ask myself 'Who's telling this story and what agenda do they have?

I have many faults, but I think I write pretty clear English. Yet you keep on twisting what I've said to suit your own narrative - namely that Meghan's truth must the THE truth. How can any thinking person swallow that idea? The aspect that stands out to me above all is that one person has had a monopoly on telling their version of events and another person hasn't been able to. I find that fundamentally unfair and I'm not willing to accept the Gospel according to Meghan, as so many otherwise intelligent people seem to do.

@CoffeeCantata well said .
If Meghan said today is Saturday, I would double check .

the trouble is when posters like CoffeeCantata make stuff up. posters will then say oh i read somewhere that this happened. forgetting that the poster made it up.
there are 2 sides to every argument. unless were there we will never know who was right.

Samcro
the trouble is when posters like CoffeeCantata make stuff up. posters will then say oh i read somewhere that this happened. forgetting that the poster made it up.
there are 2 sides to every argument. unless were there we will never know who was right.

Have you read my posts?

Clearly not.

I say it often but the double standards on this board are mind blowing, along with the hypocrisy of some.

if a poster came on here and said the Queen didn’t like something Meghan had done, I’d ask how to they know, and what’s the source, and don’t people realise all these rumours and gossip about what the Queen didn’t like or said about Meghan makes the Queen look a petty person?

Just as I’d correct the person that said that according to Harry, Meghan was always on the floor crying.

He never said she was always in the floor crying. He said that he came home and she was on the floor crying on one occasion. Meghan spoke about the other time in an article she wrote about her miscarriage. She spoke about sinking to the floor while holding Archie and realising what had happened. If there weren’t tears I’d be surprised. Harry may have mentioned it in his book too, but I don’t remember. But sinking to the floor in tears twice, when one time was a miscarriage and the other time was after an unpleasant exchange between yourself and your sister in law just before your big wedding day is allowed.

It’s not always on the floor in tears is it?

RocketsMagnificent7 · Today 09:14

Yes - and you have to try to find amusement in that!

But it's also very depressing in terms of comprehension and critical thinking skills. And I like to think that most people are fair-minded, but MN disillusions me sometimes.

Meghan went to Whole Foods on Kensington High Street and Harry writes in Spare that “Two hours later, when I got home, I found her inconsolable. Sobbing. Shaking”.

There’s a lot of tears.

She was also seen on the floor crying in Vancouver ( I think) surrounded by cases .

She was also on the floor crying after the dress fittings, also after the Oprah interview (according to Harry) . I was surprised at how emotional she is, and very vulnerable.

Marreas and Serenster’s examples seem to be the same occasion.

And the Vancouver example given by the other poster is one I haven’t seen documented anywhere. But please, if you have a source so I can follow it up?

Golly, yes Maireas. Harry said in “The Me You Can’t See” that before the Oprah interview screened:

"Before the interview, because of their headlines and that combined effort of the firm and the media to smear her, I was woken up in the middle of the night to her crying in her pillow because she doesn't want to wake me up because I'm already carrying too much," Harry said of Markle.
"That's heartbreaking," he added. "I held her. We talked. She cried, and she cried, and she cried."

I wonder how the rest of the family felt after the interview when Meghan smeared the family as racists in the whole world’s media’s while Prince Phillip was in hospital dying? (Allegations Harry later walked back, of course)

this thing posters say about Kate not being able to speak back and put her side of this story or any story is just not ok. The RF members can choose not to speak to things ( never complain, never explain) but it’s important to remember it is a choice. Actually it’s a strategy.

However, it is 2023 and I feel it’s very wrong now for a woman to feel like she can’t speak up. And I have to assume that’s the problem, because people on here keep saying Kate can’t respond.

This is not a criticism of Kate. Like the rest of the posters here I don’t know her. But she seems like a nice person.

It is, however, a criticism of the institution that is preventing her from speaking, like so many posters believe. Personally I think she’s probably adopted the strategy of not saying anything. Which is her right. But I’m not going to outright disbelieve a woman who is willing to go on record and say ‘this is the thing that happened to me.’

I do believe, because different royal reporters have confirmed it, that the palaces leak deliberately.

Just Google it .