Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

[beatan]

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

Don't engage fine, there is no obligation to you know.

Harry hurting his fanily with varied recollections for Netflix payouts is no different ro TM hurting his family. They are both breaking trust and privacy so yes, they are the very same. Infact Harry worse tbh because TM seems frail and is possibly being manipulated. Mind, Haz possibly is too by his US sponsors.

They both feel aggrieved and are lashing out publicly. Awful for all concerned.

I remember that guy Meghan worked with in a movie, Simon Rex, who was offered $70,000 by a British tabloid to lie about his relationship with Meghan. He declined. That's what any decent person would do. Its a shame her father is not a decent person.

Oh yes I now remember that. He is on record giving details of that.
Her father would say or do anything for $$$$$. And has done

Why is he so obsessed with seeing Archie and Lilli when he has five GC he doesn't see? Especially as his daughter insists Archie and Lilli are surrogates or actors.

In 4 years Oprah, one book and one documentary about his experience in the main, and about his experience of being in the institution. The rest of the noise is generated by the huge cottage industry that has arisen around them- the newspaper columnists, Royal experts and commentators, the ' lip reading experts, body language experts, everyone who has met someone who once worked for the Royal Family who are making more money than they ever dreamed of out of this. The Royal Family arent a poor little innocent family. They are extremely piwerful. They can exempt themselves from legislation, keep their official documents secret with the help of the State, get away with extremely complicated tax arrangements that mean they dont pay even a fraction of what they should, keep their members out of prison and can manipulate the press to publish or cover up stories about them more or less at will. Their purpose is to keep the monarchy alive for as long as they possibly can. They are a family that need to keep a smokescreen around them to be able to do that. It's telling that the worst sin any of them could possibly have committed is telling everyone that the press have a relationship with the Royals and that courtiers are a massive pain in the arse and that his brother hit him. While Andrew is still in the bosom of his family, because he has kept his gob shut. That Kate has no problem sitting in a car happily grinning away and chatting to a man who probably had sex with a groomed teenager, but the ' hardest thing she ever had to do' was walk a metre away from her sister in law. Because the man who had sex with a groomed teenager somehow, inexplicably is not a threat to her and her childrens position, but a woman who is a bit too ' Hollywood' somehow, aposrently is.

I also have no idea why my post was deleted?
However I feel it is right to say that I have sympathy for Thomas Sr who clearly has mental health issues probably caused by emotional dysregulation relating to his heart attack and subsequent stroke. He appeared (according to meghan) to have a loving relationship with his daughter prior to his heart attack so this change in personality is likely mental health and health related. When people have mental health issues their actions become abnormal and they are easily manipulated and used. I think this is what is happening with the media and his immediate family.

Surely his daughter (M) should recognise his MH issues and show him some kindness, even if she feels no forgiveness? Isn't that the Christian thing to do? She is a millionaire. Maybe she should pay his substantial medical bills so he is not tempted by media money?

Of course what he and his first family are doing is unacceptable, but it was equally unacceptable what Meghan and Harry did to the queen and prince Phillip in their final months when they were ill and dying.

I for one am not going to condemn a man who is mentally unwell. If Meghan stepped in she could stop him being abused in the way he is by S and T Jr and the media, and provide him with some kind of safe haven. Shame too on GMTV for this interview.

As I said before, I'm out because the unpleasantness is very distasteful at a time when we are trying to understand and care for the mentally unwell.

PS. Is it not derailing a thread to start with the RF and Andrew whataboutery?

I asked the same question on another thread . Apparently it’s about context 🤷‍♀️

In 4 years Oprah, one book and one documentary about his experience in the main, and about his experience of being in the institution

Well said, the whole of your post @Angrycat2768
Some detractors on here talk like Harry has been on all the breakfast shows this morning. He hasn't said anything since the above you said.
Such a disappointment for some as they can only go over old ground repeatedly on and on, ad infinitum
I bet they'd love Harry to do a Thomas Markle so they don't have to regurgitate the old stuff

'In 4 years Oprah, one book and one documentary about his experience in the main, and about his experience of being in the institution.'

He founced 2020. So in 3yrs we had Oprah, a reality show/series on Netflix, his book, countless sour comments in many media interviews and chat show appearances. All pa attacks on his family. Stop minimising!

I mean we could say TM has only been on telly a few times, so what? but it is the content that is the issue not the actual time length of footage.

At least he hasn't written a gossip book. Yet.

Surely his daughter (M) should recognise his MH issues and show him some kindness, even if she feels no forgiveness? Isn't that the Christian thing to do? She is a millionaire. Maybe she should pay his substantial medical bills so he is not tempted by media money?

No. His mental health is no excuse for his behaviour. How do you know her faith? Why should she respond to blackmail? What’s to say that she does respond blackmail
by paying off his bills that he continues? How will her children be safe from him? I think I have set out a reasonable path for him to get the relationship he wants if that is indeed what he wants. He won’t and it’s not incumbent on Meghan to put herself in harms way for someone who is actively harming her. It’s not a kindness to someone with mental illness to enable bad behaviour. Again illness of the physical or mental type does not give anyone a pass for being awful.

Surely his daughter (M) should recognise his MH issues and show him some kindness, even if she feels no forgiveness? Isn't that the Christian thing to do? She is a millionaire. Maybe she should pay his substantial medical bills so he is not tempted by media money?

Thee part of the letter Thomas Markle kept back was Meghan refuting his claims that she refused to offer financial help.

People who watch Thomas Markle on mainstream TV would be shocked if you heard him on YouTube channels. He's really spiteful.

Samantha Markle hates her sister, according to her daughter and mother she has done so always. She has Daddy to herself now, and is unleashing him on her sister whenever Meghan has any kind of success. This in collusion with the UK media.

This is a five year targeted campaign of harassment. If he has mental health problems, whether arising from his alcoholism or not, that is for him to sort out. Hounding his daughter like she's a runaway slave, while praising the royals as he calls them is not going to bring her back. I suspect he has tried to contact her physically and is subject to a restraining order, like he is in another case.

He and his other children are horrible people, and I am sorry, you have to really hate Meghan to give them any credit.

He and his other children are horrible people, and I am sorry, you have to really hate Meghan to give them any credit.

Yes, absolutely.

He and his other children are horrible people, and I am sorry, you have to really hate Meghan to give them any credit

There are posters on these threads who will applaud anyone who hurts Meghan

I'd be done with him as well.

Disgusting.

'This is a five year targeted campaign of harassment. If he has mental health problems'

Again ditto Harold. Well, 4yrs.

Criticise them all or none at all! And yes it is the same just because different forms of personal attacks and comments are used does not mean one is a lovely 'life story' and the other is abuse and harassment.

I honestly think it's better to not give this man any time at all, he's harassing her through the media and I encourage everyone to ignore someone doing this to a woman. I wouldn't share this type of thing.

Interesting that there are calls for this to be ignored.

Yet it was suggested by some on other threads that it was ok to repeat the despicable remarks and links to other family members -when others said those too didn’t deserve the airtime and should be ignored. And they were shut down for saying so.

@queentim

He also stated publicly that he would testify against her in his other daughter's case. Instead of trying to calm things he douses the flames.

It's not even about his right to tell his story, which he does, of course.

It's how he has done it. It's the fact that he has, in every instance, been willing to side with those who attack his daughter. He could have given an interview to CNN, for instance but no, he chooses to go to the UK, where he does not live, because he knows the media has a vindictive agenda and given ammunition to those who make money by trashing Meghan, including questioning whether her kids exit.

Have you ever watched Colin Cambell or GBNews? That's who was bringing him to the Jubilee to confront Meghan!

And after all this he does not have the self reflection to see what he has done wrong, and he says he has done nothing wrong?

Three questions I will ask you @colourwheelofortune

If his health is so fragile, what not ask his other kids to help him. Samantha is paying a very expensive lawyer to sue Meghan, she seems rather flush.

Why does he want to see only these grandchildren and not the others he does not see?

And why should Meghan be concerned about his mental health when he publicly dismissed her mental health struggles, in his infamous interview with Piers Morgan?

Fathers don't own their kids.

No Thomas M hasn't behaved well at times. But Harry and Meghan are every bit as bad digging up past grievances and whining on to the media about how badly done by they are. They have a lot more to be thankful for than a sick old man.

I don't know what you're talking about.

It's how he has done it. It's the fact that he has, in every instance, been willing to side with those who attack his daughter.

And why should Meghan be concerned about his mental health when he publicly dismissed her mental health struggles, in his infamous interview with Piers Morgan?

Exactly. Some of the posters going to bat for Thomas Markel are the ones that dismiss Harry and Meghan's mental health too and most certainly don't excuse any behaviour they don't like because of it. This board has had many many comments about Harry being mentally unstable and damaged, how he should go get help instead of writing a book etc and yet its the complete opposite argument for Thomas. For Thomas, who is colluding with racists, Meghan must jeopardise her safety and that of her children, AND pay his expenses.

I really do not want to contribute to this thread further, but as @MrsMaxDeWinter has asked direct questions, I think its only polite to respond.

A mentally unstable person such as I believe Thomas markle to be will believe his family are helping him, without realising they are using them for their own agenda. Samantha and Jr are doing just that. They are truly vile people with no redeeming features. As for Samantha being flush I would say her lawyer is a typical no win no fee lawyer after the publicity.

I think the desire to see the grandchildren is a manifestation of his mental instability and have become a focus and obsession. Seeing the gcs is in no ones interest. He is obsessed with Meghan but always has been, seeing her as the perfect princess daughter and almost hero worshipping her. Spoiling her in the process throughout her childhood.

Anything TM says whether to P Morgan or any other media presenter, is just him being manipulated to say what they want him to say, and a manifestation of his mental ill health.

Heart surgery can cause multiple tiny strokes as it releases plaque into the brain in elderly people. When it hits the frontal lobes it can cause emotional dysregulation and disinhibition. I think this is what we are seeing and its ugly

TM is also incredibly naive and appears to be easily manipulated anyway. Caught up in the storm surrounding his daughter its likely he was as overwhelmed by the media interest as she was in the beginning. Pre Harry the relationship was solid according to them both. As a woman in her mid 30s Meghan would have recognised any childhood issues with the dad. She never expressed anything but praise until Harry came along. Make of that what you will. I simply don't know.

I don't know what you're talking about.

It is ok. I do.

It's all because he had a heart attack ...apparently

Abnormal???! People with mental health issues actions be one abnormal, that is so wrong and so offensive

Lots and lots of people have mental health issues and don't become abusive to their loved ones and millions have heart attacks without changing character