Buckingham Palace denies claims Charles ‘might offer Harry a royal home’ in UK

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This story is curious. There are versions in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and Times as well. With Buckingham Palace emphatically denying it - Harry seems the likely source. Is he trying to force the RF to give him a permanent home in the UK?

Ordinarily, it would seem a reasonable enough thing to expect, but of course, things are no longer 'normal'. After Harry's disloyalty to both the family and the institution, it is a bit cheeky to expect to be given free home on royal property?

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/buckingham-palace-addresses-claims-it-b2417977.html

Ah, @wordler , the temptation to fit everyone into neatly-defined, caricatural boxes.

Entertaining, and perhaps some people do fit into these categories, but in my experience, life is and people are a lot more nuanced than that and many won't fit. And won't appreciate attempts to being force-fit! (not saying you're doing that in my case).

And going along with your 'teams' exercise, you've missed probably the biggest, Team DGAF...

It’s not just a bed he’s after is it. It will be an apartment and I doubt he travels alone. How big is his entourage are they all to be accommodated as well, do they all need to be close by. Do they all have security clearance to be staying in royal palaces.
I bet it’s all more complicated than making up a bed in the spare room.

Can you imagine. Charles entertaining a HOS at Windsor and Harry rocking up with his Netflix entourage

This reads like more excuses...

When one is the billionaire King of Great Britain with multiple residences all over the country and this is about lending a helping hand to your own son, where there's a will, there's a way.

Some posters seem keen to help limit the reputational damage King Charles is likely to be facing with myriad (slightly convoluted) excuses - no harm in doing so!

But the damage being done by this tit-for-tat behaviour is there for all, including the likes of Nadine Dorries in the Daily Mail, of all places, to see.

Well I would think that Team DGAF wouldn't bother commenting on the MN royal threads at all! LOL

However - a poster's opinion on the royal family and/or the Monarchy vs Republic debate are very relevant on these threads - it's not boxes we put people in it's a signpost on whether to engage with a poster's thread or posts - is it intended to be goady and cause a big escalating row or is it actually going to be an interesting thread that's worth taking part in.

There are some users who are so antagonistic that it's just not worth engaging at all, and then there are others who might have very different views on the topics that come up here but it's possible to have an interesting conversation.

For example @Roussette and I are (I think) on very different teams in terms of monarchy vs republic and also she's a lot more generous with her view of Harry's reported antics than I am but I still think we can manage to have a thought provoking debate with respect for each other's positions.

I’m a republician @TallerSally living in Ireland.

If I was KC I’d happily skip off into the sunset myself with a few choice property deeds, a selection of Tiaras, paintings and the contents of the coutts accounts.

We’ve had some rather rubbish Presidents and worse candidates/potential candidates. elections etc cost lots of money, and they all live a long time so lots of pensions so you’re not freeing up as much funds as ‘republic’ would like you believe. Would you have 1 president or would wales/Scotland/NI demand their own presidents

Would you sell the castles to the highest bidder and risk Putin or someone worse taking up residence or Trump turning them into a hotel.

If the U.K. became a republic, the most likely president is KC followed by Boris Johnson.

I find Harry’s behaviour rather childish personally but understand others may not.

Has he even hinted at that?

I don't think so

He was denied as he didn’t give notice ? That’s what Victoria Ward’s article said

I gave an hypothetical example of why this is important.

Dear lord, he's not a hard up teen, home from uni and making ends meet stacking shelves at Tesco. He's a 39 year old multi millionaire, who's been living his best life in another country and making it very clear that's where his present and future self wants to be. It doesn't matter how many castles King Charles has, he's not obligated to make up for his son not being willing to stick his hand in his pocket and do what every other rich, American, kidnap-able public person with an entourage does - pays for a suite at a high end hotel that accommodates all their staff and security.

I don't suppose it occurs to anyone that, whilst palace staff are security vetted, Harry turning up last minute expecting a 4 poster bed for the night and room service could turn up with anyone, and these anyones will be on palace property unvetted. It's pretty naive all round to think that this is going to happen.

It's pretty naive to think that Harry wouldn't consider that he just couldn't turn up with an entourage

As I said, excuses, schmexcuses.

As a parent, one always has the choice with a son who's rebelling against the way he feels he's been treated, by the family you've created, and by others. You can act with grace and forgiveness, and thereby attempt to convince the world that this son was wrong. Or you can engage in a bit of spiteful tit-for-tat, and convince the world that this son was right.

As I said, the reputational damage to King Charles is being done...

I don't think reputational damage is being done by this 'story' on a big enough scale to be of significance. I actually think considering Harry's current polling that it would be more damaging to Charles' reputation to be welcoming Harry back with open arms as if nothing has happened.

Charles is more concerned with his reputation than anything else. If he thought it would play well with the public to be the gracious father forgiving and forgetting and welcome the prodigal son back with fatted calf and an apartment in Kensington Palace then he'd do it in a heartbeat.

Now William - if gossip is to be believed is the one with a temper and capable of holding a grudge reputation be damned so, if he was the King banishing Harry to an uncomfortable life of Holiday Inns and Ramadas in the UK because he was still mad at him then I'd believe it.

If at any point Charles thinks it will make him look good to the UK public to welcome Harry back then he will do it. He seems to think at this point in time that it's better to look stoic and strong in the face of a difficult family situation.

When I’m travelling to stay with my mum, I ring in advance and confirm it’s okay I think it’s good manners ?

I have an aunt who likes to turn up without notice. She once sent her son to spend Christmas with my family. He rocked up on Christmas Eve to the door without telling anyone and my poor mum spent Christmas Eve afternoon chasing around trying to get him some gifts to open on Christmas Day.

My cousin’s a lovely guy but come on. If you rock up to peoples houses to stay without notice talleri I advise you to change your ways 🤣

My FiL turned up unannounced this afternoon because he wanted to get away from MiL and her visiting friends. Today is my day off. Completely ruined 😠😂

If facts there are to this story, you haven't got them.

Read the reports, notice WAS given

@wordler
He seems to think at this point in time that it's better to look stoic and strong in the face of a difficult family situation.

Good for him.

Time will tell if this is a miscalculation.

The public has already been asked to digest Camilla (and in essence to forget Diana). And the snatching away from Harry of security, funds, all manner of titles and Frogmore Cottage gifted by QE. Not sure if the right way to describe Charles is 'popular'. And now this.

Good luck to him!

@smilesy

Oh no, you poor thing. @

we had a family tragedy in the last six months and since I need a lot of down / solitary time so perhaps I have more sympathy with Charles

Having to be ‘on at events’ - you really need your down time

As I said, the reputational damage to King Charles is being done..

Well it depends on your point of view, doesn't it. Many people will think KC is perfectly justified to give Harry a wide berth, as a bitter and toxic relative who can't be trusted. Others will feel he is justified in not accommodating someone's last minute demands for free board and lodging, when they don't need it because they have plenty of money of their own to pay for their own. For them, his reputation is intact, if not enhanced.

If at any point Charles thinks it will make him look good to the UK public to welcome Harry back then he will do it. He seems to think at this point in time that it's better to look stoic and strong in the face of a difficult family situation.

This just sounds so wrong. So he’ll act like a father and grandfather if the PR suits him?

I’m getting a whiff of Thomas Markle.

I'm so sorry, I hope you are doing okay

You can probably get a deodorant for that.

I wager that that's the way reputational damage works.

It doesn't need to impact the opinion of everyone.

😂

Fortunately, I have a loving, loyal father.

Well quite. I am sure many people (including me) think that Meghan giving a similar wide berth to her odious family is a good thing for her to have done, a good bit of self preservation and avoiding unnecessary drama. Others think she's a heartless bitch to her poor ole papa and siblings. It just depends on your point of view.