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She was 'off the money' when she literally lies about what Meghan has said and hated being called out on it.
No. Meghan never said Archie reads books himself at 1year old.

She is a female Piers Morgan when it comes to M&H and makes a lot of money writing unpleasant articles about them

Pollysperfect · Today 02:13 I agree that seems the more plausible scenario.* *

Some extreme stances on here: anyone mildly praising the PoW is nauseatingly sycophantic, it seems. And mild criticism of Meghan is 'hating'. And before anyone jumps in - there's nothing more than mild criticism of M on this thread. I don't do any other SM but that's irrelevant here.

I base my feelings about both of them on what my eyes see and my ears hear, because we don't know what went on in private. I don't love Catherine, but I fail to see what she's done to deserve the opprobrium which gets piled on her. I don't hate Meghan, but I've been appalled at what she and Harry have done to their families since they left the UK. All I wish for H & M is that they settle down and stop creating so much misery for their relations (hers as well as his!). Hardly sycophancy or hating.

No, she invents stuff

Her credibility was shot with the article about where Camilla, Kate and Sophie were standing on the Remembrance Day balcony appearance in 2021. She wrote a whole article about how Camilla had graciously ceded centre spot to Kate.

Which was all bollocks - the Duke of Kent was representing ER II and was on the centre balcony. And Camilla was in the place of honour - it the spot nearest the person representing the Monarch.

It stuck in my my because any commentator who can get something pretty basic that wrong is not one on whom I would rely.

(Also I don't think people remember that the press just make stuff up sometimes)

Thebookdragon
We don’t know who made who cry except what one party has said and the other has never said anything.

Exactly.

We don't know and we'll never know - we all just choose who to believe depending on our personal bias. I really hate the way people just accept what was said by Meghan. Please remember Catherine hasn't been able to respond or tell her side. That in itself should make people realise the whole situation is unfair. If you've ever had people repeat gossip about you when you are not in a position to respond, and just have to watch the repercussions, you will feel this particularly strongly.

As some others on here have given their version, I'll give mine - but only because I want some balance! But none of us knows, do we? The source was one of the fitting staff who was present, apparently.

C complained about the fit of Charlotte''s dress. Either before or after this, at a fitting, Meghan, who was angry about it, made unkind remarks to Charlotte about her babyish behaviour (a 3 year old) and compared her unkindly to the daughter of Jessica Mulroney (an older girl). Jessica Mulroney and her daughter joined in the scolding, making Charlotte cry. Both C and Charlotte left the fitting very upset and feeling 'ganged up on'.

Now, for what it's worth, this account rings true with me in many ways. But I know my opinion isn't worth any more than anyone else's on here - but it's also at least equally valid. At least I'm prepared to admit that, in fairness. I'm just dismayed at the way so many people just take Meghan's word at face value, and don't even seem to think it was an awful thing to do to recount this incident on an international forum when the other people involved couldn't respond. Petty at best, and malicious at worst.

I really do not think , if your detailed version were to be true , kate would go straight home and send meghan a bit bouquet of flowers!

Your version has so much detail, it's a bit daft! Jessica M and her daughter joined in a scolding?! Come on....really...

Roussette · Today 10:19

I really do not think , if your detailed version were to be true , kate would go straight home and send meghan a bit bouquet of flowers!

Your version has so much detail, it's a bit daft! Jessica M and her daughter joined in a scolding?! Come on....really...

I disagree totally.

1. It's not 'my version' - it's in the public domain and it's from one of the seamstresses present at the fateful fitting. I will try to find the source, if anyone cares enough, though someone will simply dismiss it as gossip. And OK - as long as they're prepared to dismiss 'their' versions too.

2. When I read it it rang totally true to me. Have you never been in a situation where people gang up like this? I've seen it done to small children by other mums when the parent of a particular child isn't present. All sorts of shit like this goes on, I assure you. If you've never witnessed it - lucky you!

Come on, really.

That was a disgraceful post. I reported it but it was allowed to stand.

It's a complete crock anyway and it says a hell of a lot more about its author than it does about the Princess of Wales.

You dont know any of this, despite a seamstress source.
At least I'm not pretending I know.
I don't. But if it was so toxic and awful as you seem to think I doubt Kate would have sent a bouquet of flowers

Roussette
You dont know any of this, despite a seamstress source.
At least I'm not pretending I know.
I don't. But if it was so toxic and awful as you seem to think I doubt Kate would have sent a bouquet of flowers

Pleased read my posts and do not try to twist my words.

If you read them carefully you will be able to count just how many times I say that none of us knows - we all just tend to believe the version which aligns with our own prejudices/bias. I don't know how I could have made this clearer, other than putting the caps lock on which on MN is considered rude.

I hesitated to put what you call 'my version' up here, but got irritated by other posters' seeming total acceptance of Meghan's version.

For the last time: none of us know what happened, but that's no reason to accept one person's view uncritically.

I’m confused as to why you’re attacking rhe poster as she believes a different version to you?

I can quite see why Catherine might think 'I'm not in the wrong, but we're going to have to live with each other so I'll be gracious about it and send flowers' to try to improve the relationship to a working level.

I've not had a bridesmaid-fitting-inflicted-meltdown, but there have certainly been times at work where I have turned the other cheek to try to maintain a constructive relationship (while also minimising the interaction I have to have with an individual I find difficult to work with).

But if it was so toxic and awful as you seem to think I doubt Kate would have sent a bouquet of flowers

Being the bigger person not a concept you’re familiar with..?

What do you think these people base their articles on then? Just make it up? Don't you think they would be sued?

You are so naive.

I actually despair of people sometimes...!!!

How rude. Please don't make this personal.

In the context the poster describes.... using the words 'ganging up'
'unkind remarks' 'two people joining in' ... (a friend and a friend's daughter) it sounds very toxic indeed. It would be odd to send flowers in that context. IMHO.

Not odd at all.

It's far more odd to fail to comprehend why Kate might choose to pour oil on troubled waters, given that she was getting stuck with Meghan in her life?

Serenster · Today 12:15

But if it was so toxic and awful as you seem to think I doubt Kate would have sent a bouquet of flowers

Being the bigger person not a concept you’re familiar with..?

Exactly! I've been in this precise situation with a difficult family member several times. I've offered the olive branch despite being the victim (ha ha - but truly!) because of the bigger picture. A breach in the relationship would be much harder to deal with than a loss of the moral high-ground, so I took the easy way out/was the bigger person, depending on your viewpoint.

I can well imagine how Catherine might have sent flowers to Meghan even if she felt the situation wasn't her fault.

I’m looking at this cold and it’s you who are attacking? I can’t fathom why though,

and for my money the truth is likely somewhere in the middle and I can wholly see why Kate would have hee assistant send flowers to calm things down , if indeed that’s what happened and she perceived Megan to be deeply stressed and not coping.

@Lookingatthesunset exactly - it wasn't as if she could walk away and never speak to Meghan again. They were (at that point) looking like constantly appearing in public together, and any sign of tension endlessly picked over.

So it's quite credible she sent flowers.

I have no idea what the truth of the whole situation was, like everyone else on this thread.

But I can see a situation where someone might respond to a 'toxic' situation by placating the other person.

That’s what I think too, I’ve a fiery sil who takes offence at everything and anything, she’s a vile temper. I habe often placated her., rightly or wrongly for the benefit of family relationships. It’s easier than dealing with her shit.

and Kate didn’t even have to send them, just tell an assistant to do it.

Roussette - please consider what you have said before attacking further. I have not been rude at any point, merely asserted annoyance at being misinterpreted when I couldn't have been clearer. I don't mind disagreement, but I very much mind people suggesting I've said something which I haven't.

Gosh - when I think of some of the posts that are deemed OK on here!

I think most adult with reasonable emotional intelligence have been in situations where they decide their long-term goal of keeping a situation as manageable as possible conflicts with their short-term desire to tell someone else exactly what they think - and decide in favour of the long-term.

And probably has a moan to their partner or trusted friend, takes the dog for a walk, and then comes back and does what is needed - especially if they can delegate doing what is needed to an assistant!

Why is having a different viewpoint 'attacking'?

I wqas responding to a sarcastic post, that is all.

I am not 'attacking' you!

I am just disagreeing with your very detailed take on what the situation could have been

I do not disagree that we don't know. I was just pointing out that if three people (Meghan, JM and her daughter) were attacking Kate and Charlotte, calling C 'babyish', being unkind to her, ganging up on her etc... I don't get the flowers thing.
That is all.

Please note. This post is not an attack. I am putting forward a viewpoint.

But do we even know if Kate sent her flowers? Or was that an embellishment to imply POW had something to apologise for 🤷🏼‍♀️