Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

[beatan]

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

Does anyone know what my thread detailing Thomas's many misdeeds was deleted?

I am really curious as to why there is so much minimising when it comes to this person, and so much exaggerating when it comes to Meghan and Harry.

So for instance that curtsey where she was mocking herself or that episode of Harry at school.

The outrage.

But Thomas hounds his daughter, sells her letter to a tabloid, testifies in favour of that tabloid, causes her such stress she believes her miscarriage was due to that, not to mention all the things that I mentioned, but have been deleted.

But no, it's about the curtsy, And the Ludgrove matron.

How dare they!

Does anyone know what my thread detailing Thomas's many misdeeds was deleted?

I wish I knew. It wasn't opinion. It was fact

@skullbabe

They have encircled him now, the brother has even moved to the same street as him. I suspect there have always been blended family dynamics and jealousies at play, esp. with Meghan being the first ever Markle to go to college Samantha went much later, as a mature student.

Here's a lovely picture of Doria and Meghan, there are not as many with Thomas after she left for college, just her wedding really. Think it may have been a difficult relationship that is now definitely not worth saving,

We always say here that how we see our parents shifts when we have our own children.

'His behaviour is of course, unacceptable, but it is no worse than what Meghan and Harry between them did to the queen and prince Phillip in the last months of their lives when they were sick and dying'

Exactly. The hurt and upset they cause in their last months was awful. At least they missed the horrific 'not hot woman with a crooked spine' gossip book.

Harry has made a career out of it.

No he hasn't. Simply untrue. A book about his life in which the largest section was about the army, an interview and a series. That's not a career.

Oprah. Reality shows. Trashy gossipy book deals focusing on his woes. Multi media interviews moaning.

He has indeed made a career out of it.

Racism and blackmail is not the same as telling your story. They said nothing derogatory or nasty about the Queen or Phillip- who himself has been racist multiple times. The late Queen wasn't a saint, despite some people thinking of her that way, and she made a lot of poor decisions which led to their leaving. What Meghan and Harry 'did' was simply not tolerate the abuse and mistreatment they were being subject to. That is not the same as what the Markle are doing.

Once again people are using someones age to excuse their abusive behaviours.

Oh I see the post listing what Thomas has done has been deleted but from the top of my head

• he has tried to blackmail Meghan several times
• he offered to testify against her in her case against the Daily Mail
• he has participated in shows and interviews which claim that his grandchildren either don’t exist, aren’t really Harry and Meghan’s or paid actors
• he has participated and engaged in events which claim his daughter was actually a sex worker
• has engaged with people who have been over the top racist against his own daughter
• has repeatedly claimed he wanted monetary recompense for feeding, clothing, housing and educating his child and using this to justify making money off his child by participating in paid interviews in media markets that are particularly hostile to his child (UK/Australia)

I wish him peace. He needs to accept that the way back will require a lot of work and effort on his part. But based on his interviews- it’s not apparent that he would be able to reflect enough to enact any changes.

Yes, because Harry writing from this perspective as an eleven year old is the same as all the things in my list including going to YouTube conspiracy chanels and speculating about whether his daughter was a prostitute and whether she had multiple abortions as a teenager.

No, an anecdote from a then 11 year old Harry tops that!

'They said nothing derogatory about the Queen'. Oh my siiiiiides. She was the head of the institution they were mocking and moaning about! I think she may have taken it personally.

Hmm but there wasn't any racism remember? They threw that one out, let the rf be slated then Harold <2 years later> denied they'd said it silly billies. It was the media not them! He does have form for varying his recollections though as we know.

The content of their pity parties is different but the principle is the same. Airing private family matters publicly is a massive breach of trust and privacy. They are the same.

They only spoke warmly about the Queen, no idea why that statement gets mocked.

Same as TM makes me 🤣😂

there are certain posters on here who will use anything to bash H&M with. even excusing racism and abuse
it would be funny if it wasn't so sad

@Samcro

They dismiss it because they share the same sentiments.

As for the Queen being mad as hell, her actions don't suggest she felt personally insulted. Why would she, they had nothing but praise for her and Philip, and made a point of saying it wasn't hem who had raised concerns about Archie's skin. After all, she invited them to the Jubilee, she did not cut them off or take away Frogmore like Charles later did.

And wasn't there slots of recent blather about how the Queen was at peace in her last year etc etc.

She was, according to her son, a cold and distant mother, but seems to have aged into a warmer person as a grandmother. She loved Harry and Meghan, and that's what most can't stand.

From what Ive read the Queen was very close to Harry. Sure she could've been exasperated with him, aren't we all with those close to us at times?
But this continued message that he killed them both off is laughable, bizarre and downright pathetic

I would say - if anyone did that - it's more likely to be her favourite disgraced son, who did far far more damage to the Monarchy than H&M and made us a laughing stock with his protestations on camera, and behaviour prior and after that

The post I wanted to respond to has been deleted but many of the same sentiments have run through the thread and I want to clarify something where it comes to Thomas - while it’s important to be empathetic and understanding towards individuals facing mental health struggles and emotional dysregulation, it's equally crucial to recognise that having such challenges doesn't justify hurting or mistreating others. It is also important to be empathetic to people who are facing life limiting illness but illness does not negate preceding bad behaviour and it serves no one to force the people who have been subject to the bad behaviour into relationships with or to forgive people who have hurt them.

'while it’s important to be empathetic and understanding towards individuals facing mental health struggles and emotional dysregulation, it's equally crucial to recognise that having such challenges doesn't justify hurting or mistreating others. '

Exactly. Someone should tell Harry this.

I would add that you can forgive abusers without wanting them around you or risking your children around them. I choose not to have an abusive family member around me or my children for our safety, but that doesn't mean I sit with hatred of them. Their age or physical health won't change my decision either, because the decision comes down to one of safety and care for myself but particularly my children.

I will once again point out that sharing your life story when it is already out there, is not the same as abusive harassing belabour and equating the two is really offensive.

I understand to some people Harry is a persona non grata - it serves no one to compare his behaviours and actions, regardless of whether you look favourably on them or not, to repeated blackmail attempts, repeated engagement in doubting the existence of your own grandchildren or that your child actually carried and gave birth to them and engaging with people who are actively racist against your own child.

I am also shocked by the (luckily few) posters claiming Thomas Markle should "not be denied his right" to see his grandchildren. He's threatened to "sue" Meghan and Harry, no doubt funded by the British media, rubbing their hands at the prospect.

Let him!

If family courts in the US are anything like the UK, the case will be decided based on the best interests of the children, Prince Archie and Princess Lili.

Now let's examine what arguments Thomas Markle and his children can put forward to persuade a judge to grant them access against the will of the children's parents. Let's also think about what safeguarding arguments Child Protective Services social workers will put forward, regarding the risks of exposing the children to Thomas Markle, Samantha Markle and Thomas Markle Junior, what they will likely say to these children and the impact this will have on them, what they will likely do with any pictures and videos taken, what they will say about these children in TV interviews, Thomas Markle's vile YouTube channel, Samantha Markle's next ridiculous book, their twitter posts etc etc.

It's a no-brainer: Thomas Markle isn't suing because it's obvious the only thing he'll end up with is a restraining order against him.

This isn't just about Meghan refusing him access. Any child protection professional or family court judge worth their salt can see that this would not be in the children's best interests.

'I will once again point out that sharing your life story when it is already out there, is not the same as abusive harassing belabour and equating the two is really offensive.'

Why are you minimising what he did? Told his life story? Oh well how odd that no one is speaking to him for 'telling his life story'.

He flounced when he wasn't allowed to call the shots. He was then driven with bitterness and resentment and lashed out with constant attacks against the rf. That is not telling one's life story.

Well said @TallerSally

The restraining order he would likely be served with can go with the one already out on him from a tabloid owner who TM has threatened
He tried to get it rescinded. Hasn't happened

@Janiie I don't share your opinions of what Harry did, but that you equate them and minimise the actions of racists and abusers is a sad and offensive thing to do. I am tired of replying to the same exact thing from you though so I shall not engage further.

The point is being made well that there is a difference between racism, abuse and threats, and telling your side of your life story that others have already been telling and making money from. Thankfully few posters are defending the indefensible behaviour from Thomas Markle and I can only hope the disgusting British media stop paying him to continue his harassment.

I remember that guy Meghan worked with in a movie, Simon Rex, who was offered $70,000 by a British tabloid to lie about his relationship with Meghan. He declined. That's what any decent person would do. Its a shame her father is not a decent person.