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Mothermummymum · 18/01/2024 07:31

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:17

Um what? How the heck would I know. There are only certain things we do absolutely know.

And that’s she was clearly not suffering from violent bursts of the shits, as she’d not be able to do the things she did, for the length of time she did, so that rules out crohns,intestines and bowels, and she clearly wasn’t suffering from heavy periods, that would result in a hysterectomy at a young age, as that rules out light clothing when out for lengthy periods of time.

it is also something “planned” very, very recently. As otherwise the diaries would already be rearranged, and they only announced after the op, rather than announcing in advance she’s going in for a routine op ie gall bladder removal, like they announced for Charles . The statement also apologised for the diary reorg, so its sudden.

its something she wants to keep private, is serious, and she’s concerned about her children. But there is absolutely things that can be ruled out. Anything past that is speculation.

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I assumed you knew as you have been quick to dismiss and belittle everyone’s opinions / theory.

This is a chat to discuss our thoughts.

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 07:34

@Frasers watch Amy Dowden Crohn’s and Me on catch up - despite being severely affected by the disease she is able (not at the moment as she is having rigorous treatment for breast cancer) to train and dance professionally on Stricty

HollyKnight · 18/01/2024 07:36

People with heavy periods aren't allowed to wear white? I wasn't told this! I've been perioding wrong for 30 years. 😫

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:38

HollyKnight · 18/01/2024 07:36

People with heavy periods aren't allowed to wear white? I wasn't told this! I've been perioding wrong for 30 years. 😫

Who said they weren’t “allowed”?

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:40

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 07:30

@Frasers see my post. Apart from flare up episodes, when the bowel can become inflamed, leading to obstruction or partial bowel obstruction, Crohn’s disease can be medically managed so people can go out and about and live perfectly normal lives

One of the key symptoms when the disease is active is severe diarrhoea. Kate is in public, planned well in advance, often up to a year, and for often very long periods. It is clearly not crohns.

teddycoat · 18/01/2024 07:42

Rehabilitation hospitals exist. They are an actual thing. Rich people and athletes stay in them. They are staffed by doctors and nurses and physiotherapists. They are not hotels

You keep saying they exist but she's not in one of those is she?!

Eye hospitals also exist and she's not in one of those either.

She's in a hospital that specialises in women's gyne issues, cancer, and orthopaedic issues. If she has to stay in that hospital for 14 days then it's something quite serious and complex and its not going to involve spa treatments

HollyKnight · 18/01/2024 07:45

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:38

Who said they weren’t “allowed”?

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You said heavy periods rules out light clothing.

Ratsoffasinkingsauage · 18/01/2024 07:46

People on this thread are disgusting ghouls. The very worst of the internet. I can only hope they meet their own heartless atttiude someday in real life.

Astridspuzzle · 18/01/2024 07:46

MaudeKidd · 18/01/2024 00:20

Ohh I meant I had hyperemersis like the Princess of Wales, that wasn't the reason I had the hysterectomy. But I wonder if endometriosis and hyperemersus are linked ?

I'm very glad you're better @Maudekidd

Ramalangadingdong · 18/01/2024 07:51

alltootired · 17/01/2024 23:42

Eating disorders are not just based on being unhealthily thin,
I have no idea of Kate has an eating disorder or not, but do not peddle dangerous nonsense about what an eating disorder looks like.

Yes, the public is used to seeing images of the extreme effects of anorexia or binge eating. Many do not realise that sufferers of EDs may look normal weight. Although I would hazard a guess that K is underweight for her height but there can be many reasons for this. So, who knows?

Going off topic EDs are very dangerous and I would guess that most people in the public eye are vulnerable to them because of the intense scrutiny we put on their looks. When I read about public responses to K it is always in relation to her image “ooh, she’s beautiful” etc. That places a lot of pressure on someone - especially someone in their 40s who - as we all are - is ageing.

I am not a fan but I sincerely hope she does not have an ED. OTOH if she did and came out about it there might be a revolution in the treatment of this widespread and complex illness. It is currently almost impossible to find good treatment without paying exorbitant sums of money.

legrandcolbert · 18/01/2024 07:56

Agree · 17/01/2024 22:38

@legrandcolbert

I literally just had NHS surgery 5 weeks ago and it was barbaric and horrific treatment and I was nowhere near well enough to leave when coerced to against my legal rights as it turns out. I've had multiple surgeries. So I do know a thing or two about how absolutely horrific the NHS is right now. I wouldn't wish it on anyone whatsoever.

As for saying you'd probably have to go back to work the day after surgery if on UC it was a joke based on the horrific unreasonable treatment that people who are claiming UC often get that is widely known. Clearly, you're not actually on jobseekers having been signed off for 24 months you're now on a different benefit anyhow, something I also know a lot about and your experience is fortunate but not usual. Good for you and I hope you get better soon.

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You might have been joking but many people think that's how unreasonable the DWP/UC can be. I was merely stating that it can be a case by case situation, and for me, the opposite. I cried when I found out how great they has been, I thought I would only get a few months reprieve. I was initially on JSA, but due to surgery, have now been signed off from seeking work, although I do still receive that benefit along with LCWRA, the latter of which I had to apply for and my surgeon and consultants had to plead my case.

I've had many operations on the NHS, all have been excellent. However, I do appreciate others are not always as lucky and it can be a bit of a postcode lottery. Am so sorry you've had such a horrendous time.

VisitationRights · 18/01/2024 07:57

42 is not young, it is within the start of middle age, 40 to 60.

42 is not for a hysterectomy, though doubtful that is the surgery she has had, the average are range in the U.K. is 40 to 50 for a hysterectomy.

Mothermummymum · 18/01/2024 07:57

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:38

Who said they weren’t “allowed”?

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give it a rest.

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 07:58

@Frasers I have got Crohn’s and I’m not rushing to the toilet all the time as I’m on anti inflammatory meds. I lead a completely normal life and my bowels are like any one else’s- I go to the toilet once a day (sorry tmi but I’m trying to explain Crohn’s doesn’t mean people have uncontrollable diarrhoea these days as medication has advanced so much) .When I have a flare up I know just to stick to fluids only for a couple of days until it settles. Twenty years ago I had a massive inflammatory episode and went into bowel obstruction and had a bowel resection. It took weeks to recover from

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:01

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 07:16

The assumption she hasn’t got Crohn’s because she spends hours at public engagements is untrue. Crohn’s can be medically managed for many sufferers and allows patients, in the main, to live completely normal lives. It’s an illness that can flare up and lead to partial or complete bowel obstruction which sometimes requires a bowel resection

Yes, and some people with Crohn's tend towards constipation rather than the other way around.

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:02

Frasers · 18/01/2024 07:17

Um what? How the heck would I know. There are only certain things we do absolutely know.

And that’s she was clearly not suffering from violent bursts of the shits, as she’d not be able to do the things she did, for the length of time she did, so that rules out crohns,intestines and bowels, and she clearly wasn’t suffering from heavy periods, that would result in a hysterectomy at a young age, as that rules out light clothing when out for lengthy periods of time.

it is also something “planned” very, very recently. As otherwise the diaries would already be rearranged, and they only announced after the op, rather than announcing in advance she’s going in for a routine op ie gall bladder removal, like they announced for Charles . The statement also apologised for the diary reorg, so its sudden.

its something she wants to keep private, is serious, and she’s concerned about her children. But there is absolutely things that can be ruled out. Anything past that is speculation.

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It doesn't rule out Crohn's at all. Some people with Crohn's tend towards constipation.

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:05

Why are folks so obsessed with crohns, there is literally nothing to suggest she’s crohns,and she’s not lost weight, she’s been the same weight for at least a decade unless she was pregnant.

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:06

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:05

Why are folks so obsessed with crohns, there is literally nothing to suggest she’s crohns,and she’s not lost weight, she’s been the same weight for at least a decade unless she was pregnant.

Not at all obsessed with Crohn's, just correcting misinformation about Crohn's that is being posted.

mydogisthebest · 18/01/2024 08:06

Frasers · 17/01/2024 22:10

So what’s your point, he should fuck off out of it, let the staff care for his kids and not visit his wife? For you that’s reasonable?

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When exactly did I say he should not visit Kate? I am saying why does he need to not work until Easter? He is not going to be cooking, cleaning, etc is he?

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:09

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:06

Not at all obsessed with Crohn's, just correcting misinformation about Crohn's that is being posted.

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well let’s rely on the nhs shall we. Because diarrhoea is usually one of the main symptoms during a flare up,

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/crohns-disease/

Crohn's disease

Read more about the symptoms, treatment and complications of Crohn's disease, which is a long-term condition that causes inflammation of the lining of the digestive system.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/crohns-disease/

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 08:13

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:06

Not at all obsessed with Crohn's, just correcting misinformation about Crohn's that is being posted.

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@autumnisthebestseason totally agree, no one is obsessed with Crohn’s but correcting misperceptions about the illness. It’s frustrating reading @Frasers peddling complete rubbish about a condition that I live my life with and live it very fully and well (not desperately rushing to the toilet every few minutes as @Frasers implies)

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:14

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:09

well let’s rely on the nhs shall we. Because diarrhoea is usually one of the main symptoms during a flare up,

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/crohns-disease/

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It is way more common for people with Crohn's to suffer diarrhoea but it is not a given. Plenty have their condition under control, others tend towards constipation. Just like my family member who has tended towards constipation and just had a bowel resection for a stricture. Probably the better way to be, if you ask me. So your facts aren't completely correct. People with Crohn's don't always have diarrhoea.

autumnisthebestseason · 18/01/2024 08:15

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 08:13

@autumnisthebestseason totally agree, no one is obsessed with Crohn’s but correcting misperceptions about the illness. It’s frustrating reading @Frasers peddling complete rubbish about a condition that I live my life with and live it very fully and well (not desperately rushing to the toilet every few minutes as @Frasers implies)

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Completely agree with you. Sorry you have to deal with this horrible condition but I'm glad that you have it under control to live a full life. My family member is in employment and also lives a full life. Sometimes they suffer low energy but hopefully the recent surgery will help a lot.

FrancisSeaton · 18/01/2024 08:16

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:05

Why are folks so obsessed with crohns, there is literally nothing to suggest she’s crohns,and she’s not lost weight, she’s been the same weight for at least a decade unless she was pregnant.

Lol you her salter scales or something?

ElisabethZott · 18/01/2024 08:16

Frasers · 18/01/2024 08:09

well let’s rely on the nhs shall we. Because diarrhoea is usually one of the main symptoms during a flare up,

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/crohns-disease/

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@Frasers yes “during a flare up” are the key words. Flare ups might be years apart and the treatment is much better making it manageable unless a bowel obstruction occurs then surgical intervention might be necessary