Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

[beatan]

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

You are digressing, skullbabe, since I think few posters (or people generally) would differentiate much between a cardiologist and a cardiothoracic surgeon. Either way, it’s a highly trained specialist doctor.

I always think this doesn’t really hold up when they only have 2 members exiling themselves in the past 100 years (and one of them was a Nazi lol) …the rest of them seem to get on like any family. You never hear of Zara vs Peter or Edward vs Anne beef.

Very wrong to edit your post so drastically.
I thought that the edit button was to be used for spelling mistakes, not to alter posts

the words 'insular' and 'stifling' were used by @derxa to describe small families, or 'wee families'. I question why the size of the family would mean it is then insular, or stifling. A larger family would be more inclined, especially one like the British royal family surrounded by people just like them, to be isolated and in a bubble of their own. Quite a few members of the family have described being in it as suffocating or similar, there are so many rules and expectations that they are demonstrably confined. The gilded cage phrase comes to mind. The words don't mean, ' hating ones family' or not getting on with them. there are downsides to large families, and downsides to small ones. You don't need a large one though and you can be happy yes, with a wee family. Sometimes it just works out that way and theres no reason to think of it as negative necessarily.

You are digressing, skullbabe,

Yup😬- the whole conversation was making my teeth itch but you're right - I'll give it a wide berth.

makes me lol that certain posters(or poster) insists that all TM's abusiveness stems from an operation they say he had.
I think Meghan is probably the only one who knows the truth about that. even if it is true. it might be a reason, but not an excuse. Meghan has done the right thing and gone nc with an abusive person,
@Roussette I was the same never new one set of grandparents they died long before I was born. second when I was under 10. we managed ok.

I’ve just caught up with the posts in this thread. It makes for uncomfortable reading.

Some questions:

Do you think it’s even appropriate or necessary to discuss Meghan’s relationship with her father? Is it in the public’s interest? By engaging with this thread, are we by extension contributing to the bullying, dehumanisation and humiliation of Meghan? Are we doing exactly what the Monarchy, ITV and GMB (tabloids and trolls) were hoping we’d do?

There’s a lot of good work that Meghan is involved with and her popularity is increasing globally. If last week has shown us anything, it’s that she is still highly influential and popular, especially with the younger generation (something that the royals lack). Are we being distracted by stunts designed to tear her down?

Just some things to think about.

Maybe ask the op what they hoped to achieve by bringing him up in the first place?

However, as they did start the thread then of course the relationship will be discussed and similarities inconveniently highlighted about how badly the Sussexes have treated the rf too. And no, Harold wasn't just telling his jolly life story he was sticking the knife in here, there and everywhere.

You're mixing up the vets popularity with the Sussex's. People so want the participants to succeed that I do believe you could've put Piers Morgan up there doing longwinded speeches and he'd have got a round of applause too.

I’m going believe my own eyes and take evidence over opinions and feelings.

You and I will always disagree and that’s ok. A back and forth isn’t needed. Let’s just politely leave it there.

James playing happy birthday to Harry on the bagpipes. Notice the crowds waiting outside for Harry and Meghan to emerge from the tent. Volunteers on the ground took plenty of footage to show this is what it was like wherever they went.

https://twitter.com/ArchewellBaby/status/1704172963761705139

It isn't necessary to inform me that you'll 'leave it there', just don't respond. I won't sulk promise.

I know it is tricky, there must come a point when when the most ardent supporters realise sticking the knife in publicly, revealing other people's personal details to the media is not ok. Whether you're a Markle or a Sussex.

Be more classy, take a leaf out of the RF's book.

Let’s just politely leave it there.
It was a suggestion. Nothing more, nothing less.

A question in all seriousness
was Meghan on good terms with her father just before meeting Harry

Apart from the unfortunate rather pathetic pictures what caused the immediate fall out around and after the wedding? - was it just the photos that caused meghan to cut ties - was this encouraged by Harry ?

im talking about the period between the wedding and the letter being released to the mail - I understand things got much worse after then and why

Be more classy, take a leaf out of the RF's book.

Are the royals classy? I think this would make a great thread. I’m sure this topic would generate some interesting discussions

Allegedly, Lockupyourbiscuits.

After she met Harry, Meghan spent Thanksgiving in 2016 with both her mother and father in a house in Los Angeles, that Harry had arranged for her to borrow (rumour has it that it was the Beckhams’ house, but who would know). Meghan posted about it on instagram, showing a photo of what was presumably Thomas’ hand passing food to Doria’s hand with the caption “"Giving thanks for so many things—including these two gems, who brought me into this world. Happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours”

LoL indeed! Sweaty's the classiest of them all... 😝

Er um,

Sorry @derxa to burst your bubble, but it is clear you did not read SPARE, because there is no talk in it of Harry saying he was aggrieved over the number of sausages he got.

I can tell you love your THE SUN newspaper though and your GBNews, because the anecdote was told to that fine journalist Dan Wootton by "Diana's rock" Paul Burrell (who is allowed, until Kingdom come, to make a career out of talking about Diana and her death, but her youngest son Harry apparently should have got over it by now and should shut up).

The interview about the sausages was then front page news in THE SUN, under the breathless headline: WHAT THE BUTLER SAW: HARRY ENVIED WILL'S SAUSAGE.

Hope that helps.

The whole thing is a bloody mess, if they all lived on your street you would probably avoid them. The lot of them would end up on Jeremy Kyle

Nah I'll stick to sausages thanks. Much more amusing

That’s the thing
The original fallout appears out of all proportion

without muddying with post letter fallout - that speaks for itself

what was so terrible about the pictures with the press to warrant the initial estrangement

very little it seems
all very strange if they were on ok terms prior to this

I would argue that it’s none of our business and it isn’t in the public’s interest to know.

Anyone else feel as though this thread is dehumanising Meghan?

Anyone else feel as though this thread is dehumanising Meghan? I really don't understand what you mean. Can you explain.

The propaganda is effective. This country wouldn’t be in the mess that it is in right now, if it wasn’t.

Absolutely! Luckily for us, the royals live in palaces so there’s no chance of us meeting them.

The Jerry Springer show would have been a better fit.

Absolutely!

I can't believe how patronising people are being. Of course people can comment on the tiny bit of the tip of the iceberg of Meghan's family dynamics that they're seeing (even though this is obviously heavily distorted to make Meghan look like Lucifer by the British media).

But to go on pontificating, pretending to be "in the know" about things for which there is zero verifiable evidence, and purporting to tell the woman what to do and that she should expose her children to harmful, toxic individuals, is beyond disrespectful.

Frankly I would laugh in the face of even a neighbour or work colleague coming to me to tell me how to manage my family relationships based on the little they may have seen or been told of by some spiteful hater (hopefully I don't have too many of those....).

But I'm sure Meghan's avidly listening to all the outpouring of advice she's getting on these boards, so keep it coming!