Omid Scobie Endgame PART 3

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La Pom Pom Girl is doing the Double Dutch. But who is turning the skipping ropes? Part three/trois/drie of the continuing discussion of Endgame by Omid Scobie. Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4951834-omid-scobies-new-book-part-2

He filibusters. He never answers a question that doesn't have a self serving answer, but witters at length down a trajectory of soundbites he wants out there in order to deflect from his own conduct - to the point where the original question is lost, and it's almost impossible for the interviewer to attempt a rejoinder. It's really frustrating watching interviewers allow him to get away with this and not rein him in. Someone needs to Jeremy Paxman him.

I can see the Sussex squad who hang on Meghans words introducing the Katie Keen into their own realm, the KKkate has been around since at least 2021. The hatred is very strong among them, Kate has been a target before the names disclosed. They are part of the problem and Meghan is constantly linked with some of the higher profile ones as well as being linked to Bouzy and bots rumours. Even if Harry and Meghan never had any link or want to move on from the mud slinging the Squad has remained on attack and will continue to fuel the fire. They are a liability to the Sussexes brand.

I bloody hope the translator is the one negotiating - for a huge pay out and an apology! However, I rather suspect she will not be treated as anything other than collateral damage.

I completely agree. I had a run-in with them a while back for speaking up for Kate. I hadn't said one word against Meghan but had to report some of them for calling me 'chalky'. It was kind of scary, and I thought Jackson had OTT fans!

I can see the Sussex squad who hang on Meghans words introducing the Katie Keen into their own realm, the KKkate has been around since at least 2021.

The head writer at Celebitchy has been calling Kate “CopyKeen” and just “Keen” for years now, which I thought was an … interesting link.

Omid, who claims that the (American comic reference)”Katy Keen” was the British Palace’s nickname for Kate, also ensured the same head writer received an advance copy of Endgame before its publication date. She tweeted with delight about how it was mauling the Windsors.

It’s the sun but presumably fairly accurate or they’ll be sued right? 😒

Apparently the Dutch version has more material, quotes etc, here:-

https://www.thesun.co.uk/royals/24930053/prince-william-denied-harry-chance-fly-queens-deathbed/

It really does sound like the Dutch translators had an older draft I.e. pre-legal review. I feel really sorry for them as they were just doing their jobs.

I think the Sun is just quoting what the book says rather than saying this is what happened as the Sun's opinion. Didn't they actually wait for PH for an hour on the runway?

I thought that it was the weather that held them up?

Either way, aren't all of these decisions taken by staff?

Would it really be William's decision to wait for Harry or not?

Im still looking for the bombshells. It’s just all repackaged old news.

“Granny was dying and they wouldn’t give me a ride.” Is that so terrible? Seems like he figured out how to get himself there just fine. I’m sure Harry is not accustomed to doing much for himself, but he’d figured out how to get from California to Europe and back to London.

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a45850458/prince-harry-queen-elizabeth-death-book-excerpt/

Im still looking for the bombshells. It’s just all repackaged old news.

Indeed.

Petty squabbles!

Piers Morgan has an article in the Sunday Time today (rehashing everything he’s said this week) but it does drop this very interesting detail:

When Charles threw a 50th birthday party for Camilla in 1997 while Diana was holidaying with the Fayeds during that last fateful summer, Mohamed Al Fayed called me from his villa to ask if our photographer (I was editor of the Daily Mirror) would be near the beach that morning. I could hear Diana in the back­ground, issuing instructions to him, and she later came to the beach in a leopard-print bikini and began doing cartwheels, guaranteeing that the next day’s front pages would be full of pictures of her and not of Camilla’s big night.

I’ve posted a couple of times about that incident (and about how it seemed like a deliberate choice fo Diana’s, who was very aware of the power of her image). Here’s one of the pictures that were taken that day. Fascinating to hear Piers Morgan say it was indeed set up by Mohammed Al Fayed and Diana jointly.

“A source close to the Duke and Duchess”,
“A family source” and “a friend of Meghan’s”
“A former palace source”
”A friend of Harry’s”

It’s all Meghan and Harry, isn’t it?

A source close to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex told Scobie, “It was upsetting to witness. [Harry] was completely by himself on this.”

”A former palace source told Scobie, “They just didn’t want Meghan there,” and a friend of Meghan’s said the Duchess of Sussex “could sense she wasn’t wanted.””

A family source explained, “William ignored him. He clearly didn’t want to see his brother.”

“Harry was crushed,” a friend of Harry's told Scobie. “His relationship with the Queen was everything to him. She would have wanted him to know before it went out to the world. They could have waited just a little longer, it would have been nothing in the grand scheme of things, but no one respected that at all.”

@Serenster wow, that’s really wild re the photos of Diana. Now that’s a bit of a bombshell.

Reading those quotes, there seemed to have been no sense at all that the Queen's death was about anyone else but PH. No thought for his father, who's about to lose his mother AND take on the role he's been waiting and preparing for over decades; none for his brother whose life is going to change now he's moved up to first in line, or the grief that everyone's going to feel for losing a much loved matriarch - it's all 'But what about ME!!' wailing.

He really doesn't get that spouses of grandchildren really don't need to be at a very elderly persons death. The Queen wouldn't have been conscious at that point anyway. Her children were the important ones that day.

I agree @megletthesecond however in Harry’s world , the day wasn’t about HM and her DC , it was about him and his wife and their feelings.

Or an awareness that her death isn’t just a family matter either - as Head of state of the UK and various other countries, it’s a constitutional and governmental matter also.

I imagine that the family as a whole would have preferred to have been able to privately make it up to Balmoral to try and see her before she died. But the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition had to be informed, and as they were in the House of Commons, that meant the press immediately knew something was up, and started covering the family’s movements. And others needed to be briefed so they could be on standby for the mechanics of the death of a Monarch to be put in place.

Harry took advantage of that interest to have Omid tweet out that he and Meghan were both travelling to Balmoral, of course.

But the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition had to be informed, and as they were in the House of Commons, that meant the press immediately knew something was up, and started covering the family’s movements

OT but I was recently watching YT vids of the day HM died, and I have to give Starmer bonus points for gamely droning on while Rayner's scooting along the benches behind him and it's clear to everyone that something Really Big is breaking.

Harry took advantage of that interest to have Omid tweet out that he and Meghan were both travelling to Balmoral, of course

Yes, first thing they do is 'brief the press.'

It’s just delusional. Yes, after you mock your brother, his wife, their marriage, their difficult life experiences on international tv he won’t be so keen to reply to your “thoughtful” text messages.

TBF though, for Harry every day is about him and his wife and their feelings.

I've said this before, but it is all part of Harry's delusion belief that he was the Queen's favourite, and that only he had her best interests at heart. In his Today with Honda Kotb interview, when he had been in the USA for a couple of years, he talked about a trip back to London, checking in on her and making sure she was protected and had the right people around her. As if that was anything he could or needed to influence.

This stuff about the plane ride is more deflected guilt that, not only did he betray her in that interview with Oprah, and walk out on her and the family when both she and Philip were in their twilight years, but he also passed up the opportunity to see her and say a proper goodbye, preferring instead to go and lounge around on the French Riviera with Elton John. He's a massive narcissist, everything he does is justified, everything that happens to others is a slight on him.

"Harry was crushed,” a friend of Harry's told Scobie. “His relationship with the Queen was everything to him. She would have wanted him to know before it went out to the world."

"Everything to him", yet he couldn't find the time to visit her at Balmoral during what everyone could see was likely to be her last summer?

The official announcement that the Queen's health was giving cause for concern was reported by the BBC around lunchtime that day. Then or a little later it was reported that William was travelling to Scotland.

I'm not sure what time the message was passed to Liz Truss and Keir Starmer in the Commons, whether it was before or after the announcement on the BBC..

Exactly. It's sad to lose a grandparent but as an adult in this situation, you should be supporting your df who has lost his dm. Lots of people have members like H who use these occasional to find more grievances and will go on about it for years. They are best ignored.

The weather impacted them when they arrived in Aberdeen - they couldn't helicopter to Balmoral but had to drive (which takes longer). Don't think the weather impacted them leaving London though.