Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

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What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

@MrsMaxDeWinter Could we just agree to disagree? Your opinion is valid, so is mine.

It's simply too exhausting to keep correcting people who take my posts out of context or don't read them more carefully. My fault I'm sure as they are rather long.

I'm only indulging my interest in the royal family because I have an essay to write on court appointed deputies and the court of protection, mental capacity act etc etc, and it is as boring as fuck. Thomas and Meghan Markle are rapidly becoming as interesting as my essay.

What I do find amusing is the efforts of posters to bend over backwards to make out as though Thomas Markle is just this sweet, befuddled cuddly bear of a man whose personality changed after open heart surgery which he never had, is justified in all he's done, and is entitled to be in the life of the daughter he's trashed ... on a website where people shout GO NO CONTACT if a grandmother so much as holds a baby for too long, or stops by without calling first.

The jokes write themselves!

Time to take care of Daddy!

Very very different as most of the posts on here have illustrated

Well as always we'll have to agree to disagree.

Selling private stories to the media is the same though.

I hope you finish your essay @colourwheelofortune and hope you succeed, where it matters, to avoid the sort of contradictory and internally inconsistent statements you made in one paragraph, see comments above.

Best wishes to you.

I never said he should have access to the children.

Unfortunately for Meghan making speeches about kindness and family and forgiveness come across as hypocritical if she is showing none of this to the father who raised her.

These statements are contradictory. For Thomas to have access to the children she will need to have forgiven him.

Meghan has never given a speech about forgiveness. It is not a kindness to forgive someone who is a risk to you or your children if they have not done the work to atone for their actions. Thomas does not believe he has done anything wrong. He has not taken the steps necessary to get the outcome he appears to want.

Finally - Thomas was not the only parent responsible for raising her - you may not be aware that Meghan was part of a blended family and then a child of divorce. You will have seen the variety of parenting arrangements that happens in these families and there has been no suggestion that Thomas alone raised her(and Thomas, Samantha and Thomas Jr would absolutely be the first to talk about a sole custody arrangement). The shift in their relationship seems to have happened at the time that Meghan started in Suits because prior to her success there she seemed to have a good relationship with both her parent. Megan startThe same shift does not seem to have happened with her mother.

They entire Markle family are publicity and money hungry, PH and the RF are a cash cow for them all and it's open season - GMB v Oprah, Tabloids v Tatler, Finding Freedom v Diary of Princess Pushy and of course not forgetting court cases and further books on the horizon, they are all about making as much wonga/moolah/greenbacks as they can. It's all a very unedifying circus.

The RF have definately got the right idea and are giving the whole lot of them a wide berth.

Maybe Meghan still has a good relationship with her mother because she is not abusive

This.

I'm struggling to understand this. Open heart surgery which he never had? Did he claim to have had open heart surgery? For the uninitiated, heart attacks don't often require open heart surgery these days.

Prince Harry wrote an auto biography. Which means he wrote his own story. In it he discussed his relationships with various people - including his family. (I missed the gossip).

Thomas Markle is paid to say things on live television things about his daughter. The more humiliating and nasty the better.

I admire the constant efforts to have the equal but so far it is a fail from me.

Very well said.

My eyebrows are exhausted at most of these posts...

eh Nope!

One is a Prince of the Relm and therefore of legitimate interest - especially as the family of origin is shrouded in secrecy, and it is hard for the population at large to get a look behind the curtain.

The other is a person of no interest who saw a way to making easy, fast money by selling out his Black daughter on televison to the highest biddder.

I find it very hard to see any connection but I could be thick.

PH was paid an enormous amount of money to dish juicy info not just facts on the inner workings of the RF. We were treated to such delights as personal and disparaging comments about his bother, his father, his sister in law, his step mother, the matron at his boarding school and the poor woman he got his end away with in a field (before we even get to frozen todgers, dog bowls and broken necklaces). He sold his family's privacy to the highest bidder. Prince of the Realm yes, a person with class and who deserves respect well that's a big NO from me. TM sold out his daughter and PH sold out his family, they all do what they do for no other reason than money. The only difference is one gets to be a multimillionaire and live a luxurious life off the back of it and the other doesn't.

But this thread is just a rehash of many threads that have gone before on this subject. Most people can see it's a case of two cheeks of the same arse and others can't/won't. Cest le vie.

“Most people can see it's a case of two cheeks of the same arse and others can't/won't”

Spot on 🤣

PH was paid an enormous amount of money to dish juicy info not just facts on the inner workings of the RF

Just like those before him. Sarah Ferguson wrote a book all about how awful it was to be in the RF, the inner workings in massive detail, the men in grey, the Institution that broke her etc. Then followed up with an OW interview giving out a huge amount of detail about everything. And then a docuseries about her awful life in the RF. All for $$$$. I do hope you were just as outraged back then doubtful

Charles did the Dimbleby biography and talking about how dreadful his childhood was, his cold parents, his father who was harsh and hectoring, how he felt neglected and abandoned. Was that 'juicy info'?

He was very disparaging, unlike Harry who spoke with great warmth about his father.

And then we move on to TM and those that are saying it is just the same... give me a break! He is on every single news channel who will have him. Whether it be in GB or Australia... anywhere who will pay out. He blackmails his DD promising to do this monthly unless she sees him. He agrees with his son and daughter and their disgusting attacks on Meghan, be it blackface videos, big brother and slagging her off, numerous conspiracy theories, so much so SM was banned twice for spreading this and so on
Yes posters think it's the same. 🤣

I felt the same about SF, PC and Diana doing interviews at the time as I do H. It was all very sleazy and probably worse with Diana and Charles as each were competing in the court of public opinion. I thought it was very embarrassing. The RF have done the right thing this time by staying silent and not responding to anything.
As for TM, as I have no idea what his relationship was like with his dd before she met H, I'll stay on the fence about it. Personally, I don't know how you could stay away from your df after he had a stroke, but I'm just a big softie.

Harry who is already a multi millionaire has made even more millions by trashing his family and revealing personal stuff which may or may not be true. He caused the late Queen, his father and his brother an enormous amount of stress. No wonder they seem to want little to do with him and don't meet up.

@Roussette yes they did and I think the same about them and I have never said any different. Washing your dirty laundry in public is never a good look regardless of whether you are prince or pauper.

The choices are it’s either ok for everyone to do it or it’s not on for anyone to do it, there is no middle ground where it’s ok to cherry pick which family member can and which can’t depending on if you like them or not. That’s called trying to control the narrative and not a good way forward.

"But this thread is just a rehash of many threads that have gone before on this subject. Most people can see it's a case of two cheeks of the same arse and others can't/won't. Cest le vie."

Exactly.

And @Roussette I do feel exactly the same about Sarah Ferguson and both Charles and Diana. It was tawdry and demeaning for all of them. Airing your dirty laundry in public is wrong for everyone to do and I find all of it unedifying.

Interesting you don't think much of King Charles then. Given he did the same.

I, for one, do not think people should be gagged and should be allowed to speak out. Even Charles, and I am no RF fan. You can't polish a turd and what goes on within the RF is not all roses. As all these leaks from Charles, Sarah, Harry illustrates

I could easily stay away from a father who trashed me to the media on a very regular basis, who mixes and agrees with racists who do blackface on youtube, and a daughter who insists Meghan never had Archie and Lilli. But either used surrogates or the children are actors. Only yesterday she was demanding DNA tests or some such crap.

How on earth TM think he could build a relationship with Meghan I do not know

The RF have done the right thing staying silent says a poster. Ditto Meghan staying silent about TM.

You're not thick, its just logical. Harry has spoken and written about his whole life after decades of other people making money off him. He revealed all the not so pleasant things, because otherwise the media would. They have hacked his phones and made his entire life difficult. He, like thousands of other people, wrote an autobiography.
Thomas is of no interest personally, he's not talking about his whole life or explaining a historical event the whole world followed. He's doing interview after interview speaking only about his daughter and for the sole purpose to make her life worse. That he is working with racists and conspiracy theorists in order to do so makes it even more different. The motivations are different and their importance and relevance is different.

Thomas is harassing his daughter with the media's help. Harry has told his story after others have given their versions, including his family. The royal family only exist if they share their carefully curated life with the public. All the people on this board are following that carefully curated story quite happily. It appears its only a problem if someone is being more truthful and real when they do it.

So I am assuming the posters who think its wrong of Harry have never read an autobiography of any kind? Because to wrote one you have to talk about the other people in your life.

He can write about his life, it's the varied recollections, the personal attacks, the revealing personal info about others, suggesting the rf are racists <then denyimg he suggested it> that is the problem.

He hasn't just written an autobiography he has done reality shows, books, chat show appearances.

He throws the rf under the bus at every opportunity. Stop minimising.

I think there’s a difference between gagging people and thinking less of people who go around badmouthing others, in most cases including staff who have no ability or platform to defend themselves.