Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

866 replies

TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
40
Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 17:06

rwalker · 04/01/2024 16:35

they pay because It’s cheaper just to pay to draw a line under it rather than fight it

to me it cast doubt on the person who is willing to be bought off smacks of being about money rather than justice

at work they have paid of loads of employment tribunal cases it’s quick and cheaper not an admission of guilt

Prince Andrew has an almost unlimited amount of money at his disposal if he wanted to clear his name. He certainly could have outspent Guiffre. All he could do was get his lawyers to slut shame her and try and say he was already coveted by snother compensation claim. He did absolutely nothing to defend himself and has lied and lied to cover this up. This is a man who syphoned off money from his Pitch@Palace i initiititive, tacking golf trips onto his public engagements so that they would be paid for by the taxpayer was sacked from.his Mummy endorsed job as a trade envoy and sold his taxpayer funded home to some dodgy kazakh oligarch for a knockdown price for reasons unknown. So obviously going by what we all know about him, he must be ' too honourable' to have behaved in an u toward way.

LenaLamont · 04/01/2024 17:06

I don’t think it crossed his empty mind for a fraction of a second where these girls came from and how they came to be there.

He thinks of himself as “too honourable”, ffs. The man is a privileged idiot who believes he’s entitled to absolutely everything he wants.

He has no thought for anything but his own wants and whims.

He actually thought he came across well in the Maitlis interview; that’s how spectacularly self-involved and deluded him is.

”I’m Prince Andrew, of course these young girls want to be with me. Who wouldn’t?”

Maireas · 04/01/2024 17:08

Yes, @LenaLamont - that's exactly what came across in the Maitlis interview. Extraordinary.

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 17:10

I think it was more ' I'm Prince Andrew. I don't care what these creatures want. They exist to service me. Drinks, nibbles, sex, whatever'

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 04/01/2024 17:10

Tbh even if Andrew had been caught red handed, in the act so to speak, he would still go into denial. Denial is built-in to that kind of narcissistic personality.

FrippEnos · 04/01/2024 17:12

LenaLamont · 04/01/2024 17:06

I don’t think it crossed his empty mind for a fraction of a second where these girls came from and how they came to be there.

He thinks of himself as “too honourable”, ffs. The man is a privileged idiot who believes he’s entitled to absolutely everything he wants.

He has no thought for anything but his own wants and whims.

He actually thought he came across well in the Maitlis interview; that’s how spectacularly self-involved and deluded him is.

”I’m Prince Andrew, of course these young girls want to be with me. Who wouldn’t?”

This ^ its the same attitude as with so many sports people.

Roussette · 04/01/2024 17:15

He actually thought he came across well in the Maitlis interview; that’s how spectacularly self-involved and deluded him is.

Yes. There's a programme out there with Maitlis talking about the interview and how she found it extraordinary that... after the interview (when she just knew how he'd hung himself).... he decided to take her on a tour of Windsor Castle (or wherever it was), all puffed up with his own self importance of 'good job done'.

LenaLamont · 04/01/2024 17:17

Angrycat2768 · 04/01/2024 17:10

I think it was more ' I'm Prince Andrew. I don't care what these creatures want. They exist to service me. Drinks, nibbles, sex, whatever'

I can see that perspective, but he honestly thinks he’s bloody marvellous, from what I can see.

Have you seen Enchanted? James Marsden as Prince Edward is convinced he is wonderful in every regard. Pip the chipmunk tries to communicate with him, and Edward makes it all about how great he is.

Andrew can do that too. “Stayed with a convicted sex offender? Naturally, because I’m too decent to break an engagement to dine.”

ThePoshUns · 04/01/2024 17:19

Roussette · 04/01/2024 17:15

He actually thought he came across well in the Maitlis interview; that’s how spectacularly self-involved and deluded him is.

Yes. There's a programme out there with Maitlis talking about the interview and how she found it extraordinary that... after the interview (when she just knew how he'd hung himself).... he decided to take her on a tour of Windsor Castle (or wherever it was), all puffed up with his own self importance of 'good job done'.

He really is a grade A prick.
The royal family are doing themselves no favours at all in keeping him in their inner circle.
Charles really should cut him adrift.

TallerSally · 04/01/2024 17:22

Roussette · 04/01/2024 17:15

He actually thought he came across well in the Maitlis interview; that’s how spectacularly self-involved and deluded him is.

Yes. There's a programme out there with Maitlis talking about the interview and how she found it extraordinary that... after the interview (when she just knew how he'd hung himself).... he decided to take her on a tour of Windsor Castle (or wherever it was), all puffed up with his own self importance of 'good job done'.

Interesting! I had heard about a docu or film coming out about Prince Andrew’s shamelessness during the Maitlis interview.

Would you have a link?

OP posts:
LenaLamont · 04/01/2024 17:27

The chapter in Maitlis’s book is absolutely priceless. Andrew’s talking about seeing her again while she’s thinking “not once this airs, matey…”

TallerSally · 04/01/2024 17:32

@Angrycat2768
This is a man who syphoned off money from his Pitch@Palace i initiititive, tacking golf trips onto his public engagements so that they would be paid for by the taxpayer was sacked from.his Mummy endorsed job as a trade envoy and sold his taxpayer funded home to some dodgy kazakh oligarch for a knockdown price for reasons unknown.

Its just so shocking how the Royal family and their army of defenders think we’re all just going to suffer collective amnesia and be lulled into silence by their public shows of support for vile Prince Andrew and the onslaught of Operation Rehabilitate Prince Andrew (and co-grifter Fergie) articles flooding the media and various boards these days.

It won’t work, in fact it’s having the opposite effect. No-one likes being taken for a ride and as a taxpayer I do not agree to my tax pounds being spent on such an unrepentant and self-indulgent child-abusing liar.

OP posts:
TallerSally · 04/01/2024 17:34

Roussette · 04/01/2024 17:29

@TallerSally

I think this is the one
e

Thanks!

OP posts:
LauderSyme · 04/01/2024 17:46

Of course he was. As far as I was concerned, it was never remotely in question that he dug his entitled, sleazy snout as deeply as it would go into Epstein's depraved trough.

I watched Emily Maitlis talking about her experience of the interview, and heard her explain that her riposte "Unbecoming?! He was a sex offender", was completely off the cuff, because she just couldn't believe he had used such quaintly minimising language.

Good on her for not biting back her retort out of misplaced respect.

pickledandpuzzled · 04/01/2024 17:51

I have no desire to shelter or protect him- if there’s something to report then report away. I’m not a royalist, I just see his behaviour through the eyes of the time. He was a privileged, entitled, really rather dim arse.

Newsenmum · 04/01/2024 17:55

Let me guess… people are still defending him? Are the royals on mumsnet?
There is nothing ok about his behaviour.

StaunchMomma · 04/01/2024 17:56

Couldn't agree more, OP.

You're also right re Harry & Meghan. Many will continue to bleat about these two whilst desperately playing down the Andrew issue.

It's really rather pathetic.

LadyWhitwell · 04/01/2024 18:13

How could any of those disgusting men see these girls as underage. They are all paedophile. No excuses for constantly attending parties with such young kids around.

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
LadyWhitwell · 04/01/2024 18:15

Clearly underage. All complicit

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
LadyWhitwell · 04/01/2024 18:17

Poor child.

Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?
BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 04/01/2024 18:18

Grotesque and sick.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 04/01/2024 18:21

This is a man who syphoned off money from his Pitch@Palace initiititive, tacking golf trips onto his public engagements so that they would be paid for by the taxpayer was sacked from his Mummy endorsed job as a trade envoy and sold his taxpayer funded home to some dodgy kazakh oligarch for a knockdown price for reasons unknown

The rest is true, but I thought Kulibayev was supposed to have paid £3 million over the asking price - which just makes it worse

Also agree with I think it was more ' I'm Prince Andrew. I don't care what these creatures want. They exist to service me. Drinks, nibbles, sex, whatever'
As a member of the RF I'd have thought the chances of him caring enough to ask about the girls' circumstances would be nil - after all he didn't even express any concern for them with Maitlis and was nudged into doing it only when the post-interview storm broke

Theasparrot · 04/01/2024 18:24

@TallerSally
Obviously you've seen all the court records, the accusations and the definitive proof that Andrew is what you say he is, you were there in court when he was found guilty. Was it a majority verdict by the jury?
what was Andrew actually charged with? how many counts of sexual abuse did he face?