Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

[beatan]

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

And how you found the way he has treated her?

She cut him off originally. It stems from her.

No no the interview was with Markle senior you see, Madeley not relevant so I think the Sussexes will know what he said despite 'not living here' or watching GMB live.

nah, he cut her off when she found out via tmz that he wouldn't be attending her wedding. then he descended into the most disgusting depths in his treatment of her, including liaising with youtubers who think her children don't exist, he will die without ever seeing her again, and never meeting his grandkids, and it will be what he fully deserves.

For those who don't know, not only does her Father trash her on TV, he also regularly appears on YouTube channels where the creators think his Grandchildren are dolls and don't exist, accuse her of being a prostitute/yacth girl and stealing from the RF. He is a deeply sick man.

Doubtful. They will rise above it and TM will enjoy the $$$$ he got for doing that interview
He was paid $60,000 for a GMB interview in 2018, could be more now?

I don’t think he can be that smart. What Harry did is not much better but H at least seems to be learning that emotional blackmail doesn’t work… TM has learned nothing lol, he will be at it for the rest of his life

The fact is we have 2 versions- TM’s and Meghan’s. I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle .
I do agree with PP , I have always been puzzled that Harry never met his future FIL before the wedding .

So the stuff they say about family, being better people, #being kind, reconciliation, rising above negativity is all lies? Who knew.

They are as bad as him. They won't see him, William won't see them.

The toxic cycle continues. Lovely. Round of applause for Harry.

Completely agree!

Harry said the relationship between he and the brother his SPACE.

The one contact he made with William was when he needed a flight to Balmoral as the Queen died. William blanked him (as he had every right to) but it was also William that reached out for the funeral walk about. Something both KP/BP tried to take credit for.

I know you're desperate to believe that Harry is wanting a relationship with William, Harry doesn't want to see him either.

No I don't think you can compare him threatening her via the press for access to her and her children.

That is not the same as them telling their side of a story that was well written about, including leaks from his family or their staff. They certainly never threatened them with more interviews if they don't get access to them! Or for any reason! How odd to think they are the same thing.

Again, Thomas is conspiring with racists, and people who simulate sex between her and her husband and post conspiracy theories about her children that he is demanding access to. It is absurd anyone compares the two things. Even after he set up pap shots she was trying to talk to him.

Baffling to see people try and equate the two.

I don’t think it’s particularly different: they’re both trying to control their families through threatening to carry on publicly humiliating them until they cave into their demands. I doubt the fact that before TM/H started there was a whole industry of writing stories about them would make their families feel much better when TM/H decided to join in. H should have known from his own experience that it just pushes people away further and that eventually they think “say what you like, I don’t care anymore” and it stops working all together. But he has at least learned faster than TM, who will never learn at this point.

they’re both trying to control their families through threatening to carry on publicly humiliating them until they cave into their demands.

This is not true though is it. It is what you think happened. I don't recall any such thing happening.

'Baffling to see people try and equate the two.'

Honestly.

Different details yes, different set of moans but the principle facts remain the same. Markle senior and the Sussexes have all spoken publicly about deeply private family matters causing a great deal of hurt.

Do I believe the various oversharers should be forgiven? Yes maybe. However no-one will ever trust any of them ever again. Chats would be restricted to the weather I'd imagine.

have all spoken publicly about deeply private family matters causing a great deal of hurt.

People are allowed to talk about their families and in Harrys case the treatment of his wife within that family. They are different because of their role in our society. But what someone does and says matters and the two are not comparable. Charles, Andrew, Fergie, Diana, they all did the same as Harry so unless you think thats also as bad as Thomas then the argument doesn't hold. Threatening and blackmailing for access to young children is not the same as telling your side of a story that is about you. I think it's odd to try and equate them but its obvious why you do it.

Once again I find it deplorable to gloss over the fact Meghan's family have been racist and her father is still in contact and doing interviews alongside them. even worse to compare that to them telling their side of an already written about series of events.

However no-one will ever trust any of them ever again.

Clearly Meghan and Harry don't trust them either, he knows they've leaked stories and during his court case others confirmed it. How else was all the petty nonsense about wedding dresses known? Meghan won't even come back to the Uk so I don't think she is begging for forgiveness from them!

Being accused of something doesn’t mean you did it. H has a scattergun strategy: he has accused quite a lot of people of leaking the same stories because he is trying to find out what sticks.

When a conversation take place between two people and it then features in the press and you haven't told them about it, it seems valid to question the other person in the conversation. Unless people think the press were still phone hacking in 2018, some of what was in the press around that time had to have come from William and Kate, somehow.

Are you saying TM didnt say he'd keep going on news programmes till Meghan gave in and saw him? (Blackmail. He did)

Are you saying he didn't carry on agreeing and socialising with Jr after his disgusting YouTube videos (he did. Agreeing with racists who skewer his daughter)

Are you saying he doesn't take $$$$$ to talk about his daughter (he does. Repeatedly)

Are you saying that despite not being in contact with 5 other GC, his life will only be complete if he sees Archie and Lilli? (True)

I could list more if you want

'People are allowed to talk about their families'

Well yes just not to the media about deeply personal issues that are obviously very one sided.

Harry should've realised what Markle did was not a good idea and does not win any popularity but nope he followed suit! We had chat show moans, reality show moans and book moans. Absolutely staggering his lack of awareness.

Oh I realise they tried to contact him, what I meant was it probably should have been done sooner and in person. Not sure texts quite cut it when you are trying to organise someone’s participation in a large event like a Royal Wedding. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not in any way excusing the fact that Markle has behaved like an arsehole, just saying that things probably weren’t handled well on either side from the start. He was supposed to be at the wedding after all. He was never disinvited was he? How awkward it would have been if he had turned up.

@smilesy
Court papers say they phoned as well. More than once. He didn't pick up

@smilesy yeah he was never uninvited. Maybe they 'should' have just gone to see him well beforehand but we don't know what happened between them to make any judgement IMO, they could have tried and he declined. She seemed to try really hard after the pap shots, and he wasn't responding or picking up the calls. I think it would of happened this way regardless, he just seems so easily manipulated.