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The royal family

Omid Scobie's New Book - PART 2

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Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 27/11/2023 17:08

I'm not sure what is the correct etiquette for carrying on a thread, but here we are. Thanks to @BoxedandRibboned for the original thread.

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mrsmingleton · 30/11/2023 20:15

Maireas · 30/11/2023 19:46

It's almost as if Scobie didn't write it.

You know I was getting that feeling when I listened to him on This Morning. There was odd uses of words like editing, production, research and where he got his info from.

JSMill · 30/11/2023 20:17

Bookworm1111 · 30/11/2023 18:55

The pictures of William and Catherine arriving at the Albert Hall just now are interesting. He's holding her hand to help her out of the car and then keeps his hand on her back and arm, which he never normally does. Makes me think the slurs about her being nothing more a smiling show pony have hit home and William is feeing v. protective of her. She looks utterly stunning as well.

I would there is zero chance of William speaking to H ever again after what his wife has been put through.

AutumnCrow · 30/11/2023 20:20

If you on to the Harper Collins web page for Endgame you can download a sample from Chap 1, about the Queen's demise. It is absolutely execrable.

Lunde · 30/11/2023 20:24

JSMill · 30/11/2023 20:17

I would there is zero chance of William speaking to H ever again after what his wife has been put through.

Indeed - Harry and Meghan are toast as far as William and Kate are concerned

It must be awful for Kate to be out and under public scrutiny after these horrible accusations. The PPoW are putting on a united front and William is demonstrating his support for her

It is really strange that after Harry has made such a big deal about tabloid press hounding his mother that he seems content to do the same to his SIL - no public condemnation from Harry.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 30/11/2023 20:25

@thebellagio

I posted similar but with another take. Not during a friendly phone call, but the RF taking away their blackmail. If the names are out there then no longer have it as a bargaining chip.

willWillSmithsmith · 30/11/2023 20:28

Viviennemary · 30/11/2023 20:11

He is tripping himself up and looking ridiculous. This morning interviewer said to Scobie you said Kate was a Stepford wife. He said no I didn't. I said she was Stepford wife like. You couldn't make it up.

What an idiot. Did he think we all thought she might be an actual literal Stepford wife. Is he gaslighting everyone per chance!

GrouchyKiwi · 30/11/2023 20:29

Ooops. Wrong thread. Grin

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 30/11/2023 20:34

Some clever sleuth I follow may have a theory.

There was a tweeted press release in August 2022 from Scobie, saying he had sold the World English rights to his (as then) untitled book to Dey Street/Harper Collins UK&Commonwealth/Harper Collins US.

Publishers either buy World Rights or World English Rights. World rights means one publisher publishes all over the world and deals direct with local translations.

If the author sold only World English Rights to the above mentioned publisher, he held on to his foreign translation rights. He would be able to sell the foreign translation rights as separate transactions through his agent to local foreign language publishers. The foreign publishers would not have anything to do with the publisher with the World English rights - they would have their own individual deals through the author's agent.

So Harper Collins, the publisher of the English language version, would not have sent the manuscript to The Dutch publisher, Xander. OS's agent would have - sending whatever OS gave him to send as the final manuscript for translation. There's a possibility that the Dutch manuscript could have been different to the one sent to his English language publisher, because it was part of a completely separate transaction.

Scobie said in his interview on This Morning that his manuscript gets "licensed" to other publishers in foreign countries. That statement only makes sense if his agent is licensing the manuscript off one deal at a time to foreign language publishers. And that's where an old/different version of the manuscript potentially could have sneaked into the "pile" or file being licensed off.

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Raincloudsonasunnyday · 30/11/2023 20:34

Lunde · 30/11/2023 20:24

Indeed - Harry and Meghan are toast as far as William and Kate are concerned

It must be awful for Kate to be out and under public scrutiny after these horrible accusations. The PPoW are putting on a united front and William is demonstrating his support for her

It is really strange that after Harry has made such a big deal about tabloid press hounding his mother that he seems content to do the same to his SIL - no public condemnation from Harry.

Do you know, I bet Harry does actually mind how Kate’s being treated. I think he was genuinely fond of her pre-marriage. This racism row isn’t his (what with him being amongst the worst of the lot - don’t buy his “seeing of the light” for one second. He’s just doing what his wife says he needs to do for them to succeed in her world (ha, the irony)).

But I just can’t see how he can be publicly supportive of Kate, when his wife has been so publicly awful about her. I don’t think he’s got the necessary backbone or brains to tread the line between wife and sister-in-law/future Queen and keep them both happy.

If we do get a statement from him/them, you can bet Meghan will have extracted a heavy price from him for what she will consider her humiliation.

ArcaneWireless · 30/11/2023 20:42

It is really strange that after Harry has made such a big deal about tabloid press hounding his mother that he seems content to do the same to his SIL - no public condemnation from Harry.

I’m not sure if it is what was intended - although it seems that way.

It is absolutely cowardly of him to remain silent.

Maireas · 30/11/2023 20:46

Harry could so easily put a stop to this.
I don't think much of him, but I didn't think he was deliberately cruel.

Tezza1 · 30/11/2023 20:47

@mrsmingleton My memory for completely trivial things is acute: it's a bit of a worry.

mrsmingleton · 30/11/2023 20:55

AutumnCrow · 30/11/2023 20:20

If you on to the Harper Collins web page for Endgame you can download a sample from Chap 1, about the Queen's demise. It is absolutely execrable.

Gee whizz I've just read that - what a dreary read! It reads like a student who has been given the task of a 35,000 word project and is using as many words as possible to eke it out. I don't like all the sentences beginning with "and". I also don't like Princess Anne being quoted as it being an "honor" or his reference to "firing up bagpipes". Apart from that it's a load of facts that he has pulled from other sources. There is no writer's style showing at all - just blandness. At least he got the right description this time and realised Scotland is actually attached to England. 😂

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/11/2023 20:58

Harry could so easily put a stop to this.
I don't think much of him, but I didn't think he was deliberately cruel.

I'm not sure he could at this stage, it's taken on a life of its own. And anything he said to defend Kate would be seen as going against Meghan so that isn't going to happen.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/11/2023 21:00

Here's the link if you are trying to nod off.

Oh I wonder if it would work on menopausal insomnia?

mrsmingleton · 30/11/2023 21:03

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/11/2023 21:00

Here's the link if you are trying to nod off.

Oh I wonder if it would work on menopausal insomnia?

I don't think it would work with the menopausal rage 😉

CathyorClaire · 30/11/2023 21:07

Harry could so easily put a stop to this.
I don't think much of him, but I didn't think he was deliberately cruel.

I think the comments in the execrable 'Spare' he must have known would invite speculation as to his partner in a field (let's not forget Elizabeth Hurley had to rather humiliatingly deny it was her) and those on his disabled school matron prove the opposite.

That said I do think he could put a stop to it but he won't, hasn't and can't because his grubby prints are all over it.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/11/2023 21:10

I don't think it would work with the menopausal rage

Grin
BoohooWoohoo · 30/11/2023 21:12

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 30/11/2023 17:07

So in a further twist in the tale: Talk TV presenter, JJ Anisiobi (one of Piers Morgan's colleagues) has just said the royal racist is neither of the people named by PM!

He claims to have an impeccable source (someone who works with the Queen and who is friends with Charles) and has spoken with them today. He knows the name of the person. He says after Oprah was aired, all the royals were upset about being implicated, and for two or 3 weeks were talking amongst each other about who it could be. They pinpointed that one person asked a particular question. JJA does not know if the question was asked innocently or in a racist way - but he does know the person asking the question was neither Charles nor Catherine.

JJ is pretty anti royalist and really does not like the PoW, so he's not protecting her or Charles. He thinks OS has made up the second person.

I mean....wtf? I guess the RF may be feeding him a story to get the heat off C&C and discredit OS.

Edited

It’s interesting how many versions of the story have been retold.
Lady Colin Campbell says it’s Anne
Tom Bower said it’s Camilla
Sussex Squad thinks it’s William
(all before Endgame)

AuxArmesCitoyens · 30/11/2023 21:13

I'm a translator. It's pretty obvious to me that the Dutch etc versions were produced from an earluer, unedited versuon of the manuscript, there wouldn't have been enough time to work from the completed version and hit the deadline. The names were most likely taken out at the editing stage under legal guidance but they didn't pass ghe edits on to the foreign publishers. That would be a typical publishing balls up in my experience.

BoohooWoohoo · 30/11/2023 21:15

Correction Tom Bower said Charles and Camilla

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/11/2023 21:18

I'm a translator. It's pretty obvious to me that the Dutch etc versions were produced from an earluer, unedited versuon of the manuscript, there wouldn't have been enough time to work from the completed version and hit the deadline. The names were most likely taken out at the editing stage under legal guidance but they didn't pass ghe edits on to the foreign publishers. That would be a typical publishing balls up in my experience.

But OS claims that he 'never submitted a book containing the names' so is he lying?

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 30/11/2023 21:18

I can't see it matters now. The King and future Queen or The Queen and the Future King- doesn't matter which ones really they are all at the top of the RF tree.

Any lesser royals just wouldn't matter anymore.

StormzyinaTCup · 30/11/2023 21:21

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar yes, I have heard this too regarding the World rights and World English rights.

This isn't going to go away anytime soon for Scobie - I have 🍿🍿

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