Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3

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La Pom Pom Girl is doing the Double Dutch. But who is turning the skipping ropes? Part three/trois/drie of the continuing discussion of Endgame by Omid Scobie. Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

Harry wrote a book about how wronged he felt in the RF, but so did Charles.

Charles never wrote a book but did work with a biographer who wrote one. And while it had some complaints about his life, it was nothing like 'Spare'. Other than that, he's been pretty discreet in his 75 years in the royal family. By contrast, Harry moved to the other side of the world to make a profession out of slagging off his family. I don't think he can blame that on 'the press'.

I don't think William and Kate will disown Archie and Lilibet. They're both very family orientated and love children.

Wasn't Harry only in the country when the Queen died by sheer chance? The notion that everyone should be bending over backwards to accommodate the "needs" of someone who walked out on his family and duty is ridiculous. Not only was there the death of a beloved mother and grandmother, but a grieving, elderly man having to take on a massive public role without pausing for breath, government needing to have a smooth and swift transition of power, the public having the right to know what's going on with a beloved head of state, and the world's media standing by to watching and waiting and clocking every move. The notion that anyone thinks Harry was a priority in any of this is the thought process of true narcissism. If Scobie truly believes this, he is thicker than I had thought. God knows what bleating there would have been had Harry been in the US when she died.

They don't know them though, and neither do their children. It is not likely they will get to know them while they are children. People think Harry and Meghan will divorce, but that doesn't mean Harry and/ or the children will come back to the UK. A divorce will probably make it less likely that Meghan will allow the children come back without her. Its a very sad family breakdown that people are making tons of money out of. Not just Scobie but all the Royal commentators, lip readers, paps, any old person who used to work for any ofvthe Royals over 50 years are all making hay out of this.

Yes because even when they don't do anything the press speculate about ' where Meghan is' and her resurrecting her acting career/ running for office/being the face of Dior' or whatever just to make up a story or put her name into a story to generate clicks and advertising. If they don't want to buy pictures of her from paps they are well within their rights not to. They are generating the market because its making them money.

Its a very sad family breakdown that people are making tons of money out of. Not just Scobie but all the Royal commentators, lip readers, paps, any old person who used to work for any ofvthe Royals over 50 years are all making hay out of this.

As indeed, are Harry and Meghan themselves, between various books, interviews and 'documentaries'. The only financial successes they have had in their post-royal life have involved slagging off Harry's family.

One day Archie and Lilibet might ask why they have no contact with most of their family. No doubt they will be told the "no one liked us, everyone froze us out, they were all out to get us" story line.
It is just very sad and, in a way, I feel the children are being used as pawns.

I honestly think that should H&M be invited back for events, family or official, no one will talk to them anything more meaningful than "How are you? - Fine".
And it is all their own doing, not that they have the self reflection skills to admit that.

Wasn't Harry only in the country when the Queen died by sheer chance?

I'm pretty sure he was in the UK for the WellChild ceremony, OP, and what might have been a quick in-and-out turned into rather more than that

I read somewhere ( sorry can’t remember where) that Harry wanted to share the Duchy of Cornwall income with William and was angry when told no.

Of course it is! That's their modus vivendi!
Kim Kardashian, Meghan, Britney, whoever. That's what they do.

At about 17:35 James asks about developing sources. Omid’s reply is very relevant to this discussion. He said he likes to cultivate friendships. The catches himself and changes it to “relationships”. Then he begins talking about people like Kim Kardashian, emailing him directly.

I hate liars and I hate people who insinuate but do not have the guts to say "Yes I said this" or "Yes I did this". In that Oprah interview she is dangling the bait with the "racism", stops talking and the silence is deafening only to be filled up by Oprah when she gawps and asks her if her son would be too brown. (See below) Meghan's answer - again see below.

"If that is the assumption that YOU are making that is a pretty safe one"

Meghan didn't say YES - she left it to Oprah to put her spin on it and like the fool she is she jumped right in. Meghan then able to say " Oh I never said that - it was Oprah's interpretation". She talks in the same way as Scobie - in riddles.

I wonder if Harry is still on the cousins WhatsApp group. I doubt it. He used to get on well with Zara. He seems to still get on with Eugenie but not so much Beatrice .

He might still be on it, but who's to say the rest of them didn't start an additional group sans Harry?

It is what we had to do in our family when my brother was just constantly droning on about one thing or another and would not take a hint. Now we have a very active group and one that's more like "Christmas Eve at X's, Easter Sunday at Y's, who will bring something along".

Yes if course it is but then people can't complain about 'worldwide privacy tours' when people's engagement with stories fuels press coverage and if Meghan Markle really is paying Backgrid gor photos, are the ones buying and publishing the said photos. Their desperation for any story that involves them extends to making up content when they themselves don't do anything and adding their names to articles about other Royals to drive traffic to the sites. They have done a documentary- about themselves, Oprah ,Spare and likely collaborated on this, even though most of the book is apparently not about them. That is not a lot of content for 4 years. Yet every day, there are two or three tabloid stories about Meghan Markle. The reason they do this is because they know there is a huge amount of interest in them. The people who engage on every single article banging on about how much they don't want to hear about them are the people who are causing them to still be in the news.

Ah, yes well remembered - didn't he say something his speech for them this year about how the Queen would have wanted him there rather than with her or something?

But I would categorise the very rare public engagement he now does in the UK as sheer chance.

Yes because even when they don't do anything the press speculate about ' where Meghan is' and her resurrecting her acting career/ running for office/being the face of Dior' or whatever just to make up a story or put her name into a story to generate clicks and advertising.

It is quite clear that a lot of that coverage is the result of their own PR efforts to ensure they stay in the news.

To be honest, @Angrycat2768 I don't know how many tabloid stories there are about Meghan per day. No doubt someone counts them. If you think that Meghan's output is minimal and the coverage is excessive, maybe you're right. However, she obviously wants publicity - Meghan was recently at a Variety event, and posed in front of the ad board. If that wasn't to garner publicity, what was it for? I don't blame her, she wanted to be well known, she married a famous man, that's the deal.
She's click bait, it's true.

Didn't he say something his speech for them this year about how the Queen would have wanted him there rather than with her or something?

Yes, OP, that was at this year's WellChild event and the comment was:
"As you know, I was unable to attend the awards last year as my grandmother passed away. As you also probably knowshe would have been the first person to insist that I still come to be with you all instead of going to her, and that’s precisely why I know exactly one year on that she is looking down on all of us tonight, happy we’re together, continuing to spotlight such an incredible community"

Thr pressxare willingly giving it to her. If they really are upset by what they are doing to the RF, why print it? It's not obvious that this is coming from their PR. What do they gain from making up a story that Dior denies? Nothing. The tabloids gain two stories to a bare minimum and thousands of comments. I suspect a lot of it is tabloid ir Internet nonsense made into a story for clickbait and content.

For sure, @Angrycat2768 .
However, it's silly of either of them to get upset by tabloid coverage when they have done their utmost to publicise their lives, to a very personal degree. It's not an excuse for hounding or harassment, but they certainly want the interest.

King Charles and Camilla to mark anniversry of late Queen's death privately

As the late Queen always marked the anniversary of her father's death privately.

That do they gain from making up a story that Dior denies? Nothing.

You put out the story because it creates the impression that Dior sees Meghan as a desirable spokesperson, and see her as embodying the values of the Dior brand. After all, she has worn Dior several times.

(Obviously, at the time the story is put out, the PR agency does not know that Dior is going to deny it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!)

Like at a recent event in New York, when they used a convoy of several large cars with black out windows to come out of their hotel onto a one-way street, drive up the road and then turn back around the block, and drive to the venue - which was just a 100 metres or so from their hotel.

Wasn't Dior tweeting about them dressing Harry for the coronation? And wasn't he flashing a Dior label when entering the Royal Courts of Justice for one of his many court cases? The Dior connection with H&M being made by the press didn't come out of thin air - they were clearly courting the connection.

(I think the actress playing Kate Middleton in The Crown has the Dior gig now).