One year into King Charles's reign, how do Britons feel about the monarchy?

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I'm pretty sure he does. His mother did.

Peregrine doesn't manage it at all. His son William does.

Happy to be corrected😁

I miss the Queen. KC looks tired and sad but William will be a great King.

In principle, I don't think we should have a Minarchy, but I think it's a moot point. There are many more important things that need changing constitutionally, and realistically, I think becoming a republic will not happen in my lifetime. Its more important to change our electoral system and reform the House of Lords. My objection to the Monachy is partly driven by the sycophants and forelock tuggers in authority who should be keeping unelected Heads of State in check but instead excuse and exonerate them and let them get away with whatever they like.
On a personal level, I think Charles is a decent chap who in the Princes Trust and his environmental work has done a lot as Prince of Wales. But he will only be King for so long. William will be the next King. A man who has achieved nothing but managing to get the press to buy into his environmentalism despite his having four fully staffed, lit and heated houses which he helicopters between, spending 6 months of the year on holiday and having a wife who thnks nothing of buying 10 identical coats in different colours and wearing them once. Both the Wales' are lazy. They will not be bringing up children who think they should do anyhing like a days work so we will be bankrolling all of them from birth to death to do some waving and pretending their leisure activities are 'work'.

Charles just doesn't seem as royal as the Queen did.

However, Debo did an excellent job of saving that house. Her book about it is really interesting.

@minipie youd be horrified/surprised depending on your point of view, at just how much the royals do interfere. It’s incredibly insidious.

Well, those of them who have studied estate management might have a bit of an idea. You don't seriously think Peregrine manages it personally, do you?

After World War II, the Labour government seriously considered nationalising some of Britain’s great houses - Chatsworth, Blenheim etc. not because they particularly wanted them but because they enjoyed the prospect of booting out the owners and confiscating their property.
However it was explained to them that these places are extremely time consuming and expensive to run and quite honestly it would save a lot of time and trouble to just let the owners get on with it - annoying as it may be.

"Peregrine doesn't manage it at all. His son William does."

I beg his pardon. But I am pretty sure he manages a large team of trained experts.

That's what's known as management. However William is responsible if things go wrong.

So? It's a huge estate, employing hundreds of people. It would be most peculiar if he didn't have help running it!

@Angrycat2768 the constitutional change required is massive but should be done together - if the Lords is abolished then
a hereditary monarchy is even more indefensible.

seafronty · Today 19:37
Hiya pal. I don't give a shit if I haven't answered your questions. Happy to help. Thanks

That doesn’t really surprise me as you don’t seem to have thought them through. However may I recommend a book called Splendour & Squalor: The Disgrace and Disintegration of Three Aristocratic Dynasties , by Marcus Scriven?
Its about some rich aristocratic families who lost everything thanks to the heir’s gambling, or extravagance or financial incompetence.
You’d thoroughly enjoy gloating.

Hiya pal. You are right. I do love to see royals absolutely battered. It's hilarious. Hey, remember we all had to pay for Andrews damages. That was fun eh. We were held responsible. Love it. You really love it. Thanks again. Happy to help.

NRTFT but I'm ambivalent.

They are just, there.

They’re basically the Kardashians in Tiaras these days. It’s absurd to live in a society where people like these ‘reign over us’ through an accident of birth. People we have to pay for, can’t vote for, and can’t replace. People to whom we are ‘subjects’ they get to pat on the head and patronise every now and again. They are the original victims and beneficiaries of the cult of celebrity - untold wealth and privilege while people are interested in little more than where they buy their knickers and why their hair is so shiny.

@Maireas "So? It's a huge estate, employing hundreds of people. It would be most peculiar if he didn't have help running it!"
Of course. But the suggestion was that these estates would collapse into rack and ruin without the aristocracy to tun them.....

I never said that. I think I could run Chatsworth very well, personally.

But the suggestion was that these estates would collapse into rack and ruin without the aristocracy to tun them.....

It would depend how they were run - Soviet style collective farming wasn’t a great success.
Re the owners running them - as the book I mentioned Splendour & Squalor shows, it only takes one wrong’un and 500 years of careful husbandry goes down the drain.
Most estates have trustees but there are ways round that for the most determined spendthrift
The National Trust has done a good job but don’t they now think the ‘mansion experience’ has had its day?
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Love the idea that there's nothing between feudal overlords and soviet collective farms!

I know in theory the monarch acts as a sort of “last resort” check and balance on the government. But frankly it’s been clear for a long time that the monarch won’t intervene ... The supposed “check and balance” from the monarch doesn’t exist. They know their own position is too precarious and relies on being non political

Quite; but like "Do you want them bicycling and in rags" it remains a useful thing to trot out, presumably in the hope others will be too unaware to rebut this

I didn’t say there wasn’t - I was referring to the poster that wanted all aristocrats’ property seized which sounded vaguely Soviet.

These properties are run in different ways - I mentioned the national trust who run the properties by committee as opposed to the owner running it.

Sometimes the owner will decide it’s not worth the hassle or can no longer afford it and sell up - more often than not to an overseas buyer who may or may not spend a lot of time at the property.

I feel like the monarchy died with the Queen. I hope William & Kate can revive it somewhat when Charles goes but it won't be the same ever again.

There’s nothing we can do about it, so how I feel doesn’t matter. If there was a referendum I would vote to get rid. But there isn’t and won’t be.