William's Life's Work Is To End Homelessness.

[BucksorHerts]

Just seen this post about an article in the Daily Mail.
William say's life's work is to end homelessness. His father is (and soon enough himself) the largest land owner in the country.
Instead of posing with the same homeless guy year in and year out asking commoners to end homelessness surely he can carve out some of that land to build low rent flats and studios for the poorest. He never gives up any of his money for anything but is always asking. His expenses are paid for - holidays, children's fees, accommodation etc.
Or even use all the money that comes to them from people who died intestate. It's unhealthy to accumulate so much wealth without doing any work. Even doctors who study for years and save lives do not get anything close to this. It makes no sense.

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I find that photo of William distasteful. He's using the man selling the big issue as some sort of prop for his own PR. UAnyone who thinks the RF gives a hoot about homeless is a fool.

he must be baffled that it's not working. What's not working?

Would you rather go back to the days of paparazzi shots of them on holiday? There is a thirst for photos of them. I’d rather this than them being hounded in their private time.

Gosh, how patronising. Did it occur to you that the Big Issue seller (Dave) was happy to be photographed with William? Did you read what both of them say in the article about the cause? What William said about the way that people were happy to stop to talk to him when he was selling the Big Issue, yet they routinely walked past regular sellers, as though they were invisible? He's trying to change perceptions and make people think twice.

I struggle to believe that you 'give a hoot' about the homeless because if you did, you would welcome anything that drew attention to the cause.

Well, Charles DID give some of his land to create Poundbury (houses and shops, etc).
When I went there a couple of years ago, it was much better than I had been led to believe.
I understand that William is going to do something similar - not sure.
However, it would be hard to end homelessness, when we have 700,00 net arrivals last year. They all have to live somewhere. From this, I guess that William is idealistic. People are often homelss for all sorts of reasons.

I struggle to believe that you 'give a hoot' about the homeless because if you did, you would welcome anything that drew attention to the cause.

Nobody needs a privileged royal to draw attention, homeless people are all around us, unless you don't notice them without a Prince standing next to them? Even William said recently, his family haven't actually changed anything, they've just 'highlighted' causes that other people do the hard work for.

Someone will come along and criticize them for cutting jobs when they have the money to employ more people.

Well, Charles DID give some of his land to create Poundbury (houses and shops, etc).

My goodness. Poundbury is just a vanity project for Charles. Yes, he has some social housing there and that is good. However, they can't even paint their front doors a colour of their choice! Or have satellite dishes or name their house or apply for an extension.
Very Truman show. And soulless

Just as well you don't have to live there then

Such a valid defence from you derxa not!

I guess it's no different to the greek islands where all the shutters have to be painted a very specific shade of pantone blue 😁

I've seen Poundbury, it's not altogether soulless (although I'm not a fan of the mock-Georgian approach). On the whole, Poundbury is more appealing than the average new-build estate. Like most new-build estates, I imagine it will look better when it has aged a bit and the trees have grown etc

This is a great demonstration of what I mean. “They should give their land away”
“Well, Charles did do a bit of that”
””Well that was really obnoxious of him”

If we changed the name to someone you like, you’d be all over yourself about how wonderful it is.

homeless people are all around us, unless you don't notice them without a Prince standing next to them?

Spot on, @Iwantcakeeveryday

PW will save a couple of £billion by avoiding paying inheritance tax. Just like his buddy Hugh £10bn Grosvenor, the 7th Duke of I own most of Westminster.

Both are in a position, with their £billions, to do something genuinely significant to tackle homelessness. Instead we get PW's performative PR-driven posturing, and... £3m, over 5 years.

What value is this adding? And to whom? Saving a PW a couple of billion in inheritance tax in exchange for him taking a few photos and organising a few talking shops on homelessness before hot-footing it back to one of his palaces is hardly good value for taxpayer money.

I'm sorry? Why are you presuming what I will say in the future, you don't know my views on everything you know. And nowhere have I used the word 'obnoxious'.

I am uncomfortable about Duchy rules for residents (see below), ditto for Poundbury. If you think Charles had Poundbury built to help homelessness, you are somewhat deluded.

The royal family has used a secretive procedure to vet three parliamentary acts that have prevented residents on Prince Charles’ estate from buying their own homes for decades

There are more sources about this if you so wish.

I’m sorry, I can’t stop laughing at this.

Do you really think people in this position are upset they can’t paint their doors or name their houses? How very tone deaf and privileged one must be to think these things are top of mind for someone who can’t afford to house themselves.

Yes, no satellites allowed so let’s just tear it all down.

Really fascinating perspective!

Collective you. It’s widely used here.

You obviously do not know much about Poundbury. What is 'in this position'.

Homeless? Do you think that those in affordable housing have no rights? I am talking about the whole of Poundbury which is not all affordable housing by any stretch, 30% I believe. And I'd be grateful if you'd ease up on the PA of calling me 'tone deaf and privileged'
Thanks

Tell me, is Poundbury more soulless than not knowing where you’ll sleep tonight? Or than a shelter? Or an abusive home?

You can be as uncomfortable as you wish. It’s really not about anyone’s comfort outside of the people being served.

Yes, no satellites allowed so let’s just tear it all down.

I wish you'd read posts properly. No one on here has said 'tear it down'. Emotive made up language like this deters discussion.

As Derxa said, good thing you don’t have to live there in the affordable homes or otherwise.

As you don't read posts properly Alice, there is not a lot of point replying to you. I'll pass thanks.

Yes, and criticizing everything anyone tries to do… well, fortunately for many, those people just keep moving forward.

I mean we can keep saying this but sadly people genuinely do think that the royal family is superior, to themselves and to us all, and anything they do is amazing and noble and good. The fact is, to many of us who have struggled all their lives with housing and never had their own home, someone who owns more property than they need or should morally have and acquired it through immoral means saying he'll end homelessness, is a massive insult. William will not solve homelessness, he won't even come close.

There is no reason for the Royal Family to give up what they have.... that way lies communism (& that hasn't gone well!).
Give the guy a break - he's trying to do something good here. He may not success, but at least he's giving it a go. Plenty of other people wouldn't touch this cause at all.