Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

[beatan]

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

They're quarter Black children, who's father married a Black woman but before that presumably had something to do with bringing up not one, but two people so racist and toxic that their own children are estranged from them. This is why Thomas Markle doesn't see his other grandchildren, because Samantha's daughter at least, wants nothing to do with her racist mother, but Thomas does. I'm not sure about the sons children but he has chosen his two racist children dripping poison into his ear over his mixed race daughter and grandchildren. Tough if he dies without seeing them.

I don't know how people can write that the children will only know one blood family member? How would you know? She also has Meghan's niece that we know of, and we don't know either way about family on Doria's side. Harry has had his cousin Eugenie over and his Spencer family. I also don't think that blood family is necessarily essential as plenty of people have friends that are just as or closer than their blood relatives. I have loads of blood relatives and a lot of them are awful and I don't see them! I have friends I've known since I was 4 my kids call Aunty and Uncles. I am sure their kids are surrounded by people that love them, Uncle Tyler will no doubt be a great friend to them growing up :) I think they're fine.

I get your point but I think the same can be said about many abusive relationships - an abusive parent or an abusive partner can still love the person on the receiving end, but still seek to manipulate and control them. Explaining that there is an element of love underneath the abuse can almost seek to defend the behaviour (not that I’m saying that’s why you mean).

Am not saying he is blameless but this is my very amateur interpretation of what could have happened.
Obviously no one really knows what has been going on behind the scenes but I still think that if Harry had the manners to meet TM and got to know him the problems further along are more likely not to have happened.
Also once the engagement was announced ,did Megan and Harry ,the RF and their Pa people attempt to guide TM with security,protocol etc ? Why wasn’t he advised about wedding attire ?
Obviously being filmed picking his suit was not a wise decision but did he actually comprehend that people would find it so bad ? Was it originally humour led ,rather than realising it would cause embarrassment ?
Just think that so much shit could have been avoided if the above had happened 🤷‍♀️
I remember the Middletons were definitely guided and welcomed prior to K&W engagement!

What are you on about? Thomas arranged the pap shot via his daughter Samantha...he then lied about it when H&M begged him for the truth so they block it via the Palace.

As for being guided, he got the same instructions as Doria who managed to keep it together despite being scrutinised.

The only difference is that Thomas had his other kids in his ear.

Also once the engagement was announced ,did Megan and Harry ,the RF and their Pa people attempt to guide TM with security,protocol etc ? Why wasn’t he advised about wedding attire ?
yes they did, it was addressed on the series and I think Meghan was heartbroken about it all and acknowledged the media pressure, but she had to pull back when she realised Samantha was there. I think Thomas is unwell and easily manipulated but that doesn't excuse what he is still doing.

Yes I agree with that analysis. It is pretty clear that this is why Meghan doesn't have contact with her father anymore. He is trying to control her through the media rather than privately mend bridges. You can never excuse abuse with the argument that the person loves you.

Sorry just my opinion,didn’t know it was arranged. You obviously read more about it at the time ,no need to be so rude in your response!

The key word is try, Meghan does not live in the UK, I doubt she watches GMB or sees any of his soundbites. He is left to UK/Australian television to peddle his nonsense.

My bad, I follow it quite closely and forget that others don't.

As for being guided, he got the same instructions as Doria who managed to keep it together despite being scrutinised.

I agree that he has behaved like a complete tool, but equally I think it was strange that Harry and Meghan didn’t go and see him in person before the wedding. Wasn’t he supposed to be walking his daughter down the aisle, on TV in front of millions, in a country he doesn’t know and with the Royal Family present? That’s quite a big ask. He probably needed more instructions than Doria. It all seemed a bit haphazard and disorganised. That in no way excuses his bizarre and at times threatening behaviour, but it does seem to me he was set up to fail over the actual wedding 🤷‍♀️

If I was Meghan, or anyone in the public eye, I would try to avoid anything written or said about me. You can't control the narrative and it would drive me mad.

Considering how he responded after the staged photos to their attempts to come and get him early or send people to him, while we don't know for sure I can imagine he was the one being difficult about meeting Harry beforehand. I think there was something going on with him, I think he was struggling health wise and hiding away in Mexico. But this kind of stuff is his personal business and I don't feel entitled to answers about those details or what happened to their possibly once close relationship. She seems sad about it, he seems angry and vengeful.

Court papers reveal the extent H&M went to, to try and help him before the wedding. Texts between them. Begging and pleading with him to answer and to let them help him, begging him to stop going to the media, offers of sending the same security people he had met before to fly over to UK with him
He chose his path. $$$$

Why does he continue to do things so publicly, he must be deluded to think this is a way to repair a relationship. Quite frankly I don't blame her or Harry wanting to keep a level of distance away.

One of Meghan's friends who sold her out said she had to parent him at times, I'm sure there are deeper issues. Apparently he had shutters on his windows for a while, even before H&M started dating, Harry called him a complicated man, we'd never the details.

Exactly like Harry does his moaning publicly hence the rf keep a level of distance from him. It's so ironic.

'The key word is try, Meghan does not live in the UK, I doubt she watches GMB'

Oh think they do. Didn't they complain about Piers Morgan for doubting the varied recollections?

Piers nonsense was majorly carried by American online media due to the sheer size of OFCOM reports. I very much doubt that they caught it live

LMAO because these two situations are the same, Harry didn't respond to the coronation invite "in time" and they damn near lost their minds with the briefings.

Apart from being a deeply unpleasant man, he is clearly not well and I think then and now the media are exploiting him and that is also wrong.

I do not think any comparison can be made between Thomas threatening his daughter via the press simply for access to her and her children, and Meghan and Harry speaking about their treatment by the press and the royal institution. People may object to the level of detail Harry gives in his book about his life, but nobody is interested in Thomas' life story, they're just giving an unwell man a platform to threaten and harass his daughter in order to try and persuade her to see him- which clearly we and media know will only make matters worse so thats not really the objective is it.

I didn't say they watched it live? You implied they don't live here so won't know of her df's Harry style blabbing. I said they will do as they did indeed know about Morgans comments.

'I do not think any comparison '

Family members gossip publicly about private matters then expect reparations? Oh I think a direct comparison is absolutely appropriate.

Piers Morgan is well known in the US after his failed attempt to replace Larry King on CNN and his interviewing of death row prisoners
It would be known over there. Richard Madeley hardly so 🤣

Poor man. She's treated the father who brought her up in a cruel and heartless way. That's the Thanks she gives him. Mind you i wouldn't expect anything better from that self serving narcissistic pair. They don't care who they trample on