What does Prince harry mean by this in his speech at the Wellchild Awards?

[Mornusting]

"As you also probably know, she would have been the first person to insist that I still come to be with you all instead of going to her."

He is referring to the Queen.

Is he saying this is why he is not at Balmoral with the rest of the RF? Is this what he means by "going to her"?

They would have wanted that picture. The one of the Queen and Lili. I mean it have trumped everything and been the talking point. Of course they wanted it. It would have been realised as the first birthday picture of Lilibet. I never understood why they realised a picture. I mean they don’t for any other birthday. They’d obviously made a promise to realise one.

• I bring in other matters relevant to the overall theme I am discussing.

• You derail

• They are simply indulging in irrelevant whataboutery.

That’s how it goes, doesn’t it? No change from usual….

They probably wanted it, not just for Netflix but also for personal reasons, but I don’t think it was the end of the world for Netflix that they didn’t get it. I’m sure they probably wish they had one now that she’s gone, but not for Netflix.

Nice bit of conjugation there!!!

The statement IS a bit ambiguous.

It is not clear if he is talking about last year. 'my grandmother would have insisted I be here with you instead of going to her, (but I decided to go to her anyway hence why I had to cancel with you]' .

Or does he mean, this year, 'my grandmother would have insisted I be here with you, rather than marking her 1st anniversary elsewhere'.

I don't understand how that can be construed as being a criticism about Harry, but hey-ho, there you go, some may see it as an opportunity for criticism others may not !

Not for Netflix. To realise themselves. I’m sure they are sad. Maybe more so that there appeared to be at least yearly pictures with her oldest great grandchildren. A couple of those being released too (was it two). Which must sting a bit and probably made them think they had a right to realise there’s. Which of course is logical except for the fact the others where released in promotion of the family. And even if they had stayed they probably wouldn’t have been in those pictures anyone given 1. Covid and 2. Not liking balmoral.

I don’t think anyone criticised him. Zara had completions that week. Cancelled. People would have thought it strange if he was there.

Haven't read much of the thread, but I agree with posters that Harry's statement is a bit ambiguous. And (I feel) it's not being critical to observe and comment on that, nor is it unfair to discuss what he might have meant.

To me, it sounds like he is commenting on this year's appearance, rather than last year's (non) appearance. So he is saying 'my grandmother would be the first person to insist that I be at the well child event rather than attending another event elsewhere marking the anniversary of her death.'

I wonder (warning, speculation ahead) if this provides cover for him if he wasn't actually wanted anywhere near any members of the RF at this time.

This probably has been mentioned - apologies if so. But 17 pages is a lot to wade through when it seems much of it was off-topic.

Because if he was talking about last year, he would be basically saying that he decided (last year) to go against what his grandmother wanted when she was dying.

And that doesn't seem right. Either that it would happen or that he would admit it.

i hope this poster doesn't mind, but going to repost this post, maybe it will remind people what the charity is about.
its a shame that a poster with an agenda merailed this thread to such a point. was awful to posters like @MrsMaxDeWinter . there does see to be an agenda here.

I think it’s the reverse because he did actually go to visit Windsor chapel while he was here, and also the RF didn’t have one single event all together. I think he meant last year.

Pages 2-17 was the traditional ceremonial pile-on for threads about Prince Harry but I think it’s back on track now anyway. I am trying my best to sit on my hands and ignore personal comments this time. People can judge for themselves how well I am doing!

@secretpath

your paragraph "To me, it sounds like he is commenting on this year's appearance, rather than last year's (non) appearance. So he is saying 'my grandmother would be the first person to insist that I be at the well child event rather than attending another event elsewhere marking the anniversary of her death."

That was my interpretation of it when I read it. Almost like an excuse why he wasn't at Balmoral.

or conjecture even? After all most of the threads on here are exactly that !

But if he was referring to last year, why would he want to imply that he was going against his grandmother's preferences in not attending well-child?

He really needs a better speech writer (or speech checker if he prepares them himself) so that this sort of confusion doesn't happen. Because if he gets a reputation for being ambiguous or indecipherable, leaving audiences wondering what he meant (not honouring what he says were the Queen's wishes last year? Or a point about this year, and if so what was that point as the RF weren't together in the first place). He could have been considerably clearer!!

But why would he be in Balmoral? He went when he heard like his brother and the Queens children who weren't in Scotland. I mean come on. The other grandchildren came the next day.

Didn't William and Catherine do an event/appearance to remember the late Queen? Maybe Harry is trying to explain his absence from that.

He seemed pretty welcome at the Well Child Awards. You can't banish someone just because you don't like them 🙄

Why would he need to do that?

He came over specifically for this event. So he didn't really need to explain why he was there at all - no expectation that he would do any Royal public events, as he's no longer in that role. Nor does he need to explain when/whether he sees his family. Which makes that bit of his speech ring even more oddly

Yet again @Samcro

The posters who claim this thread is about Well Child studiously ignore @MopeAndGlory's lovely post which you kindly reshared!

It seems nothing good can be said about Harry.

And @Mornusting there was no event for him to attend at Balmoral so there was no need for him to give an excuse. He paid his respects to his grandmother the next day.

It's such a shame he wasn't involved with some other members of the RF but then that is the path he has chosen.

They were in Wales as per their titles.

@secretpath

Yes, indeed. William and Kate took a helicopter to Wales for a ten minute church service at which they were apparently the only attendees, followed by solemnly laying flowers in front of a picture of the Queen that sat on a chair, before helicoptering back home.

Perhaps that's the Royal Protocol, but I much preferred Charles and Camilla quietly attending an actual church service, and Harry quietly paying respects at St George's Chapel.

Both seemed more sincere and organic.

@MrsMaxDeWinter Harry with all the tourists there too?