RAVEC - Prince Harry

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Can someone explain to me the procedure and how this works?

pretty sure he wasnt as entitled as this until he got in tow with mad meg!!! has no one noticed that it is only when she is with him that they "borrow" a private jet??? as for a home in uk, they already have one somewhere in cotswolds or oxfordshire or thereabouts!! probably not big enough for queen meghan though!!!

Having surveillance on you is horrific, a friend was surveilled by an insurance company and she was destroyed by it, even though, ironically, it proved her case and she was hugely compensated for both the accident and the surveillance, in the end there was no win in it for her physically or psychologically. I can’t imagine the impact of it bring printed in the daily newspaper. While I still believe Harry is a huge hypocrite, can totally sympathize with him and the other victims.

Sorry, this probably should have been on the other thread, but I am staying well away from the hypocrisy and nastiness there !

What other thread.

@Viviennemary she means any thread where people have different opinions to her.

different, positive or neutral.

If it's spewing bile at H&M, it's not hypocritical

😂

I don’t recall now, there are so many.

Because the Omid Scobie threads are all sweetness and light.

Your friend's experience sounds horrific. It was a shallow victory for her in the end as her peace of mind was shattered.
I think Harry's concern is more about his wife and children. Meghan has been abused from day one in the UK and has had very real and provable threats made towards her. These included death threats which people were jailed for. Only last week 6 ex Metropolitan Police officers were found guilty of racially abusing her and narrowly escaped being jailed while more abuses are still being investigated.
Could you elaborate on which thread you are referring to in the above quote? I am intrigued as apart from one or two derogatory comments about H&M which have largely been ignored I cannot see any other hypocrisy and nastiness in other recent threads. The difficulty with comments such as yours is that without clarification it fuels suspicion.

The only thing we’ve established is your one track train of thought Icedpurple

I’ve repeatedly said that I am no expert on RAVEC.

But I maintain that there could be different ways around solving this issue (see article quoted below about private security being considered to look after certain buildings in the royal estate ) that a man of KC’s power, influence and private wealth could sort out if he so wanted.

Incidentally, all of you bleating on about highly trained experts really ought to read the ruling of The High Court judgement of Harry’s case and a finding which … to quote from Times Byline … breaks open what Gordon Brown called the “ criminal media nexus” of corrupt cops, tabloid journalists and private investigators and the “dark arts” that came to dominate the British press at the time of the phone hacking scandal. .

The evidence points to astounding levels of police corruption and we all know that the Met has not exactly covered itself in glory since.

The SO14 Royal Protection Group is part of the Met is it not?

Yes they have a great track record of keeping members of the RF safe but maybe Harry has reasons to not entirely trust the people who are designated to watch over him? Maybe that’s what he means when he says security arrangements are inadequate?

If Harry doesn't trust the Royal Protection Group, why on earth is he going to JR over their decision NOT to provide him automatically with the maximum amount of security?

You do realise his complaint about the 'adequacy' of the protection being offered is that he doesn't think it is enough? I.e. that he wants MORE of the Royal Protection Group's security, he's not having them foisted on him and trying to get rid of them?

I don’t claim to know what he thinks but he has said he feels unsafe.

His case is he feels 'unsafe' to visit the UK because he doesn't automatically get the full level of protection he used to get, it is going to be assessed and provided on a case by case basis.

He wants the full level of police-provided protection in order to feel 'safe'.

I am sure there are lots of underlying reasons why he doesn’t feel safe.

No doubt, but as he has made clear he wants full police protection for every visit, the evidence suggests he does trust the people 'designated to watch over him' - given that he wants more of the 'watching over' and not less.

KC cannot influence RAVEC the Queen sent a letter supporting Harry's position and it still was removed and its not for sale so throwing money at it won't help yes harry can pay for his own security but I don't believe they can be armed and they won't have access to the data and all the threats

He will get security if its deemed necessary and as the Kings son it will most likely be necessary especially as he seems to have a way of irritating people beyond belief (as this thread and others show)

If Harry doesn't trust the Royal Protection Group, why on earth is he going to JR over their decision NOT to provide him automatically with the maximum amount of security?

It's a fair question, wildernesssw, but as you're seeing you won't get a coherent answer to it

Ditto so many of the other "inconvenient" questions many of us have asked ...

Prediction: He'll be back anyway. Give it time. But probably on his own.

The public reaction should be interesting, after all the crapspeak he's uttered over the years. But, like the Nazi fancy dress, he won't want to be reminded of that.

I think the public are starting to understand that there has been a sustained, calculated and malicious press campaign against Harry and Meghan and that Piers Morgan increasingly lacks credibility.

There does seem to be a weird lack of logic mixed up with a belief that the monarch should both have unlimited powers AND be more subject to constraints than they at present.

It's an interesting mix, I'm trying to understand it.

Well one could argue that there’s a lot of contradiction inherent in the monarch’s so called lack of power and the many privileges (such as murky practices in the realm of accounting) over which he presides. It’s the same sort of logic! 😃👍

Well, exactly - it is an odd model to follow.

Feeling “unsafe” is not a justification for tax payer funded full 24/7 security wherever he is in the world.

Sadly there are many people, primarily women and children, who do not feel safe because they are fleeing DA. They have to fight much harder to even get minimal protection with far less funds when the potential (or actual) assailant is known.

RAVEC’s job is to monitor the situation and provide the appropriate level of security for PH when in the UK. Asking for 28 days to get that security in place is perfectly reasonable.

H & M have not helped themselves with the media. There are inaccuracies in the Oprah interview, Netflix series, Spare and PH interviews. These are their own words.

Don't be ridiculous. Harry and Meghan are two adults who have often behaved like spoilt, petulant, over-privileged children. They've largely made their own bad publicity.

If they wanted to leave to find 'freedom', great, I applaud them for that. But do something useful with your lives and shut up the whining, nobody wants to hear how awful it's been for them, we've only heard their side of the story, and these two are incredibly privileged. Be grateful for the privilege you have and do something constructive with your lives the pair of you, instead of going down the Duke & Duchess of Windsor route and becoming pointless, churning out whinging, badly-written books.