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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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LittleTeawithmilk · 05/01/2024 22:51

My point is that criticism of Andrew is the issue here, surely royals who are ‘free to speak’ should be taking a stand and speaking out.

Please, point me to the law which rules they are not ‘free to speak’ - because citizens of every country where King Charles is Head of State are waiting to hear from him in regards to the matter of Andrew.

I don’t want to hear from (god forbid) Zara or Mike Tindal, or Harry or a second cousin, blah blah. I want to hear from our King.

alltootired · 05/01/2024 23:10

Mike Tindall who groped a crew member in I'm a Celeb?
That would be ironic if he condemned Andrew on behalf of the royal family.

Grandmasswag · 06/01/2024 08:37

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12930859/You-ought-stand-like-Moment-Prince-Andrew-filmed-bizarre-exchange-asking-Sandringham-crowds-cameras-video-him.html

sorry it’s a DM article but god lord this has given me such a RAGE! You only exist with your millions and palaces and ability to abuse whoever you please because of the goodwill of the British people (idiots) who like to queue up to catch a glimpse of you and wave. Andrew honestly believes he is somehow divine. I don’t think any of them have moved on from Henry VIII times although at least he was a man who prized education. Say what you like about Harry but at least he saw it all for what it was and has got out. As entitled as he may have been I do think he’s had a realisation and that says something. The Queen had one thing only right, never complain.

Prince Andrew filmed asking Sandringham fans why they are filming

The disgraced Duke of York was filmed speaking to wellwishers outside St Mary Magdalene Church on the Sandringham estate in Norfolk as the Royal Family attended the Christmas Day service.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12930859/You-ought-stand-like-Moment-Prince-Andrew-filmed-bizarre-exchange-asking-Sandringham-crowds-cameras-video-him.html

goodbyestranger · 06/01/2024 08:56

The Queen had one thing only right, never complain

The associated never explain was very wrong.

Roussette · 06/01/2024 08:59

Well... exactly! I couldn't bear to click on the DM so found it elsewhere. Basically, he's hoping for the people to say how wonderful he is.

Who in god's name would travel hours to stand in the wind to look at a privileged family that embrace a man who sees nothing wrong with a friendship of a sex trafficker.
Mind you... I've always found it odd that people do this, even if Andrew wasn't there.

They're just privileged people.

Roussette · 06/01/2024 09:14

More court papers have been unsealed. Maxwell denies she ever introduced Epstein to Andrew which is what he said more than once in the carcrash interview. He made out that it was a 'plus one' situation. Obviously he lied.

In a 2016 deposition released by a New York court on Friday, Maxwell said “clearly” the Prince knew Epstein, but that she did not know how the pair became acquainted.
“What I do know is that I did not introduce them,” she said during the deposition

Also....
Another document released on Friday, is an interview with one of Epstein’s former housekeepers, who said the Duke had daily massages when he spent “weeks” at the paedophile financier’s Florida home.

The article is behind a paywall, the link for it is quite safe, I have archived it so it can be read.

https://archive.ph/CjKuN#selection-2603.0-2607.81

LaMarschallin · 06/01/2024 09:17

Roussette

Well... exactly! I couldn't bear to click on the DM so found it elsewhere.

Sorry to be a nuisance, but where, Roussette?
I'm base enough to click on the DM link but it would be interesting to see another angle.
Happy New Year, btw Smile

goodbyestranger · 06/01/2024 09:23

I'm base too omg it's complete cringe.

Roussette · 06/01/2024 09:45

LaMarschallin · 06/01/2024 09:17

Roussette

Well... exactly! I couldn't bear to click on the DM so found it elsewhere.

Sorry to be a nuisance, but where, Roussette?
I'm base enough to click on the DM link but it would be interesting to see another angle.
Happy New Year, btw Smile

You're never a nuisance! Happy New Year to you too! 🎈🎇

I put into google Prince Andrew filmed at Sandringham and it came up with TikTok footage. I'm not on TT but could view it...

Maireas · 06/01/2024 09:47

goodbyestranger · 06/01/2024 09:23

I'm base too omg it's complete cringe.

I know. I understand completely, (bearing in mind his activities) that would make no difference if Andrew were charming and friendly, but he's not even that! The man is just an oaf.

LaMarschallin · 06/01/2024 09:50

Roussette

Excellent! Thank you Smile

I'd tried Googling "Prince Andrew Sandringham crowds church" but just got lots of bits about him advising someone to stand on newspaper to keep their feet warm...Confused

GrazingSheep · 06/01/2024 09:53

Epstein’s former housekeeper also stated that Sarah Ferguson was also a friend of Epstein and visited the Palm Beach residence once.

Roussette · 06/01/2024 09:53

@LaMarschallin

Here you go!
https://www.tiktok.com/@dailymailroyals/video/7320657733747805472

He sounds like a right tit. Posh voice (obviously) saying (imagine my cut glass accent)... I find this fascinating... why does everyone have their cameras on
Twat

Why in god's name do the public fawn over him like that? They said 'it's just lovely'

Maireas · 06/01/2024 09:56

GrazingSheep · 06/01/2024 09:53

Epstein’s former housekeeper also stated that Sarah Ferguson was also a friend of Epstein and visited the Palm Beach residence once.

Someone on another thread claimed that Epstein had paid off SF's debts - disclaimer: I don't know if that's true. It's all very dodgy anyway..

Roussette · 06/01/2024 10:05

Maireas · 06/01/2024 09:56

Someone on another thread claimed that Epstein had paid off SF's debts - disclaimer: I don't know if that's true. It's all very dodgy anyway..

It is true. She apologised profusely for her error, bet she did!

Grandmasswag · 06/01/2024 10:07

goodbyestranger · 06/01/2024 08:56

The Queen had one thing only right, never complain

The associated never explain was very wrong.

Yes I agree!

Grandmasswag · 06/01/2024 10:11

The audacity of the royals to complain that the press and public are interested in them always makes me furious. They want the spoils, they put up with press and public interest. The moment that wanes the state funded Kardashian’s have no purpose. I think the Queen actually understood that, the rest don’t.

OhGetFucked · 06/01/2024 10:19

Error? Good one.

Fucking grifters, every one of them.

Angrycat2768 · 06/01/2024 10:36

Roussette · 06/01/2024 08:59

Well... exactly! I couldn't bear to click on the DM so found it elsewhere. Basically, he's hoping for the people to say how wonderful he is.

Who in god's name would travel hours to stand in the wind to look at a privileged family that embrace a man who sees nothing wrong with a friendship of a sex trafficker.
Mind you... I've always found it odd that people do this, even if Andrew wasn't there.

They're just privileged people.

And stand there to give wrapped presents to Princess Charlotte? It doesnt really matter if they eventually go to charity. It was Christmas day. The present would probably be chucked in a corner when it may have been actually opened by a child with nothing that Christmas morning instead. The unquestioning blind adoration of these people allows them to get away with so much!

Angrycat2768 · 06/01/2024 10:45

Grandmasswag · 06/01/2024 10:11

The audacity of the royals to complain that the press and public are interested in them always makes me furious. They want the spoils, they put up with press and public interest. The moment that wanes the state funded Kardashian’s have no purpose. I think the Queen actually understood that, the rest don’t.

I think this is the problem with Harry. Yes, he had outrageous press intrusion, yes, his family throw stories to the press, but they do it because of what they get in return. Harry doesn't understand that. Good for him that he doesn't want the press intrusion, but that means he can't have the security and titles. I think the rest of them do understand that. Which is why they are so prepared to leak stories to the press and put up with press intrusion. It also allows them to get away with a lot, because their sycophants can say ' Oh look how much they put up with for us, for their duty to the country! I couldn't do it. They will be working until death!'
Never mind that they are on holiday in private for months of the year, and their ' work til they are dead' includes going to film premieres, sporting events and dinners, making small talk and 10 minute telephone calls once a week!

Maireas · 06/01/2024 10:47

Roussette · 06/01/2024 09:45

You're never a nuisance! Happy New Year to you too! 🎈🎇

I put into google Prince Andrew filmed at Sandringham and it came up with TikTok footage. I'm not on TT but could view it...

Edited

Just for you, I read the DM article and looked at the footage.( you're welcome)
Yes it was awful. The most interesting part? The DM was completely scathing - and the btl comments? Very much what you'd find on here, very critical of Andrew and his behaviour. Nobody supporting or excusing him at all in the top/popular comments.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/01/2024 10:48

Why in god's name do the public fawn over him like that? They said 'it's just lovely'

At least they left the excitable "Ooooooo" off the front of it Confused

It's the almost beatific beams of the watchers which get to me, almost as if they're honoured just to be there watching their idols
Admittedly I would say that as a republican, but while I try to understand others' POV what gets into these folks' minds is just beyond me

LambriniBobinIsleworth · 06/01/2024 10:52

Haven't read the thread yet so this may have been mentioned already, but I love that his rumoured banishment will be "banishment" to the newly refurbished house that Harry and Meghan were living in, presumably rent free. What a punishment! If I were Andrew Windsor I'd be checking that my human rights weren't being violated.

Alalain · 06/01/2024 10:54

They are groupies, ........ it's a well know phenomena for the famous, the wealthy, the Royals, actors, musicians, celebs etc.

Themountainwithsnowonit · 06/01/2024 11:25

Alalain · 06/01/2024 10:54

They are groupies, ........ it's a well know phenomena for the famous, the wealthy, the Royals, actors, musicians, celebs etc.

Are you saying trafficked girls are just 'groupies'?

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